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28 Dec 2012 12:46

element wrote:Where does this leave Uran? Leader for the Ardennes?


yes and he will do the tour I think.
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28 Dec 2012 12:50

SteelyDan wrote:It's funny cause it's true. :D Boonen used to care about Paris-Tours until a few years ago but this is the current Boonen in a nutshell. :p


Why change something that isn't broken?

Contador and Cancellara ride similar schedules every season as well.
Ryo Hazuki wrote:horrible. boonen just the same guy as years before and this course is too hard for him. that's why he rode like a coward there were at least 3 guys stronger than boonen today and none of them won: sagan, ballan, pozzato


The Hitch wrote:Goss will woop boonens candy a[color="Black"]ss[/color] in a sprint he cares about, any day of the week
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28 Dec 2012 13:17

El Pistolero wrote:Why change something that isn't broken?

Contador and Cancellara ride similar schedules every season as well.


lol. you again coming to the rescue of a fellow countrymen. have you every heard of relativating? :o
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28 Dec 2012 13:23

Ryo Hazuki wrote:lol. you again coming to the rescue of a fellow countrymen. have you every heard of relativating? :o


I don't think anyone has heard of that word Ryo. And I think everyone is tired of your same old arguments already, so if you got nothing to add just keep your mouth shut. Might save you a ban once in a while. ;)
Ryo Hazuki wrote:horrible. boonen just the same guy as years before and this course is too hard for him. that's why he rode like a coward there were at least 3 guys stronger than boonen today and none of them won: sagan, ballan, pozzato


The Hitch wrote:Goss will woop boonens candy a[color="Black"]ss[/color] in a sprint he cares about, any day of the week
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28 Dec 2012 13:32

ILovecycling wrote:yes,he is pretty awesome,and has good personality imo.I hope,one day, he will crush Tommeke and Canc in Roubaix(maybe 2014):cool:


impossible. maybe in 5 years or so when Canc and Boonen are past their prime/retired and he decides to focus on it.
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28 Dec 2012 13:47

El Pistolero wrote:Why change something that isn't broken?

Contador and Cancellara ride similar schedules every season as well.


Actually no. Cancellara will ride the giro next year and skip the tour.
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28 Dec 2012 13:48

Bushman wrote:Actually no. Cancellara will ride the giro next year and skip the tour.


Yeah, and Boonen rode Tour-Vuelta last year and no Grand Tour this year.

Thanks for proving a point.

;)
Ryo Hazuki wrote:horrible. boonen just the same guy as years before and this course is too hard for him. that's why he rode like a coward there were at least 3 guys stronger than boonen today and none of them won: sagan, ballan, pozzato


The Hitch wrote:Goss will woop boonens candy a[color="Black"]ss[/color] in a sprint he cares about, any day of the week
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28 Dec 2012 14:12

El Pistolero wrote:Yeah, and Boonen rode Tour-Vuelta last year and no Grand Tour this year.

Thanks for proving a point.

;)


You have the most annoying Signature btw...
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28 Dec 2012 17:26

Am I right in assuming that Guardini isn't riding the Giro considering that Nibali will be there for GC? The Tour profile suits him much better anyway.
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28 Dec 2012 17:45

JRanton wrote:Am I right in assuming that Guardini isn't riding the Giro considering that Nibali will be there for GC? The Tour profile suits him much better anyway.


Guardini will probably do the Tour.
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28 Dec 2012 19:53

Afrank wrote:Guardini will probably do the Tour.


With Fuglsang as the GC contender, Pretty sure Astana will devote some resources to have some sort of a train for Guardini.
He'll also need lot of support to get over the mountains.
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28 Dec 2012 20:07

the asian wrote:With Fuglsang as the GC contender, Pretty sure Astana will devote some resources to have some sort of a train for Guardini.
He'll also need lot of support to get over the mountains.


Guardini at TdF.
Not sure a full train will help him considering the likes of Argos, OPQS and Orica will bring almost 20 riders for the sprint trains. Instead Guradini should opt for 1 big guy who can place him in the finale and then hope to get a result.

Whether he can make the grupetto in the Tour we shall see.
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28 Dec 2012 20:17

Guardini is quick but his positioning is terrible. Gonna need a lot of help to be competitive at the Tour.
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28 Dec 2012 20:41

will10 wrote:Guardini is quick but his positioning is terrible. Gonna need a lot of help to be competitive at the Tour.


Would agree, but from memory I don't think Astana have any experience in setting up a sprint train. Can they implement one before TdF? Perhaps unlikely, so maybe they need to allocate one or two guys with a bit of muscles to get the young sprinter placed.

In any case I think the team and perhaps fans should keep expectations relatively low for now.
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28 Dec 2012 20:58

Agree, Astana don't have any specialized lead out men. Might have to rely on guys like Bozic, Guarnieri to help Guardini gain a good position.

Therefore, it's curious decision to start Guardini in the Tour. He certainly will need lot of help if he needs to be on the podium in a few stages and Astana don't have the men for it.
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28 Dec 2012 21:07

the asian wrote:Agree, Astana don't have any specialized lead out men. Might have to rely on guys like Bozic, Guarnieri to help Guardini gain a good position.

Therefore, it's curious decision to start Guardini in the Tour. He certainly will need lot of help if he needs to be on the podium in a few stages and Astana don't have the men for it.


Starting the tour.

Well, the Giro parcours gives him very few opportunities and Astana needs to be 100% focused on Nibali's GC chance. TdF may actually be the best GT for getting some experience for the sprinter (maybe 8-10 flat stages) while Fuglsang tries to latch onto the Sky train. Vuelta may not have many flat stages (guessing).
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28 Dec 2012 21:24

The Giro parcours is terrible for Guardini. I can only see 3, maybe 4 stages where he'd get a chance to sprint. One of them is the last stage and it's doubtful if he'll make it through the mountains.
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28 Dec 2012 21:38

Vino 4ever
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28 Dec 2012 21:40

I would have preferred Guardini not to ride any GT at all and focus on smaller races where he has a better chance of winning but I guess Guardini moved to astana to ride more WT races.
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28 Dec 2012 21:42



so Vino is starting to clean things up? Hilarious.
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