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2013 Speculation (and confirmation) thread - rider schedules and parcours

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01 Apr 2013 18:53

It's just strange that they have to go SO far for it, though Trentino has sponsored the Tour de Pologne for a while. Don't see why they can't do a circuit round Karpacz with the climbs there, or some of the routes near Bielsko-Biała like the Równica stage in 2010 that Dan Martin won, or a short steep uphill to the ski station above Szczyrk after Biały Krzyż. These wouldn't be as selective as the Italian stages, sure, but then if they made the final TT into Kraków on the usual 12km circuit from the closing sprint stages in recent years then it would be fine. I also think they could use some of the cobbled roads up in the north east of the country, near Olsztyn and Elbłąg, to make the first few stages less dull.

If they do need to go abroad, then there are quite a lot of options for mountain stages they could use. You could have a few climbs into Liberec and an MTF on Ještěd, a tough (last 8km at just under 8%) MTF at Zlaté Návrší, a stage over several Czech mountains could then return to Poland for a Karpacz finish, there's Červenohorské Sedlo, which isn't too bad a climb, but you could follow it immediately with the very difficult Dlouhé Stráně... there's Lysá Horá, and that's just the Czech Republic. There are a bunch of options in Slovakia as well, within a stage distance of Zakopane or Bukowina Tatrzańska, both of which are obviously on the route atm anyhow. Heck, down in the bottom corner of the country you could even go into the Ukraine.

The Tour de Pologne may not be the most prestigious or spectacular race, but it seems more than a bit surreal to have it jetting halfway across Europe for a couple of MTFs to spice it up. Sure, they have selectivity problems and the large amounts of the country are too flat to break things up unless the weather plays a role (or unless they find an old Plattenweg or Kopfsteinweg from the Peace Race days to use), but this just seems like using a sledgehammer to crack a nut.
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07 Apr 2013 00:04

Evans is riding both Trentino and Romandie before the Giro

at least that's what Cyclingfever says

he is given as starter in Fleche and LBL too (Fleche overlaps Trentino :rolleyes:)
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07 Apr 2013 00:07

pastronef wrote:Evans is riding both Trentino and Romandie before the Giro

at least that's what Cyclingfever says

he is given as starter in Fleche and LBL too (Fleche overlaps Trentino :rolleyes:)

Wow... 100 days of racing before the Tour?
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07 Apr 2013 01:12

pastronef wrote:Evans is riding both Trentino and Romandie before the Giro

at least that's what Cyclingfever says

he is given as starter in Fleche and LBL too (Fleche overlaps Trentino :rolleyes:)


That's not what he said reportedly. He said Trentino and then the Giro then the Tour.
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07 Apr 2013 05:27

movingtarget wrote:That's not what he said reportedly. He said Trentino and then the Giro then the Tour.


thanks. It looked a bit too much, trentino and romandie have just a 3-4 days break between them.
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07 Apr 2013 15:41

Does anyone know if profiles are available for Tour de Roandie.:confused:

Only two and a half weeks and there seems to be nothing on the homepage:confused::confused:
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07 Apr 2013 15:47

it's actually under 16 days before the start.

is Tony riding? :D
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07 Apr 2013 15:51

roundabout wrote:it's actually under 16 days before the start.

is Tony riding? :D


No, BR just really likes the tarmac in Romandie.
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07 Apr 2013 17:22

roundabout wrote:it's actually under 16 days before the start.

is Tony riding? :D


Yes, he is heduled to race it.
That's really poor organnisation.
Not providing profiles 16 days befor ethe race of the start is really weak. In the year 2013 it is actually quiet pathetic:mad:
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07 Apr 2013 21:06

More pathetic than the tarmac in the Vuelta? :D
Cancellara is like The Black Album. Really good but way overrated.
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08 Apr 2013 00:25

It's ok they have another week up their sleeve before they sink to ASO levels.
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08 Apr 2013 04:44

There will be an uphill prologue of about 7,5 km with ~300hm of climbing.

Two stages for the sprinters, one hilly stage.

Stage 4 is the only mountain stage and actually a hard one. Col des Mosses - Col de la Croix - Pas de Morgins - Col de la Croix.

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That's the last climb.

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The time trial is 18,6 km and total flat.
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08 Apr 2013 05:09

I think the Dauphine presentation (well, three profiles) is next week actually, so it might be close.
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08 Apr 2013 11:36

Lupetto wrote:There will be an uphill prologue of about 7,5 km with ~300hm of climbing.

Two stages for the sprinters, one hilly stage.

Stage 4 is the only mountain stage and actually a hard one. Col des Mosses - Col de la Croix - Pas de Morgins - Col de la Croix.

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That's the last climb.

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The time trial is 18,6 km and total flat.


Thanks a lot.

When you say a proglog with a climb of 300m.

Do you mean the climb has a distance of 300m or that 300 altitude meters have to be gained?:eek:
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08 Apr 2013 11:41

300m altitude from start to finish.

Most of that is in the final 2km though where they hit a couple of ramps.
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08 Apr 2013 11:46

Lupetto wrote:There will be an uphill prologue of about 7,5 km with ~300hm of climbing.

Two stages for the sprinters, one hilly stage.

Stage 4 is the only mountain stage and actually a hard one. Col des Mosses - Col de la Croix - Pas de Morgins - Col de la Croix.

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That's the last climb.

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The time trial is 18,6 km and total flat.


this stage is maybe to hard for Tony... he will be a good helper for Kwiat :D
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08 Apr 2013 11:47

Ferminal wrote:300m altitude from start to finish.

Most of that is in the final 2km though where they hit a couple of ramps.


:eek::eek:
Wow can't remeber anything like this in a prologe before.Sounds like prologe perefectly suited for punchy guys like JRod or Valverde:mad:
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08 Apr 2013 11:58

The rolling section isn't very technical though, so suits more a Froome/Porte who are good at both.
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12 Apr 2013 06:42

Romandie presentation 10am.
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12 Apr 2013 21:15

The 75th edition of Volta a Portugal will start in Lisboa with a prologue. Same route as in 2009.

The complete race will be presented in June. Any rumors so far?
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