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Who will win the 2013 GIRO? (Second round)

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Who will win the 2013 GIRO?

Wiggins
52
30%
Nibali
51
30%
Rodriguez
11
6%
Hesjedal
10
6%
Gesink
21
12%
Sanchez
5
3%
Basso
6
4%
Scarponi
2
1%
A colombian
4
2%
Other/Vino
9
5%
 
Total votes : 171

18 Dec 2012 20:40

Pentacycle wrote:He's definitely one of the favourites, but it depends on the weather conditions imo. Giro 2012 had rain and cold all over the second and third week, which obviously benefited Hesjedal on the longer run as a much heavier rider than his competitors, except Basso. If the 2013 Giro has relatively good weather it's up to the lighter guys to take the win.


the giro is basically every year rain and cold. only exception was 2005.
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18 Dec 2012 21:07

Ryo Hazuki wrote:the giro is basically every year rain and cold. only exception was 2005.


A rule needs its exceptions once in a while. Giro 2013 better have some nice weather. :cool:
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18 Dec 2012 21:20

ElChingon wrote:Hesjedal has zero fan appeal, name one thing about him other than that he won the Giro and that he's always confused as an American but is a Canadian.

He has a funny name.

There, that's another well known fact about Hesjedal.

Pentacycle wrote:A rule needs its exceptions once in a while. Giro 2013 better have some nice weather. :cool:

Yeah. Now all they need to do is take out the 50 k flat TT and Purito is the red hot favourite ;)
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18 Dec 2012 21:45

theyoungest wrote:Yeah. Now all they need to do is take out the 50 k flat TT and Purito is the red hot favourite ;)


I'm even considering a nice bet on him. He's a much better climber than Wiggins, if he doesn't have an offday he can win this.
Whatever happens I'm supporting him if he goes.
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18 Dec 2012 21:49

Pentacycle wrote:I'm even considering a nice bet on him. He's a much better climber than Wiggins, if he doesn't have an offday he can win this.
Whatever happens I'm supporting him if he goes.


Could make for a better race if Purito loses masses in the long ITT - might force his hand before the last 500m.
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18 Dec 2012 22:55

Eshnar wrote:I thought Ryo told us Quintana is not going.
And Scarponi, well, he's just as embarassing as Basso but I wanted to put more than just one italian in the poll :o


Scarponi did a bad Giro this year and was still 4th. Embarassing that is not.
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18 Dec 2012 23:33

ElChingon wrote:Hesjedal has zero fan appeal, name one thing about him other than that he won the Giro and that he's always confused as an American but is a Canadian.


He can do this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oA2fIQ50Wdg

And his wife is hot.
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19 Dec 2012 00:51

Wigwan wrote:He can do this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oA2fIQ50Wdg

And his wife is hot.


Thanks for that, now I will try to remember not to shake his hand when I meet him. Need more info on the latter though.
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19 Dec 2012 07:53

theyoungest wrote:It's interesting how almost nobody rates Hesjedal... why would he be worse than Gesink, or even Nibali? This is how Vaughters likes it, he'll start as the underdog once again, but to me he has an equal or bigger chance than those guys.


Of course he has a way bigger chance than Gesink, who needs to improve a sh!t ton over his 2012 level to be considered a podium contender. To just expect that that will happen is nothing more than wishful thinking, IMO. I think Nibali is generally more consistent than Hesjedal, though, although both have their bad days.
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19 Dec 2012 09:07

Altitude wrote:Scarponi did a bad Giro this year and was still 4th. Embarassing that is not.

His racing attitude was embarassing, not his (relative) strength
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19 Dec 2012 09:28

18-Valve. (pithy) wrote:Of course he has a way bigger chance than Gesink, who needs to improve a sh!t ton over his 2012 level to be considered a podium contender. To just expect that that will happen is nothing more than wishful thinking, IMO. I think Nibali is generally more consistent than Hesjedal, though, although both have their bad days.


Don't be blinded by the Vuelta where he had virtually no preparation.
But yeah Gesink needs a combination of his 2010 climbing level with his 2011/2012 time trial level to be able to stand a chance. Remains to be seen..but if he has a flawless preparation for once...
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19 Dec 2012 09:51

Dekker_Tifosi wrote:Don't be blinded by the Vuelta where he had virtually no preparation.
But yeah Gesink needs a combination of his 2010 climbing level with his 2011/2012 time trial level to be able to stand a chance. Remains to be seen..but if he has a flawless preparation for once...

Delahaye is still his trainer, so I'm not holding my breath ;)
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19 Dec 2012 10:10

Dekker_Tifosi wrote:Don't be blinded by the Vuelta where he had virtually no preparation.
But yeah Gesink needs a combination of his 2010 climbing level with his 2011/2012 time trial level to be able to stand a chance. Remains to be seen..but if he has a flawless preparation for once...


you keep saying that for every race in the past 2 years of gesink :rolleyes: his vuelta prep was fine. he even did the tour. this is just his level now. pathetic I know. when he was 22 he was already at his peak and the crashes and lack of mentality have only made it worse
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19 Dec 2012 10:17

Ryo Hazuki wrote:you keep saying that for every race in the past 2 years of gesink :rolleyes: his vuelta prep was fine. he even did the tour. this is just his level now. pathetic I know. when he was 22 he was already at his peak and the crashes and lack of mentality have only made it worse

You keep saying that for all of his career ;)

BTW he was arguably at his strongest in the 2010... he was 24 then. And no, his Vuelta prep wasn't good at all. Remember Burgos?
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19 Dec 2012 13:30

theyoungest wrote:You keep saying that for all of his career ;)

BTW he was arguably at his strongest in the 2010... he was 24 then. And no, his Vuelta prep wasn't good at all. Remember Burgos?


burgos? he crashed again there? don't remember. the vuelta in which he crashed was the best he ever was(2009?). the tour 2010 he also got dropped and lucky a few times that the peloton stopped. like in that final mountainstage. gesink looks and sounds in his 30s. he has only gotten less explosive since turning pro and he isn't improving for years now.
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19 Dec 2012 14:03

Ryo Hazuki wrote:burgos? he crashed again there? don't remember.


No, he didn't crash. He just wasn't as strong as Rabobank hoped for.
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20 Dec 2012 04:48

Ryo Hazuki wrote:burgos? he crashed again there? don't remember. the vuelta in which he crashed was the best he ever was(2009?). the tour 2010 he also got dropped and lucky a few times that the peloton stopped. like in that final mountainstage. gesink looks and sounds in his 30s. he has only gotten less explosive since turning pro and he isn't improving for years now.


agreed he was better in 2009 vuelta, at that point he looked super good. But he was pretty good at the 10' tour also, and had to help menchov also. He looked to be in the form of his life heading into lombardy in 10' though... then his father died which pretty much screwed his 2011 up along with injuries.

No way he had ideal prep for vuelta, that is failure to understand how the human body works. His injury was they type of injury that can destroy careers. I have my doubts on gesink now though, with that acceleration he will struggle to ever make a difference in the mountains. He will probably struggle to reach the heights he had potential to reach at this point, but to ignore the difficult two years he has had (and again the broken femur is serious business, I can only assume you've never broken a bone, let alone one that is so important for a cyclist) is simply ignorant.
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20 Dec 2012 06:42

voted gesink to win the Giro for purely sentimental reasons. Wish the guy all the best now that he is focusing on something else than the TdF, hopefully he doesn't crash.
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20 Dec 2012 08:59

Basso, Nibali is his waterboy.

I didn't want to start a thread for a single question, but can anyone point me to where/when details of the 2013 Giro Bio course may be published. I'm going to be half way around the world for a wedding in Italy next year which I will follow up with some riding, looking to do some of the big Giro climbs (Stelvio etc) so thought if the GiroBio is in the area at the same time and doing similar climbs to last year I might as well ride up beforehand and watch the future stars go by.

Cheers
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20 Dec 2012 09:39

PCutter wrote:Basso, Nibali is his waterboy.

I didn't want to start a thread for a single question, but can anyone point me to where/when details of the 2013 Giro Bio course may be published. I'm going to be half way around the world for a wedding in Italy next year which I will follow up with some riding, looking to do some of the big Giro climbs (Stelvio etc) so thought if the GiroBio is in the area at the same time and doing similar climbs to last year I might as well ride up beforehand and watch the future stars go by.

Cheers


Even Robo-basso would struggle to win the Giro with the mountain domestics Cannondale have...Caruso, Wurf, Salerno, and Sarmiento if he's lucky...perhaps Agostini might step up this year as well and fulfill his talents. Certainly that's not enough though to help a rider through the mountains of the Giro though
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