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Strongest Contador?

Poll ended at 13 Mar 2013 21:47

Tour '07
15
15%
Tour '09
44
45%
Giro '11
21
22%
Waiting for tour '13 :D
17
18%
 
Total votes : 97

04 Dec 2012 06:22

SiAp1984 wrote:2009. All sources indicate that he will never ever be that strong again.


Ha ha :D
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04 Dec 2012 06:28

Stupid phone :D I wanted to vote for tour 09 but voted for il giro :o
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04 Dec 2012 07:27

Obviously the 2007 Tour. Those who saw Contador Galibier attack and PdB when probably the peloton was never going slower than 1750 w/h during the whole 16 km ascent — cannot not agree with it. The Peyresourde twin flight became a real top of impunity in all senses. Apotheosis of the era as it is. I thought very much about the Tour over the years. Anyway it was the most spectacular GT for the last 10-15 years. Back then it seemed to me guys like Sastre and Kloden simply missed their form seriously, but I don't think so. They were waay behind naturally perhaps because of doctors' missteps or something. To a great extent, VAM record is one big conventionality compared to 2007, considering Verbier stage was flat in fact. According to some reports, the riders rode Arrate even faster than Verbier or something very very close, so it is the 2007 Tour.

The difference was the biggest in the 2011 Giro surely, but we should take into consideration rivals' form. They were weak even by their own standarts, but Scarponi. Yeah, all that is subjective perception certainly. The thread is based on it, though.
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04 Dec 2012 07:39

Giro '11.
Difficult parcours, dominant from the start with a weak team.
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04 Dec 2012 08:19

I would say the 2007 TDF, that route was brutal- he had a close fought duel (with Rasmussen and Evans), he was impetuous and mentally strong.
The 2009 TDF and 2011 Giro he was great and the strongest but Andy was not a real challenge (even though he was really good in the mountains) and neither was Scarponi.

I hope he can be at his best in the 2013 TDF.

@Airstream: Kloden had crashed in 07, he came second to Cancellara in the prologue so it seemed like he had good form.
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04 Dec 2012 08:37

Klöden was supporting Vino, dropped back to help him up to Tignes, his race was effectively over from that point.
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04 Dec 2012 09:55

Ferminal wrote:Klöden was supporting Vino, dropped back to help him up to Tignes, his race was effectively over from that point.


But Klodi was overly strong in the Alps. I remember when he started pushing at Tignes after Savo dropped back. 30 second melted literally after first 500 m of Kloden's pull. By the way, he was a clear #favorite after the Alpes. :o
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04 Dec 2012 10:36

'O7 was probably some of his best climbing, but he didn't have the TTing he had in '09 and he therefore only narowly beat Evans and Leipheimer
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04 Dec 2012 10:44

2007 but that was a different time.

In 2009 he had one of the strongest teams ever seen in the sport so his team had the pace set as they liked all race. These conditions make optimum performance easier. What's telling is that he he was very dominant in the TT's as well as the mountains.

2011 Giro was the most impressive to watch, mainly because it was day after day of impressive mountain performances. Not sure he would of won by 6 minutes against an in form Andy Shleck though; lets face it an inform frank schleck would have been a better opponent than Nibali, Scarponi and the rest.

There are so many variables mention by everyone already in the discussion the only way to tell would be to get hold of the power numbers but for some reason I don't think we will;)
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04 Dec 2012 11:01

7th febuary.
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04 Dec 2012 11:08

Probably 2009, but since i'm a member of the contador gang i voted the last option. It's hard to compare 2009 to 2011, verbier had tailwind, while Etna was longer, flatter and had headwind. It took him like 3 km to get a minute after which Etna got flatter
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04 Dec 2012 12:43

greenedge wrote:@Airstream: Kloden had crashed in 07, he came second to Cancellara in the prologue so it seemed like he had good form.


The best rode Plateau de Beille by 1'10 faster than Armstrong and Basso in 2004. Seems like Klodi beat his 2004 time but lost more. I wouldn't say his form was bad.

Yeah, he even had fracture in his tail bone as far as I remember.
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04 Dec 2012 13:00

Libertine Seguros wrote:Giro 2011, because he didn't have a comically strong team, and the route wasn't so soft. It's easier to set a VAM record on Verbier after a flat stage than on a steeper climb after four other category 1 climbs or when you're so superior to everyone else you can afford to spend your energy on trying to find ways for your friends to get stages.


Why do the rider need a strong team, if he giggles at laughable tempo set by Lampre and catapults at a 4-5 % Etna section? IMO a team factor is a bit overrated when one is by far stronger than others.
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04 Dec 2012 13:42

giro 2011 by far
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04 Dec 2012 15:27

Zam_Olyas wrote:7th febuary.


What he said :eek:
"The second place is not good."
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04 Dec 2012 15:28

I hope Alberto can come close to tour 2009 or giro 2011 level or maybe even match it, i do not think it is impossible
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04 Dec 2012 18:35

I agree with airstream. 2007 was monstrous when you see what numbers Sastre, Evans and Levi were putting down, and getting their *** handed to them by Pistolero and Chicken.
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05 Dec 2012 01:15

I forgot that in '09 he had to beat half his own team and his manager...kinda like LeMond vs. The Badger....tough stuff.
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05 Dec 2012 06:31

will10 wrote:I agree with airstream. 2007 was monstrous when you see what numbers Sastre, Evans and Levi were putting down, and getting their *** handed to them by Pistolero and Chicken.


Right. We remember how Contador fired from behind transfused Boogerd who probably could easily get finish in top 10 if he hadn't worked for Rasmussen. While looking that stage, I thought Chicken had even more powerful engine but he just lacked spark to follow immediately. It seemed if the rules had allowed Rasmussen would have thrown his bike away, run and caught Contador. :(
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05 Dec 2012 09:24

will10 wrote:I agree with airstream. 2007 was monstrous when you see what numbers Sastre, Evans and Levi were putting down, and getting their *** handed to them by Pistolero and Chicken.


Right... career best performances from a number of high-profile riders, most notably Contador, Rasmussen, Evans and Leipheimer. Also maybe Sastre... that long-range attack in the Aubisque stage with tons of exposed false flat was very impressive, considering he didn't really "crack" and still finished in the top 5 overall.

And then to think it was considered a "weak" edition initially. :p
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