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Best Uphill Sprinter From Those 4? (6-8%)

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Best Uphill Sprinter From Those 4? (6-8%)

Poll ended at 07 Feb 2013 15:20

A.Valverde
11
11%
P.Gilbert
55
56%
J.Rodriguez
15
15%
P.Sagan
18
18%
 
Total votes : 99

19 Dec 2012 17:13

theyoungest wrote:A 1 km hill at 6%, Gilbert has been unbeatable on those for a while. I don't know if he still is, but I guess so.

Anything longer, I don't know. Valverde maybe.


In 2011, yes. But so far 2011 seems to be an exception, in all other years he hasn't been unbeatable.

But my post was making the point that with 2 HC climbs before 500m hill, Purito will win.
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19 Dec 2012 17:16

Arnout wrote:In 2011, yes. But so far 2011 seems to be an exception, in all other years he hasn't been unbeatable.

But my post was making the point that with 2 HC climbs before 500m hill, Purito will win.


Looked pretty unbeatable to me on the Cauberg this year. Which is a 1.2km hill with an average of 6%.

We all know he stuffed up his winter prep last year. Why else do you think he's starting Down Under this year?
Ryo Hazuki wrote:horrible. boonen just the same guy as years before and this course is too hard for him. that's why he rode like a coward there were at least 3 guys stronger than boonen today and none of them won: sagan, ballan, pozzato


The Hitch wrote:Goss will woop boonens candy a[color="Black"]ss[/color] in a sprint he cares about, any day of the week
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19 Dec 2012 17:17

in 2011 this was gilbert. now it is sagan
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19 Dec 2012 17:17

El Pistolero wrote:Looked pretty unbeatable to me on the Cauberg this year. Which is a 1.2km hill with an average of 6%.

We all know he stuffed up his winter prep last year. Why else do you think he's starting Down Under this year?


how about giving another example of 2012?
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19 Dec 2012 17:26

Ryo Hazuki wrote:how about giving another example of 2012?


La Lastrilla in the Vuelta beating Valverde, Moreno and Rodriguez.

Let's see, 2 of those are in this poll. ;)

Oh, and Montjuic in Barcelona is another example.
Ryo Hazuki wrote:horrible. boonen just the same guy as years before and this course is too hard for him. that's why he rode like a coward there were at least 3 guys stronger than boonen today and none of them won: sagan, ballan, pozzato


The Hitch wrote:Goss will woop boonens candy a[color="Black"]ss[/color] in a sprint he cares about, any day of the week
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19 Dec 2012 17:52

to me a sprint is an effort that is so short that aerobic and even anaerobic capacity dont matter and thats about 30s max. However, Gilbert in top form should take this, he has demonstrated his extra power at the mur de huy as well as at lbl so 2km shouldnt be too long.
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19 Dec 2012 17:55

Gilbert, with Purito second. Sagan will be the best in a couple years and once Purito and Gilbert start to get older and lose their edge.
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19 Dec 2012 17:58

Afrank wrote:Gilbert, with Purito second. Sagan will be the best in a couple years and once Purito and Gilbert start to get older and lose their edge.


I would wait a little while longer with that prediction. In 2005 Boonen was God, but the playing field leveled somewhat with the breakthrough of Cancellara in 2006. Same could happen to Sagan.
Ryo Hazuki wrote:horrible. boonen just the same guy as years before and this course is too hard for him. that's why he rode like a coward there were at least 3 guys stronger than boonen today and none of them won: sagan, ballan, pozzato


The Hitch wrote:Goss will woop boonens candy a[color="Black"]ss[/color] in a sprint he cares about, any day of the week
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19 Dec 2012 18:23

El Pistolero wrote:I would wait a little while longer with that prediction. In 2005 Boonen was God, but the playing field leveled somewhat with the breakthrough of Cancellara in 2006. Same could happen to Sagan.


boonen wasn't anywhere near as god as sagan was when he was 22. boonen was also a cobble rider. sagan is so much more
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19 Dec 2012 18:31

phil. but sagan is dangerous
also ricky if he's cleared by cas :D
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19 Dec 2012 18:37

Ryo Hazuki wrote:boonen wasn't anywhere near as god as sagan was when he was 22. boonen was also a cobble rider. sagan is so much more


Trust me, the Boonen hype was pretty big back in 2005. Sagan might be so much more, but that doesn't mean much considering his focus remains Milan-San Remo, the Flemish classics and AGR. And if you don't believe me you can always look up his interviews for yourself I suppose.
Ryo Hazuki wrote:horrible. boonen just the same guy as years before and this course is too hard for him. that's why he rode like a coward there were at least 3 guys stronger than boonen today and none of them won: sagan, ballan, pozzato


The Hitch wrote:Goss will woop boonens candy a[color="Black"]ss[/color] in a sprint he cares about, any day of the week
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19 Dec 2012 18:49

boonen was 25 in 2005. sagan is something we've never seen before ever since perhaps god/vdb
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19 Dec 2012 19:06

Ryo Hazuki wrote:boonen was 25 in 2005. sagan is something we've never seen before ever since perhaps god/vdb


He was still 24 when he became world champ. ;)

Sagan will be 23 very soon. And yeah like I said, let's wait a little before we call him the best for the next 10 years because we all know what happened to VDB. Sadly. So you kinda agree if you forget my analogy. ;)
Ryo Hazuki wrote:horrible. boonen just the same guy as years before and this course is too hard for him. that's why he rode like a coward there were at least 3 guys stronger than boonen today and none of them won: sagan, ballan, pozzato


The Hitch wrote:Goss will woop boonens candy a[color="Black"]ss[/color] in a sprint he cares about, any day of the week
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19 Dec 2012 19:27

wasn't kreuziger supposed to be the next god back in 08 when he won the TdS only a month after turning 22?

to he honest with this eastern europeans guys i like to take it carefully :o
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19 Dec 2012 19:32

2 kms @ around 8%? I'm sticking with JRod.
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19 Dec 2012 19:36

on topic, imo gilbert is the best one on a normal year and on his 2011 he is the best by a laughable margin :o
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19 Dec 2012 20:11

Parrulo wrote:wasn't kreuziger supposed to be the next god back in 08 when he won the TdS only a month after turning 22?

to he honest with this eastern europeans guys i like to take it carefully :o


Sagan already won three Tour stages and the green jersey, and top 5 in 4 major classics. Even if he doesn't make any progress anymore, he'll still be a great cyclist.

Gilbert easily wins this imo. When he's on form nobody can hold his wheel on finishes like this.
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19 Dec 2012 20:13

:confused:
how about Simon Gerrans? Di luca ain't good anymore? Evans too old?

as far as the poll goes: Don Alejandro Valverde to me is the best uphill sprinter-he can do that during a GT, a week long race, classics -you name it.
Gilbert is very close to him, but panache is imprinted on the Spaniard :D
Sagan will take over in 2014
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19 Dec 2012 20:19

hfer07 wrote::confused:
how about Simon Gerrans? Di luca ain't good anymore? Evans too old?

as far as the poll goes: Don Alejandro Valverde to me is the best uphill sprinter-he can do that during a GT, a week long race, classics -you name it.
Gilbert is very close to him, but panache is imprinted on the Spaniard :D
Sagan will take over in 2014


So can Gilbert.
Ryo Hazuki wrote:horrible. boonen just the same guy as years before and this course is too hard for him. that's why he rode like a coward there were at least 3 guys stronger than boonen today and none of them won: sagan, ballan, pozzato


The Hitch wrote:Goss will woop boonens candy a[color="Black"]ss[/color] in a sprint he cares about, any day of the week
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19 Dec 2012 21:04

oh my:o...guys,Gilbert is not better uphill sprinter than Sagan,Purito or Valverde.He is excelent in dropping them in high percentages(above 6%) but in sprint he wont win against them.:rolleyes:

my ladder:
Valverde
Sagan
Purito
Gilbert
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