Eshnar wrote:He couldn't, because rules don't include this situation.
I know, so he didn't do anything wrong. Either re-write the rules(and you still won't be able to punish him then) or drop the fair play act.
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Eshnar wrote:He couldn't, because rules don't include this situation.
Ryo Hazuki wrote:horrible. boonen just the same guy as years before and this course is too hard for him. that's why he rode like a coward there were at least 3 guys stronger than boonen today and none of them won: sagan, ballan, pozzato
The Hitch wrote:Goss will woop boonens candy a[color="Black"]ss[/color] in a sprint he cares about, any day of the week
El Pistolero wrote:With Cancellara a deal with the officials was also struck. What's the difference? Same goes for the Vino case.
Or do you guys really think there aren't any "referees" during a cycling race?
If there was a deal the referee should've handled it better .
The Father of Clean Cycling, Christophe Bassons wrote:When I look at cycling today, I get the impression that history is repeating itself: riders who are supposed to be rouleurs are climbing passes at the front of the race, and those who are supposed to be climbers are riding time trials at more than 50 kilometres per hour.
The story is beginning again, just as it did 14 years ago
El Pistolero wrote:I know, so he didn't do anything wrong. Either re-write the rules(and you still won't be able to punish him then) or drop the fair play act.
A race that doesn't give an attacker the chance to finish it off alone is not a race anymore.
The Hitch wrote:this is hillarious, you know nothing about football (and i dont blame you, i dont really like it much either) but you cant resist pretending to be omniscient so you change every single thing mentioned in this thread into a cycling analogy.
Cycling is a chaotic sport where 25 teams and 180 riders are facing eachother at any 1 point and many points where things can be happening at once.
Football is beteen 2 teams with 1 focus point the ball and 1 central authority figure.
Can you understand the difference and the reason why you wont be able to win the argument by twisting everything into a totally unrelated sport with its own rules and systems and customs.
Cycling and football are about as distantly related as any 2 sports can be so your lectures on what happened to Cancellara or EBH or whoever the **** have 0 to do with Luis Adrianos behaviour in a the football game.
Ryo Hazuki wrote:horrible. boonen just the same guy as years before and this course is too hard for him. that's why he rode like a coward there were at least 3 guys stronger than boonen today and none of them won: sagan, ballan, pozzato
The Hitch wrote:Goss will woop boonens candy a[color="Black"]ss[/color] in a sprint he cares about, any day of the week
El Pistolero wrote:With Cancellara a deal with the officials was also struck. What's the difference? Same goes for the Vino case.
Or do you guys really think there aren't any "referees" during a cycling race?
If there was a deal the referee should've handled it better .
If what Luis did was against the rules then the referee should've taken action. He didn't, so what's the problem exactly? It's not like he didn't see it.
The Father of Clean Cycling, Christophe Bassons wrote:When I look at cycling today, I get the impression that history is repeating itself: riders who are supposed to be rouleurs are climbing passes at the front of the race, and those who are supposed to be climbers are riding time trials at more than 50 kilometres per hour.
The story is beginning again, just as it did 14 years ago
El Pistolero wrote:Uhm, read the topic: it's all about comparing the 2 sports. Whether or not you think that is possible I don't care. If you don't feel like comparing the 2 sports then get out of this thread and don't post?
What's the situation:
-Someone broke an oral agreement between teams and officials with no legal binding.
Yeah, that can never happen in cycling.
*cough* Vino *cough*
A race that doesn't give an attacker the chance to finish it off alone is not a race anymore.
Eshnar wrote:He won't be punished, indeed, as he didn't break any rule.
But we're talking of sportsmanship, not bad ruling.
Eshnar wrote:Did ALL the teams agree? If so, whoever broke the agreement is wrong. Quite straightforward.
Ryo Hazuki wrote:horrible. boonen just the same guy as years before and this course is too hard for him. that's why he rode like a coward there were at least 3 guys stronger than boonen today and none of them won: sagan, ballan, pozzato
The Hitch wrote:Goss will woop boonens candy a[color="Black"]ss[/color] in a sprint he cares about, any day of the week
El Pistolero wrote:In both situations they used the misfortune of their opponents to get a personal advantage. If you're cool with the Contador case you should also be cool with this otherwise you're acting like a hypocrite in my opinion.
All the riders that rode the Tour in 2007 signed a contract with ASO that they wouldn't take doping and pay their yearly salary if they get caught anyway. Some riders paid that prize, but Vino refused and took it to court. The contract was not legally binding and he didn't need to pay even though he agreed in the first place. Same situation as with this football player don't you think? Yet Hitch doesn't mind supporting Vino.
A race that doesn't give an attacker the chance to finish it off alone is not a race anymore.
El Pistolero wrote:Uhm, read the topic: it's all about comparing the 2 sports.
The Father of Clean Cycling, Christophe Bassons wrote:When I look at cycling today, I get the impression that history is repeating itself: riders who are supposed to be rouleurs are climbing passes at the front of the race, and those who are supposed to be climbers are riding time trials at more than 50 kilometres per hour.
The story is beginning again, just as it did 14 years ago
The Hitch wrote:No the thread is about 2 incidents. Thats Schlecks chain in 2010, not your grudge against Vino denying Gilbert 3rd place at 2010 lbl or ebh or any of that.
Ryo Hazuki wrote:horrible. boonen just the same guy as years before and this course is too hard for him. that's why he rode like a coward there were at least 3 guys stronger than boonen today and none of them won: sagan, ballan, pozzato
The Hitch wrote:Goss will woop boonens candy a[color="Black"]ss[/color] in a sprint he cares about, any day of the week
El Pistolero wrote: Where does it state I cannot use an analogy as an argument?
The Father of Clean Cycling, Christophe Bassons wrote:When I look at cycling today, I get the impression that history is repeating itself: riders who are supposed to be rouleurs are climbing passes at the front of the race, and those who are supposed to be climbers are riding time trials at more than 50 kilometres per hour.
The story is beginning again, just as it did 14 years ago
The Hitch wrote:Another difference between the 2 is that chaingate cost andy the tour. This goal probably didnt affect the outcome much in a game that wasnt even that important.
Yet there is such an outcry. Why? cos everyone can see it was messed up
You can use what you want, im just telling you that justifying what happened on Tuesday with "They attacked when Ebh took a **** in the Tour of Oman" doesn't make any sense.
The 2 incidents have no similarities.
Ryo Hazuki wrote:horrible. boonen just the same guy as years before and this course is too hard for him. that's why he rode like a coward there were at least 3 guys stronger than boonen today and none of them won: sagan, ballan, pozzato
The Hitch wrote:Goss will woop boonens candy a[color="Black"]ss[/color] in a sprint he cares about, any day of the week
silverrocket wrote:I think Adriano was wrong, but the other team deserved to be scored on anyway for delaying the game with such a pathetic "injury". Guy falls down in a crumpled heap like his face had been melted off with acid, game stops, guy jumps up and is back in the game like nothing happened.
Isn't THAT a violation of "fair play"?
That's almost as bad as intentionally crashing one's track bike just to get a chance to redo the start, when it is in the spirit of "fair play" that the re-start rule was ever devised.
Parrulo wrote:indeed, what i saw was a guy faking an injury to stop the game and maybe try to get one of the shaktar guys expelled for an aggression and then being but hurt because the other team didn't have any fair play. . . . honestly as much as i like football, the sport is filled with false fair play and hypocrisy.
Magnus wrote:But why should he try to stop the game? His team had the ball. And how can you tell he wasn't elbowed in solar plexus?
El Pistolero wrote:Not my problem they're fools.
Everyone with a little ounce of vision saw that he was going for the goal to score. They didn't even try to do anything, probably because they thought the referee would back them up, I call that being lazy. I've even read interviews that a player of the Danish team thought the Ukrainian team would give them a goal for free after this. Lmao. No wonder they lost.
Anyway, I really don't care about football because of all the faking that goes on to try and get the referee to hand out penalties, yellow cards or red cards. Just play ball and take a hit once in a while.
DominicDecoco wrote:This ignorance is baffling. There are no words.
Ryo Hazuki wrote:horrible. boonen just the same guy as years before and this course is too hard for him. that's why he rode like a coward there were at least 3 guys stronger than boonen today and none of them won: sagan, ballan, pozzato
The Hitch wrote:Goss will woop boonens candy a[color="Black"]ss[/color] in a sprint he cares about, any day of the week
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