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29 Mar 2013 11:05

I forgot to add that it takes place from the 27th July to the 3rd August, so there will be a rest day after stage 2 (I think). It's a week after the Tour.
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29 Mar 2013 11:12

So Pologne scrapped 2 of it's sprint stages and replaced them with a tt and a hilly stage extra. Good
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29 Mar 2013 11:13

Rest day in a 7-stage race. Yeah.
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29 Mar 2013 11:14

Dekker_Tifosi wrote:So Pologne scrapped 2 of it's sprint stages and replaced them with a tt and a hilly stage extra. Good

And the fact that there's two MTFs.
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29 Mar 2013 11:18

Ferminal wrote:Yep, I thought it was going to be pretty ugly if as usual there was no TT, but a 37km ITT is perfect.

Such a long ITT is way too long for a 2nd tier World Tour stage race.
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29 Mar 2013 11:20

janraaskalt wrote:Such a long ITT is way too long for a 2nd tier World Tour stage race.

That amongst other selective stages has Pordoi as MTF?
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29 Mar 2013 11:21

Poor Argos, Dumoulin could pull off a top-5 though.

janraaskalt wrote:Such a long ITT is way too long for a 2nd tier World Tour stage race.


Not when there are three hard uphill finishes... There is plenty of opportunity for climbers to win time.
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29 Mar 2013 11:23

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29 Mar 2013 11:30

Strong dislike for the Poland route.

If you start in another country, you don't let the other country dominate the nature of the route. The Poland bit of this route will now be utterly incidental, after the Lord Mayors, a waste of time.
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29 Mar 2013 11:30

It's ok, Tony wouldn't make it through Pampeago.
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29 Mar 2013 11:51

Exciting route for TdP, but tearing down all the borders for these 1 week races seems the wrong development.

I wanna see more of Poland dammit.
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29 Mar 2013 12:34

Trust me, most of Poland is not that interesting.
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29 Mar 2013 12:48

roundabout wrote:Trust me, most of Poland is not that interesting.


maybe so, but surely they can find 7 stages of interest (roads or surroundings) in that vast country.


Anyway the racing is likely to be good. Sort of parcours one would generate on a computer perhaps.
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29 Mar 2013 13:31

Dazed and Confused wrote:maybe so, but surely they can find 7 stages of interest (roads or surroundings) in that vast country.


Anyway the racing is likely to be good. Sort of parcours one would generate on a computer perhaps.


Libertine seguros found some good climbs that would make the race great. The good stages have to take place in the south but like past years they can start in the centre of the country and do 3 sprinters stages before the medium mountains. I thought that was a great formula. Even better if they make the Warsaw stage a prologue. Or they could add 1 or 2 of the small cobbled climbs into the circuits in Warsaw and Krakow.

Was a nice little race. Especially since there's no single mtf to tear the race apart so they need to rely more on an ardennes formula.

now it's a bit stupid. half of me hopes Evans wins so tthey have to start next year in Australia.
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29 Mar 2013 13:41

WTF? Tour of Poland starting in Italy. Is it a tribute to Moser or is RCS involved in the organization?

Route is much tougher, probably a tad too excessive. With the introduction of the ITT, the nature of the race is altered. Perhaps they are hoping for a Kwiatowski victory. Length of the ITT is too much despite the 2 MTFs. around 25 KM would have been ideal.
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29 Mar 2013 13:52

The Hitch wrote:Libertine seguros found some good climbs that would make the race great. The good stages have to take place in the south but like past years they can start in the centre of the country and do 3 sprinters stages before the medium mountains. I thought that was a great formula. Even better if they make the Warsaw stage a prologue. Or they could add 1 or 2 of the small cobbled climbs into the circuits in Warsaw and Krakow.

Was a nice little race. Especially since there's no single mtf to tear the race apart so they need to rely more on an ardennes formula.

now it's a bit stupid. half of me hopes Evans wins so tthey have to start next year in Australia.


stage 1 can go up this somehow:

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29 Mar 2013 13:55

Dazed and Confused wrote:stage 1 can go up this somehow:

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What's wrong with good old Willunga Hill?
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29 Mar 2013 13:59

Les étapes :
24/08 - Prologue : Louhans - Louhans (5,1 km)
25/08 - Et. 1 : Louhans - Arbois (146 km)
26/08 - Et. 2 : Champagnole - Saint Vulbas (162 km)
27/08 - Et. 3 : Aix-les-Bains - Albertville (127 km)
28/08 - Et. 4 : Albertville - Saint-François Longchamp (106 km)
29/08 - Et. 5 : Saint-Gervais - Morzine (79 km)
30/08 - Et. 6 : Morzine - Châtel (126 km)
31/08 - Et. 7 : Châtel - Plateau des Glières (134 km)

http://www.directvelo.com/actualite/25102-tour-de-l-avenir-le-parcours-2013.html

What's with the short stages? Gotta be scared of the 80km stage featuring Les Gets.
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29 Mar 2013 14:12

theyoungest wrote:What's wrong with good old Willunga Hill?


Nothing, but since we appear to be going for landmarks why not go all in?
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29 Mar 2013 14:26

Ferminal wrote:Les étapes :
24/08 - Prologue : Louhans - Louhans (5,1 km)
25/08 - Et. 1 : Louhans - Arbois (146 km)
26/08 - Et. 2 : Champagnole - Saint Vulbas (162 km)
27/08 - Et. 3 : Aix-les-Bains - Albertville (127 km)
28/08 - Et. 4 : Albertville - Saint-François Longchamp (106 km)
29/08 - Et. 5 : Saint-Gervais - Morzine (79 km)
30/08 - Et. 6 : Morzine - Châtel (126 km)
31/08 - Et. 7 : Châtel - Plateau des Glières (134 km)

http://www.directvelo.com/actualite/25102-tour-de-l-avenir-le-parcours-2013.html

What's with the short stages? Gotta be scared of the 80km stage featuring Les Gets.


They seem to cram a lot of stages into a small area.

And too bad that they are scared of the gravel. They should have climbed Glieres from the other side.
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