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Junior racing - The stars of the future

15 Dec 2012 23:00

Who will be the best juniors in 2013?

The Danish guys always seem to do good in the juniors and they got some good names for next year aswell.

Pedersen and Eg will probably have good rides in 2013. Other names that could feature in 2013: Van der Poel, Burton, Van Hooydonck, Curran.

Who am I fogetting?
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15 Dec 2012 23:45

Caleb Ewan, Mads Schmidt.
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16 Dec 2012 00:03

They will be U23 in 2013
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16 Dec 2012 00:06

Yes. I know i was wrong.:o
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16 Dec 2012 00:21

Mathias krigbaum will be a beast in the tt's.

There's also Casper pedersen who will ride his first year as junior. This year he won the national championships in both tt and road race in u17 and got third in the junior road race, being the only one able to follow some of the strong roskilde-junior guys :)
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16 Dec 2012 08:48

Will Matej Mohoric be u 23 next year, or still a junior?
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16 Dec 2012 11:09

the asian wrote:Will Matej Mohoric be u 23 next year, or still a junior?


U23, guys that were born in 95 and 96 will be juniors.
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16 Dec 2012 11:12

Bushman wrote:Mathias krigbaum will be a beast in the tt's.

There's also Casper pedersen who will ride his first year as junior. This year he won the national championships in both tt and road race in u17 and got third in the junior road race, being the only one able to follow some of the strong roskilde-junior guys :)


Krigbaum will indeed probably have the best chances on becomming world champion in the TT. Although I think he has an advantage on a lot of the other guys the way he is build, I think he is a little further then most guys so im not sure about his future potential.

Havent heared of Casper Pedersen yet but he surely sounds like a talent. What are his strong points? As you said he can time trial, and what kinda stage was the road race? Hills?
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16 Dec 2012 18:20

Ruudz0r wrote:U23, guys that were born in 95 and 96 will be juniors.


People born in those years are not guys. They are children.
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17 Dec 2012 02:32

Next year look out for Jack Edwards. The guy is a first year U19 rider - and generally a pursuiter/points racer, but then turned around and won the NSW State Kieren title...He also looked great in the NSW Criterium series recently - against guys like Sutton and Matthews, and he's only 16.
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17 Dec 2012 06:06

Ruudz0r wrote:Krigbaum will indeed probably have the best chances on becomming world champion in the TT. Although I think he has an advantage on a lot of the other guys the way he is build, I think he is a little further then most guys so im not sure about his future potential.

Havent heared of Casper Pedersen yet but he surely sounds like a talent. What are his strong points? As you said he can time trial, and what kinda stage was the road race? Hills?


Good allround, too big to be climber, but Quite explosive and decent at hills. Good engine.
The course was the most hilly in the danish championships ever i think and it rained a lot.

He is also very good on the track.
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17 Dec 2012 06:08

Apparently Oskar Svendsen (World Junior TT Champion) has the highest ever recorded VO2 max - 97.5 ml/kg/min.

http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/12929/If-all-goes-to-plan-big-future-predicted-for-junior-world-champion-Oskar-Svendsen.aspx
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17 Dec 2012 09:18

GPdesAmeriques wrote:Apparently Oskar Svendsen (World Junior TT Champion) has the highest ever recorded VO2 max - 97.5 ml/kg/min.

http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/12929/If-all-goes-to-plan-big-future-predicted-for-junior-world-champion-Oskar-Svendsen.aspx


Are they serious about the GT winner stuff? I remember from another thread that he weighs 75 kgs or more. He could be a classics rider, not a GT contender, crazy Norwegians. :p VO2 max doesn't give a very clear indication of potential, he still has to progress a lot to be competitive in pro races.
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17 Dec 2012 09:25

Pentacycle wrote:Are they serious about the GT winner stuff? I remember from another thread that he weighs 75 kgs or more. He could be a classics rider, not a GT contender, crazy Norwegians. :p VO2 max doesn't give a very clear indication of potential, he still has to progress a lot to be competitive in pro races.

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Well, he's not exactly fat either. But he's really tall, which is why he weighs around 75 kg (probably a bit less). VO2 max isn't everything, but he also has a very high FTP of around 450 watt or so. And he only started cycling 3 years ago, before that he was an alpine skier...

Anyway, I think he's u23 next year? Junior is only for 17/18 year old's isn't it?
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17 Dec 2012 09:37

yes he is u23 next year with joker merida
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17 Dec 2012 10:42

maltiv wrote:Image

Well, he's not exactly fat either. But he's really tall, which is why he weighs around 75 kg (probably a bit less). VO2 max isn't everything, but he also has a very high FTP of around 450 watt or so. And he only started cycling 3 years ago, before that he was an alpine skier...

Anyway, I think he's u23 next year? Junior is only for 17/18 year old's isn't it?


The thing is usually riders tend to get heavier muscles, as they progress. I expect him to become heavier the next few years, probably close to 80 kgs.
For example, Lars Boom weighed around 70, 71 kgs when he was a junior WC in cyclocross at 17 years. Now he's listed as being 78-80 kilos,
which means he gained 7-9 kgs over the past 10 years. He went from being a lanky stage racer in the U23 to a heavy prologue and classics specialists in the pro ranks.
Still it depends individually per rider, of course.
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17 Dec 2012 10:43

he's definitely a beast but the real question in pro cycling isn't about vo2 max and about how much can he torture himself day after day?
maybe the next indurain,maybe not...
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17 Dec 2012 11:30

Pentacycle wrote:The thing is usually riders tend to get heavier muscles, as they progress. I expect him to become heavier the next few years, probably close to 80 kgs.
For example, Lars Boom weighed around 70, 71 kgs when he was a junior WC in cyclocross at 17 years. Now he's listed as being 78-80 kilos,
which means he gained 7-9 kgs over the past 10 years. He went from being a lanky stage racer in the U23 to a heavy prologue and classics specialists in the pro ranks.
Still it depends individually per rider, of course.

On the other hand, EBH for example went from being 78-79 kg's as u23 to 73 kg's after a year at Sky. However, unlike EBH, Svendsen doesn't appear to have much excess fat to lose to be honest. So yeah, he might be too heavy to be a GT contender, but I wouldn't rule him out.

l'Avenir will be his main goal next year, will be interesting to see if he can climb.
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17 Dec 2012 16:34

There are so many interesting names to follow in the coming season.

A few names I am particularly looking forward to follow though.

Riccardo Minali. I think he will have an excellent 2013 campaign. Son of the former Gewiss - Ballan sprinter Nicola Minali.

Enric Mas Nicolau. It will be interesting to follow him within A. Contadors new junior project! Good prospect.

Elie Gesbert. Super-talent. So much power in that tiny frame of his!
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17 Dec 2012 22:41

Ruudz0r wrote:Who will be the best juniors in 2013?

The Danish guys always seem to do good in the juniors and they got some good names for next year aswell.

Pedersen and Eg will probably have good rides in 2013. Other names that could feature in 2013: Van der Poel, Burton, Van Hooydonck, Curran.

Who am I fogetting?


Ben Perry just signed to Lotto U23 team
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