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Who will win the 2013 GIRO? (Second round)

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Who will win the 2013 GIRO?

Wiggins
52
30%
Nibali
51
30%
Rodriguez
11
6%
Hesjedal
10
6%
Gesink
21
12%
Sanchez
5
3%
Basso
6
4%
Scarponi
2
1%
A colombian
4
2%
Other/Vino
9
5%
 
Total votes : 171

05 Jan 2013 06:28

airstream wrote:Planches des Belles Filles. Attack! I don't wanna... :o

My opinion is there is no principal difference between a 6% av. climb and an 8-8.5% one. If one is good, one is good at any climbs and it works almost always. A really powerful team can arrange an up-and-downer even on a climb like.. Sierra Nevada... I don't know. It is exceptionally a matter of purpose. But even if it is the case. Since when has Nibali became an outstanding master of steep ramps? :)

probably never ridden a bike.
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05 Jan 2013 09:20

Pentacycle wrote:It's always funny to see how Scarponi(only 32, should still be in his peak:confused:) and Basso(turned 35 a month ago) are considered too old, but Sanchez(turns 35 in a month) to be a certain podium contender. Sanchez's last good GT was the 2010 Tour, in 2011 he already had some more bad days. He's still a class rider in the classics and as a stage hunter, but he doesn't have the consistency in GT's he used to have a few years ago.

In Sanchez' last crash-free GT he got 6th and won the polka dot jersey, so he should still be okay. He has always been a rather strange rider in terms of performances on climbs. As has Scarponi. Both of them are difficult to rate for the next Giro, but if they get it together of course they should fight for the podium.

Basso had an absolute cr.p preparation that last year, and he wasn't that bad in the Giro, so I think he's still in with a chance.
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05 Jan 2013 11:31

Afrank wrote:So far I'd say the competition is looking very good. Nibali, Sanchez, Hesjedal, Gesink, Pellizotti, Betancur, Pozzovivo plus many more. I would even venture to say currently the Giro's competition is looking better than the Tour's.
You forgot Wiggins (not that is anything wrong with that) :D. Agree, I see Giro as a better race, more competition, and anything can happen.
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05 Jan 2013 12:47

Dekker_Tifosi wrote:louis Delahaije ‏@CoachLuicito Great exercise test of @RGUpdate today. 527 watts and 7,18/kg. New personal best. #readyfortheseason @BlancoCycling




Guess we can end all debate. The winner is known. That's 17w better than his pre-leg break level.. the fuq?
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I stopped reading at louis Delahaije :rolleyes:
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05 Jan 2013 12:48

Pentacycle wrote:I wonder what's wrong with these tests if Boom suddenly inmproves 30W over last year? I'm still not getting excited all of the sudden because of a lab test that has nothing to do with racing. :o Perhaps he's just in better condition than he ever was at this time of the year.

He's also 73,4 kgs, isn't that a little too heavy? Even Wiggins will still drop him easily.


how heavy do you think wiggins is now? :rolleyes:
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05 Jan 2013 12:49

staubsauger wrote:I thought that Aquarone asked the Africans to take part at the giro, but they didn't wan to do so?

Anyway, I go for
Vini Fantini
Bardiani
Colombia

as I see Katjoesja getting a wildcard at the Tour instead of Colombia then and Purito will stay.


correct

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05 Jan 2013 12:58

Ryo Hazuki wrote:how heavy do you think wiggins is now? :rolleyes:


The weight I mentioned was probably wrong because that Rabo trainer always messes up, so deriving other data from the tests isn't very useful. And I always thought Gesink was anorectic and all skin and bone, guess I was wrong about that. :o

Wiggins is probably 75+ kgs now, but he's listed as 69 kgs racing weight. But swimming will shed the unnecessary pounds as usual, we don't have to worry about it. :rolleyes:
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05 Jan 2013 13:16

Pentacycle wrote:The weight I mentioned was probably wrong because that Rabo trainer always messes up, so deriving other data from the tests isn't very useful. And I always thought Gesink was anorectic and all skin and bone, guess I was wrong about that. :o

Wiggins is probably 75+ kgs now, but he's listed as 69 kgs racing weight. But swimming will shed the unnecessary pounds as usual, we don't have to worry about it. :rolleyes:

Don't blame your own stupid comment on the trainer. Gesink is somewhere around 73 kgs at this time, perfectly normal.

He is indeed skin and bones, his normal racing weight is probably somewhere around 69 kgs, which is very skinny for someone approaching 1,90 m. In fact, he's pretty comparable to Wiggins and Hesjedal in that regard: none of them a real natural climber.

But of course they don't go around all year at their ideal racing weight, that isn't healthy.
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05 Jan 2013 13:19

Pentacycle wrote:The weight I mentioned was probably wrong because that Rabo trainer always messes up, so deriving other data from the tests isn't very useful. And I always thought Gesink was anorectic and all skin and bone, guess I was wrong about that. :o

Wiggins is probably 75+ kgs now, but he's listed as 69 kgs racing weight. But swimming will shed the unnecessary pounds as usual, we don't have to worry about it. :rolleyes:


Wiggins doesn't do any swimming. Merely have a swimming coach suffices.
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05 Jan 2013 13:24

Pentacycle wrote:The weight I mentioned was probably wrong because that Rabo trainer always messes up, so deriving other data from the tests isn't very useful. And I always thought Gesink was anorectic and all skin and bone, guess I was wrong about that. :o

Wiggins is probably 75+ kgs now, but he's listed as 69 kgs racing weight. But swimming will shed the unnecessary pounds as usual, we don't have to worry about it. :rolleyes:


you think 190 and 73 kg isn't anorect and all skin and bones? :o

and no he is 73 kg right now, which is perfectly normal, riders easily gain up to 5 or more kg during off season, or in pieri's case 15 kg
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05 Jan 2013 13:28

will10 wrote:Wiggins doesn't do any swimming. Merely have a swimming coach suffices.


Still swimming burns fat and it's good training for the entire body, a very good work-out for the off-season. The swimming coach might have recommended it.
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05 Jan 2013 17:26

I voted Gesink and yet I'm amazed that 17 more people voted for him :eek:
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05 Jan 2013 17:26

SafeBet wrote:I voted Gesink and yet I'm amazed that 17 more people voted for him :eek:

All Dutchies.
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05 Jan 2013 17:48

SafeBet wrote:I voted Gesink and yet I'm amazed that 17 more people voted for him :eek:


that's nationalism for you
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05 Jan 2013 18:08

It's still better than the amount of votes Wiggins is getting.
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05 Jan 2013 20:55

Only voted because I didnt want to have to click on "View Poll Results" everytime. But not likely he'll win it. :')
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06 Jan 2013 16:25

Gesink. For what it's worth. I am sadly no longer convinced that Nibali's got what it takes (although I'd be delighted for him to prove me wrong) and I'm not sure that Wiggins will reproduce last year's form or have the same appetite.

Sanchez will liven things up and I'm looking forward to watching him, but I don't see him on the podium somehow this year.
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06 Jan 2013 16:43

Ryo Hazuki wrote:you think 190 and 73 kg isn't anorect and all skin and bones? :o

and no he is 73 kg right now, which is perfectly normal, riders easily gain up to 5 or more kg during off season, or in pieri's case 15 kg


No actually I am 190cm and used to be only 70kg for a few years, now I'm skinny for sure, but nothing unhealthy. (I'm almost 75kg now :p) BMI is just fine for 190cm and 70kg.
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06 Jan 2013 17:01

Swabian Lass wrote:Gesink. For what it's worth. I am sadly no longer convinced that Nibali's got what it takes (although I'd be delighted for him to prove me wrong) and I'm not sure that Wiggins will reproduce last year's form or have the same appetite.

Sanchez will liven things up and I'm looking forward to watching him, but I don't see him on the podium somehow this year.
Is he becoming now a trash talker? :D Do you mind posting the source of his comments?
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06 Jan 2013 17:05

cineteq wrote:Is he becoming now a trash talker? :D Do you mind posting the source of his comments?


This sounds promising, but agree we need a bit more info.
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