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10 Dec 2012 18:27

the Inner Ring @inrng
"For those suggesting Katusha rejected over ethics, UCI says team can still apply for second division licence which suggests smaller problems

Sergi López-Egea @sergi_lopezegea
"El despido del manager Holczer de Katusha e informaciones pasadas por este a UCI sobre irregularidades financieras ha sido la causa exclusion"

Apperently firing Holczer and financial irregularities are the cause.
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10 Dec 2012 18:30

trevim wrote:So the UCI invents a stupid World Tour league and then keeps the former winner from it? Genius.


I would like to see the WT eliminated - let race organizers decide which teams to invite. Teams could still be ranked based on their results.
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10 Dec 2012 18:57

Unexpected, but won't harm them that much.
Vuelta certain, Giro probable, Spanish week calendar certain, Northern spring campaign - harmless, Tour - painful loss.
Although I'm not sure how ambitious they'd be in the Tour. Late stage, if nothing else.
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10 Dec 2012 19:16

lol @ UCI.

Katusha doesn't know why they are denied, but we tell everyone they got denied WT license and will inform Katusha later this week.

What a bunch of amateurish idiots sit at the office of the UCI.
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10 Dec 2012 19:19

This is terrible for Katusha, who have great structure, money of course and a good team. It must be doping related, but even if it could be JROD for example wouldn't riders like Menchov and Moreno still have enough points?
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10 Dec 2012 19:27

serfla wrote:Unexpected, but won't harm them that much.
Vuelta certain, Giro probable, Spanish week calendar certain, Northern spring campaign - harmless, Tour - painful loss.
Although I'm not sure how ambitious they'd be in the Tour. Late stage, if nothing else.


Europcar, Cofidis and Saur are sure locks, but the 4th spot is available.
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10 Dec 2012 19:32

It's not like Katusha did good at Tour d'France in recent years, Menchov and Karpets were flops and the rest invisible.
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10 Dec 2012 19:34

al_pacino wrote:weren't RusVelo removed from some races earlier this season and some theorised that it could be due to a link with katusha??

Am I making this up?

They were removed because they were in the same races as Katusha, while basically being Katusha's feeder team. That's not allowed.
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10 Dec 2012 19:39

Wigwan wrote:Europcar, Cofidis and Saur are sure locks, but the 4th spot is available.

Why was Contador nervous then?
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10 Dec 2012 19:52

serfla wrote:Unexpected, but won't harm them that much.
Vuelta certain, Giro probable, Spanish week calendar certain, Northern spring campaign - harmless, Tour - painful loss.
Although I'm not sure how ambitious they'd be in the Tour. Late stage, if nothing else.


there is a big stretch when the team has the certainty to participate in all the Pro tour races rather than "wait & beg for an spot" to be part of them-letting alone that because of that "uncertainty"-the riders cannot schedule/prepare/train in advance for races until the get the green light.....

this is just awful:mad:
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10 Dec 2012 19:56

trevim wrote:So the UCI invents a stupid World Tour league and then keeps the former winner from it? Genius.


Haha my thoughts exactly. How can they deny Purito's team a WT spot? This is just comical.
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10 Dec 2012 20:04

Before making a raged comment, why not wait for a comment from the UCI....I'm interested in the reasons behind. Of course sporting-wise it is shocking...
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10 Dec 2012 20:09

I think Katusha will miss Paris-Roubaix, Ronde van Vlanderen and possibly Tour de France
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10 Dec 2012 20:14

serfla wrote:Why was Contador nervous then?


Definitely not beyond the ASO to make surprise decisions when it comes to wildcards. Not saying they would have, but it wouldn't have shocked me if they'd snubbed Contador - wouldn't be the first time.
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10 Dec 2012 20:17

canyonball wrote:Before making a unraged comment, why not wait for a comment from the UCI....I'm interested in the reasons behind. Of course sporting-wise it is shocking...

This. If for example there's serious concerns about their finances or something like that, this is the right thing to do.
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10 Dec 2012 20:49

Danish papers are guessing at it might be due to Ekimov's position in the team, and his ties to the organization around Armstrong
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10 Dec 2012 20:57

hrotha wrote:This. If for example there's serious concerns about their finances or something like that, this is the right thing to do.


Euskaltel, nother PT team, appears to have financial issues:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/euskaltel-euskadi-selling-team-buses-to-pay-wages
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10 Dec 2012 21:01

Tonight in Madrid "Gala AS del deporte" an event of spanish sport daily AS.

The podium of La Vuelta is awarded

So Purito can talk about the World Tour License
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10 Dec 2012 21:17

avanti wrote:Euskaltel, nother PT team, appears to have financial issues:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/euskaltel-euskadi-selling-team-buses-to-pay-wages


That's not the same Euskaltel as the one who received a license today though.
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10 Dec 2012 21:28

theyoungest wrote:Also interesting that Rabobank got a 2 year license. What are they going to do with it in 2014?


Rabobank will still have contractual obligations til 2016 if the cycling team doesn't find a new sponsor. I don't think it will get to that but they can still hold them to that contract.
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