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The most spetacular hunger knocks

06 Dec 2012 15:06

the "hunger knock" is the equivalent of an UFO sighting in cycling, many are reported but very few are true (never let reality get in the way of a good metaphor :p)

so what were the best ones of the recent past?

from the top of my head i can think of contador in PN, link to the full stage where contador had his famous hunger knock:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ultWwXzhmq8

iirc landis also had an hunger knock but i am not sure.

btw proving video reference would be cool
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06 Dec 2012 15:33

He Who Must Not Be Named outside the clinic on the Joux Plan
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06 Dec 2012 15:37

Take the thread to the clinic. But how should a mod know?

The first example (Contador) says it all. :rolleyes:
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06 Dec 2012 15:44

Bye Bye Bicycle wrote:Take the thread to the clinic. But how should a mod know?

The first example (Contador) says it all. :rolleyes:

Sure, some hunger knocks might be caused by clinic-matters, but most of them are real. It can happen to anyone; it's not that easy to keep eating disgusting sugar-bars for several hours...forget to eat in a hour or two and ****, you're completely empty, cramping up and can barely turn the pedals around.
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06 Dec 2012 15:53

Jan Ullrich
Galibier/ Les Deux Alps 1998
Pla D'Adet 2005
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06 Dec 2012 15:53

pajaron is one of my favourite words in spanish :) .sound great if it doesn't happen to you
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06 Dec 2012 15:54

maltiv wrote:Sure, some hunger knocks might be caused by clinic-matters, but most of them are real. It can happen to anyone; it's not that easy to keep eating disgusting sugar-bars for several hours...forget to eat in a hour or two and ****, you're completely empty, cramping up and can barely turn the pedals around.


indeed, for some everything that happens in cycling is clinic related. . . . i am pretty sure contador hunger knock at PN wasn't the result of anything clinic related but the result of him being constantly attacked over 30 or so km's and since he was alone and had to defend himself he forgot to eat during that time.

ofc it's much easier to instead of watching the race just looking at the results spot something strange and scream " he injected his dog's blood bag by mistake the previous night"

anyway out with the clinic stuff, and in with the proper discussion.

jan's on les deux alpes is indeed one we shouldn't forget, once again just like contador he was isolated and panicked.
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06 Dec 2012 15:56

Bavarianrider wrote:Jan Ullrich
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c'mon pla d'adet no way is a hunger knock. he pushed his limits way too much on val louron earlier to stay with basso and lance and on the last climb he paid for it. but he went very good that day. far from pajaron
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06 Dec 2012 15:57

no idea if it was hunger knock or if he was sick or something like that, but the images are spectacular

Stijn Devolder / Vuelta a Espana 2011 - Stage 3: Alto de la Santa (Cat. 3)
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06 Dec 2012 15:59

btw link for the full coverage of the les deux alpes stage:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPGWF2gHCSY
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06 Dec 2012 16:00

jens_attacks wrote:c'mon pla d'adet no way is a hunger knock. he pushed his limits way too much on val louron earlier to stay with basso and lance and on the last climb he paid for it. but he went very good that day. far from pajaron


It was a hunger knock, Ulle said it himself.
As he had to push hard to stay with Basso and Armstrong he forgot to eat enough. He then totally bonked in the last km of Pla d'a Det.
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06 Dec 2012 16:02

search wrote:no idea if it was hunger knock or if he was sick or something like that, but the images are spectacular

Stijn Devolder / Vuelta a Espana 2011 - Stage 3: Alto de la Santa (Cat. 3)


looks like a bit of both + a big part of acting to be honest :o

was tarammae on xorret de cati an hunger knock or did he just cracked spectacularly? he had to stop half way up the climb didn't he?
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06 Dec 2012 16:06

Parrulo wrote:looks like a bit of both + a big part of acting to be honest :o

was tarammae on xorret de cati an hunger knock or did he just cracked spectacularly? he had to stop half way up the climb didn't he?

I reckon that was just normal cracking; he clearly underestimated the climb and paid for it as it became steeper and steeper. I mean 5 minutes earlier he was dropping everyone...hunger knocks happen fast, but not that fast ;)
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06 Dec 2012 16:10

Bavarianrider wrote:It was a hunger knock, Ulle said it himself.


Ah, now I'm convinced. :rolleyes:

In my eyes that's all pure speculation. A lot of those "hunger knocks" are as likely cheap excuses for clinic stuff - or bad preparation (in a non-medical sense). But of course riders/d.s. will always claim that it was a "hunger knock".

Ullrich's "hunger knocks" have always had psychic components.

Also simply being isolated doesn't result in "hunger knocks".

And Xorret de Cati is just a terribly hard climb. Fabio Roscioli in 1999 sucked even worse than Taaramae and nearly rode backwards. That was some of the strangest things I've ever seen in cycling.
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06 Dec 2012 16:13

are you going to drop the clinic talk or do you prefer to get a warning?

anyway

to be honest i don't remember what stage of the vuelta it was, i remember watching it live and it was commented here on forum on the race thread where people mocked him, as per usual with devolder, but i don't recall what climb it was nor the race situation :o
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06 Dec 2012 16:16

yep roscioli on cati is dramatic
check it here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=t2ITVBgS9f8#t=576s

to lose 6 minutes in 3 km...painful

alex zulle on montecampione day and landis medical trouble are also spectacular.
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06 Dec 2012 16:34

jens_attacks wrote:yep roscioli on cati is dramatic
check it here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=t2ITVBgS9f8#t=576s

to lose 6 minutes in 3 km...painful

alex zulle on montecampione day and landis medical trouble are also spectacular.


wow just painful to watch :o
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06 Dec 2012 16:47

very hard to distinguish hunger knocks and bad bb's

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if one had it on plat-d'adet, that was sevilla.
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06 Dec 2012 16:51

airstream wrote:very hard to distinguish hunger knocks and bad bb's

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if one had it on plat-d'adet, that was sevilla.


Did you see what Parrulo said?

are you going to drop the clinic talk or do you prefer to get a warning?
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06 Dec 2012 16:57

LaFlorecita wrote:Did you see what Parrulo said?


i'm afraid it is quite correct and it is within the limits of discussion without going into details. Well, I put my list of stages according to the rules! :)
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