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Better overall rider

Cadel Evans
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22%
Alberto Contador
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78%
 
Total votes : 154

The Better Overall Rider: Evans or Contador

15 Dec 2012 02:32

We had Boonen vs Cancellara, now it's time to the Evans vs Contador debate

Cadel Evans:

2 x Romandie, 1 T-A, 1 Flèche Wallone, 1 WC RR, 1 TDF, 1st UCI Pro Tour 2007, 2 x 2nd TDF, 1 x 3rd Vuelta, 2x World Cup MTB

Alberto Contador:

2 x TDF, 1 x Giro, 2 x Vuelta, 2 x Paris-Nice, 2x Pays Vasco, UCI World Ranking 2009, Milano-Torino (1 TDF and 1 Giro lost for clinic reasons)
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15 Dec 2012 02:35

Again, the issue becomes quite ambiguous when you include MTB results for Evans and then comparing them to other riders who are not MTB riders, like Contador. I voted for Evans.
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15 Dec 2012 02:43

Easy choice.

Evans, competetive all season if he wants to. Has even showed some skills in the cobbles in TDF 2010.
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15 Dec 2012 03:07

Wigwan, remember to tick the "show users votes" next time, makes it more fun :D

Went for Contador. Far better climber than Evans (at least up to 2010), equal in TT. So Contador the better stage racer Vs Evans superior on a single day. Do not think we see enough of Evans at his best in Classics though.
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15 Dec 2012 03:18

Yep, it's the off season.

The answer is Contador. The only thing Evans is better at is short uphill sprints, like we see in the classics. And Contador is still pretty close to him there. Plus results-wise 7 GT's beats 1 GT, 1 Fleche Wallone, and 1 World RR.
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15 Dec 2012 03:28

Thanks for keeping the Polls alive Wigwan!

Contador by at least several GT wins :D Worlds, egh not much of a factor in this vs poll. A past wheelsucker can't really compare to a rider who has always attacked and made the race.

The only vs poll Evans might win is Sastre v1.0 v Sastre v2.0 (Evans).
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15 Dec 2012 03:42

Ferminal wrote:Wigwan, remember to tick the "show users votes" next time, makes it more fun :D

Went for Contador. Far better climber than Evans (at least up to 2010), equal in TT. So Contador the better stage racer Vs Evans superior on a single day. Do not think we see enough of Evans at his best in Classics though.


I'll make sure I tick it the next time ;)
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15 Dec 2012 03:49

not on the same level

Contador is in the building. Evans? front yard.
or, as elchingon put it: Contador by several GTs

on to the next one :D
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15 Dec 2012 04:19

Evans more versatile : Worlds, Montalcino etc and a shame he did not do more in classics. Contador the superior stage racer.
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15 Dec 2012 04:23

Contador as a road cyclist. Including MTB isn't fair.

Cadel, for all his talk of a good all rounder hasn't won a monument , and until his WC victory, was a gutless wheel sucker.
Contador's ability to dominate Grand tours puts him at the top.

5 GTS & 4 WT stage races> 1 Gt, 1 WC, 1 WT one day race and 3 WT stage races.
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15 Dec 2012 04:36

The next poll should be Who is the better rider Robo Basso 2006 or Cyborg Wiggins 2012.btw I think not evans in this poll.
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15 Dec 2012 04:52

the asian wrote:Contador as a road cyclist. Including MTB isn't fair.

Cadel, for all his talk of a good all rounder hasn't won a monument , and until his WC victory, was a gutless wheel sucker.
Contador's ability to dominate Grand tours puts him at the top.

5 GTS & 4 WT stage races> 1 Gt, 1 WC, 1 WT one day race and 3 WT stage races.


Evans was never a gutless wheel sucker. He rode defensively because he wasn't good enough to attack and confident enough to do it without burning himself out. The times he did try and attack in the early Tours he paid for it later. That's not wheel sucking, that's knowing what he was capable of. Even without the MTB results, Evans is the more versatile across all types of road races.
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15 Dec 2012 05:53

movingtarget wrote:Evans was never a gutless wheel sucker. He rode defensively because he wasn't good enough to attack and confident enough to do it without burning himself out. The times he did try and attack in the early Tours he paid for it later. That's not wheel sucking, that's knowing what he was capable of. Even without the MTB results, Evans is the more versatile across all types of road races.


But doesn't have the palmares to show it.
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15 Dec 2012 05:58

the asian wrote:Contador as a road cyclist. Including MTB isn't fair.

Cadel, for all his talk of a good all rounder hasn't won a monument , and until his WC victory, was a gutless wheel sucker.
Contador's ability to dominate Grand tours puts him at the top.

5 GTS & 4 WT stage races> 1 Gt, 1 WC, 1 WT one day race and 3 WT stage races.


That is a very short sighted view of Evans. You don't attack when you don't have the legs. Clearly Evans in many instances just didn't have the legs. Unless you think committing suicide (figuratively) on the bike is the best way to get a good palmares, then yes Evans is a 'gutless wheel sucker'.

Personally I think Evans is a better time trial rider when both are at their best, Contador a better climber but Evans is a more versatile rider.
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15 Dec 2012 06:40

auscyclefan94 wrote:That is a very short sighted view of Evans. You don't attack when you don't have the legs. Clearly Evans in many instances just didn't have the legs. Unless you think committing suicide (figuratively) on the bike is the best way to get a good palmares, then yes Evans is a 'gutless wheel sucker'.

Personally I think Evans is a better time trial rider when both are at their best, Contador a better climber but Evans is a more versatile rider.


Contador is a better rider than Cadel Evans because Cadel when someone attacks on a climb,he is already on that wheel and stays there.And in the 2013 Tour he will have no chance against Contador and Froome.
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15 Dec 2012 08:22

Alberto, duh. He is the best :D
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15 Dec 2012 09:05

Contador takes it. Will likely be clearer with time.
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15 Dec 2012 09:06

@Zam
yes that would be an interesting discussion.
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15 Dec 2012 09:07

auscyclefan94 wrote:That is a very short sighted view of Evans. You don't attack when you don't have the legs. Clearly Evans in many instances just didn't have the legs. Unless you think committing suicide (figuratively) on the bike is the best way to get a good palmares, then yes Evans is a 'gutless wheel sucker'.

Personally I think Evans is a better time trial rider when both are at their best, Contador a better climber but Evans is a more versatile rider.


Yeah indeed Evans didn't have the legs as often as Contador, why would that be? Maybe cause he's better lol

Contador can also win classics like Evans. Contador just has a bigger chance in GT's than Evans thus he focuses more on that. Evans has a way better sprint though.

In TT they're equal at their best. No way Evans is better.

I can't believe some many people voted for Evans. This is Contador we're talking about.

Btw Contador is 5 years younger. Doesn't anyone think you've to keep that in mind?;)
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15 Dec 2012 09:50

palmares - contador
actual strength - contador
versatility - evans
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