Parrulo wrote:i have to agree with ryo's last 2 posts. quintana might not have been the second best but he was in the group of the second best riders. which is much more then anything pinot has ever shown on a classic.
and gilbert could have definitively contend for the win had he not crashed. after the muro there was still 50k of racing left with only 2 climbs and 1 of those suited gilbert to perfection, so saying he was out of contention for being dropped on the muro, where he didn't even lose that much time, is a bit of a stretch imo.
and quintana could very well win a lbl in the future, he will probably have to do it the same way schleck did in 09 or nibali tried this year but it is possible. hell if not for a super strong astana and iglinsky on what very likely will be the best performance of his career nibali would have done it and it would have been the second time in 4 years some1 won solo all the way from the Roche aux faucons.
Be careful Parrulo, theyoungest might call you a Calimero any time soon now.
And yeah Quintana could very well win LBL in the future, but I can say the same about every promising young rider(that can climb of course). Cycling is unpredictable in that regard. I was actually having some fun with Ryo because I remember he said Lombardia was too hard for Phil last year as well because he only got 8th. He also completely ignored the fact that Phil had already reacted on an attack of Nibali, so only looked at the result. I call that hypocrisy.
And that's even ignoring the obvious: Phil was no longer in top shape and only rode Lombardia to win the WT for himself and the team. It's all in his book.
But my real point is: descending is also very important in Lombardia, so just because someone is slightly less good on the Muro di Sormano doesn't mean he's overall worse at the race than let's say Quintana. And like you said, the final hills suited a rider like Gilbert better than the Muro di Sormano. I like to compare the Sormano to the Koppenberg of the Ronde van Vlaanderen: too far from the finish to decide the winner, but you can definitely lose the race on them(for example Cancellara in '09). However, Gilbert wasn't far back at all and had already caught and dropped everyone on the descent. But whatever, they're allowed to think what ever the hell they want. I'd rather see Phil win LBL, the WC or the Ronde van Vlaanderen anyway.