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14 Jan 2013 03:59

auscyclefan94 wrote:Really? I don't think the Bathurst Hill is overly long and not overly steep. That is what Galic Ho told me, who lives in the Bathurst area.


I grew up in Bathurst, and can confirm that you're mostly right, there are a couple of steep spots, but it's mostly not that steep....at least it's not going forwards around it. If you go backwards, it's REALLY steep up through Forests Elbow, the Esses and the Dipper.
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14 Jan 2013 04:02

abbaskip wrote:I grew up in Bathurst, and can confirm that you're mostly right, there are a couple of steep spots, but it's mostly not that steep....at least it's not going forwards around it. If you go backwards, it's REALLY steep up through Forests Elbow, the Esses and the Dipper.


Couldn't find a proper elevation map - like we get of stages, the closest thing I could find was this:


Hard to tell there, but you can see in an anti-clockwise direction it's much steeper, as the majority of the climbing is done over a much shorter distance. In the way up, it's done slowly and fairly consistently.

EDIT: Did some research, the elevation change is 174m from top to bottom apparently (though looking at Google Maps I could only see it being ~160m).
That's done in around 3km each direction - the total circuit is about 6km. This isn't so steep itself, but going up backwards, 120m of this is done in 1.3km - that's pretty steep, about 9.2% grade (though this is hard to say as generally road gradients are measured by the road distance, not the point to point distance - ie. the hypotenuse is usually used instead of the adjacent side), but it's an estimate. This isn't the steepest point, this is the average of the major part of the climb. The track actually dips down a little before starting the climb too, so it could be more.
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14 Jan 2013 13:50

abbaskip wrote:I grew up in Bathurst, and can confirm that you're mostly right, there are a couple of steep spots, but it's mostly not that steep....at least it's not going forwards around it. If you go backwards, it's REALLY steep up through Forests Elbow, the Esses and the Dipper.


Don't forget about the back road that goes past the tip, not very long but super steep. There are plenty of other roads in Bathurst that could be used for a championship as well.
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16 Jan 2013 08:56

woodie wrote:Don't forget about the back road that goes past the tip, not very long but super steep. There are plenty of other roads in Bathurst that could be used for a championship as well.


Yeah, but finishing at the Mount, surely?! :)

The hill up College Road towards the tip is actually basically going up the side of Mount Panorama anyway. They could start by going out through Rockley, back via Trunkey Road. That's about an 80km loop (if they started at the Murrays Corner at the bottom of the mount), and 65km just the loop part (before the back tracking starts). They could do the two loops, starting at the bottom, that's 145km, then 10-12 laps of the mount. You're looking at 200-220km. And quite a bit of hill.

I think the mount backwards still works best though.
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05 Feb 2015 02:53

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05 Feb 2015 03:08

Stage 1 Result
Provisional

Time/Gap Bonus
1. 4 Cameron MEYER (OGE) 3h29:47 10
2. 65 Joseph COOPER (ART) +0 6
3. 61 Patrick BEVIN (ART) +10 4
4. 1 Simon CLARKE (OGE) +10
5. 26 Daniel SUMMERHILL (UHC) +10
6. 31 Franco PELLIZOTTI (AND) +10
7. 15 Serge PAUWELS (MTN) +10
8. 142 Grant FERGUSON (GBR) +10
9. 6 Damien HOWSON (OGE) +10
10. 76 Brendan CANTY (BFL) +10
11. 134 Lachlan MORTON (AUS) +10
12. 22 Lucas EUSER (UHC) +10
13. 156 Robert POWER (JUA) +10
14. 143 Scott DAVIES (GBR) +10
15. 74 Michael TORCKLER (BFL) +10
16. 132 Chris HAMILTON (AUS) +10
17. 102 Mitchell COOPER (NSR) +10
18. 64 Mark O'BRIEN (ART) +10
19. 23 Christopher JONES (UHC) +10
20. 44 Lachlan NORRIS (DPC) +10
21. 63 Patrick SHAW (ART) +10

•Average speed of the winner: 41.8 km/h
•Number of starters: 93
General Classification
PROVISIONAL After Stage 1

Time/Gap
1. 4 Cameron MEYER (OGE) 3h32:15
2. 65 Joseph COOPER (ART) +4
3. 61 Patrick BEVIN (ART) +15
4. 1 Simon CLARKE (OGE) +19
5. 44 Lachlan NORRIS (DPC) +23
6. 6 Damien HOWSON (OGE) +23
7. 26 Daniel SUMMERHILL (UHC) +24
8. 134 Lachlan MORTON (AUS) +27
9. 143 Scott DAVIES (GBR) +28
10. 102 Mitchell COOPER (NSR) +28
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05 Feb 2015 03:11

Stage 1 break decides the JHST again
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05 Feb 2015 06:17

swuzzlebubble wrote:Stage 1 break decides the JHST again


...which is what used to happen in TDU before it went WT.
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05 Feb 2015 08:10

so Orica clocks up the first win of the season.
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05 Feb 2015 17:10

So how did this break manage the 21 minute time gap?
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06 Feb 2015 04:40

Stage 2 Result
Time/Gap Bonus
1. 2 Caleb EWAN (OGE) 2h38:51 10
2. 131 Steele VON HOFF (AUS) +0 6
3. 71 Samuel WITMITZ (BFL) +0 4
4. 21 John MURPHY (UHC) +0
5. 43 Brenton JONES (DPC) +0
6. 111 Massimo GRAZIATO (AWS) +0
7. 122 James MOWATT (DSR) +0
8. 55 Graham BRIGGS (JLT) +0
9. 85 Michael RICE (STR) +0
10. 25 Tanner PUTT (UHC) +0
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06 Feb 2015 07:32

So Ewan's first proper Orica win. Not exactly A level competition, but a win is a win.
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06 Feb 2015 11:16

Uhm, got a question regarding the podium-photo. Assuming they're all standing on the same level, otherwise Ewan is really short.
In Italy when you need a coffee you need the right barista, so you need to teach Chris [Juul Jensen] how to make the right coffee.


Lars Michaelsen during the Tinkoff-Saxo team briefing before stage 11 of the 2014 Giro d'Italia.
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06 Feb 2015 11:22

Dazed and Confused wrote:So Ewan's first proper Orica win. Not exactly A level competition, but a win is a win.


What's the difference between Ewan win and the one obtained by Cam Meyer the day before?
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06 Feb 2015 11:34

Ricco' wrote:What's the difference between Ewan win and the one obtained by Cam Meyer the day before?


None? He said ''Ewan's first proper win''.
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07 Feb 2015 03:23

Stage 3 Result
Time/Gap Bonus
1. 2 Caleb EWAN (OGE) 3h25:17 10
2. 12 Tyler FARRAR (MTN) +0 6
3. 131 Steele VON HOFF (AUS) +0 4
4. 21 John MURPHY (UHC) +0
5. 41 William CLARKE (DPC) +0
6. 32 Tiziano DALL'ANTONIA (AND) +0
7. 52 Felix ENGLISH (JLT) +0
8. 106 Grayson NAPIER (NSR) +0
9. 61 Patrick BEVIN (ART) +0
10. 122 James MOWATT (DSR) +0
11. 72 Tommy NANKERVIS (BFL) +0
12. 94 Paul VAN DER PLOEG (CMR) +0
13. 55 Graham BRIGGS (JLT) +0
14. 15 Serge PAUWELS (MTN) +0
15. 44 Lachlan NORRIS (DPC) +0
16. 63 Patrick SHAW (ART) +0
17. 104 Jackson MAWBY (NSR) +0
18. 56 Thomas MOSES (JLT) +0
19. 4 Cameron MEYER (OGE) +0
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07 Feb 2015 07:29

Gloin22 wrote:None? He said ''Ewan's first proper win''.


That's it. The difference between Ewan's win and the one obtained by Cam Meyer the day before is that one was won by Ewan, while the other was won by Meyer. :p
In Italy when you need a coffee you need the right barista, so you need to teach Chris [Juul Jensen] how to make the right coffee.


Lars Michaelsen during the Tinkoff-Saxo team briefing before stage 11 of the 2014 Giro d'Italia.
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07 Feb 2015 07:49

RedheadDane wrote:Uhm, got a question regarding the podium-photo. Assuming they're all standing on the same level, otherwise Ewan is really short.


Ewan is 1.65 m (5 ft 5 in)
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07 Feb 2015 10:24

Interesting to see this OLD thread reappear. There we were a couple of years ago spruiking Caleb Ewan and he is now winning for OGE. I am a real fan of the Go Pro vision that OGE have been playing with, the vision from Robbie McEwan back in one of his final races was great to watch.

OGE have let or asked young gun Ewan to put one on his bike and out of two goes, he wins two stages. Check out the vision at Backstage Pass
http://www.greenedgecycling.com/backstage-pass/

Talking about his height, look for his head appearing whilst sprinting, he certainly gets down nice and low, much like Cavendish.

If you watch Caleb Ewan- the Jet prior to Stage 2, then watch the Stage 2 highlights it is a great contrast.
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07 Feb 2015 10:42

Gabriel Gray wrote:Ewan is 1.65 m (5 ft 5 in)


Image

:)
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