Tuarts wrote:People throw stupid words around like world class and elite all the time. Cavendish is a freak, a 'HC' sprinter. In a fair sprint with every top rider getting a chance, no one can get near him even if you are Cipo with a Zabel-Petacchi lead out train. The only other sprinter you can realistically call 'elite' at the moment is Greipel. There's a long and subjective gap back to whoever is third.
Sagan is a freak but he's only had one season of top line sprinting and may move away from that anyway.
Degenkolb needs an incline or hill and has faced the Quality of Opposition like he would in a Tour.
Kittel needs to stop being injured but he's on the upward, not there yet.
Pettachi is ready to get his Seniors card
Farrar has gone awol these last two seasons (for whatever reason).
The rest are either up coming talents or a bunch of B-grade sprinters
So Goss. Quite easily thrown in with those name and has shown and proven he can place highly and win a GT sprint. Being able to compete for the win is contesting, so movingtarget's original claim is just ignorance.
Sprinting is chaotic and a million things can go wrong. That's why even a rider like Cavendish doesn't have a perfect record. Trying to use him having the perfect day as a yardstick is stupid. Other sprinters can win and placing highly and consistently is a key indicator that he is has shown he is more than capable of.
'Perfect Day' arguists need to remember that on his day, Goss is less than a wheel off Cav, which not many current sprints can claim.
I did not say he couldn't compete, learn to read, but his lack of success = wins in 2012 was marked. You say on his day he gets close to Cav. Many times last year year he was thrashed, not even close. A class sprinter should be winning more often. I don't think placings were giving Goss much of a thrill last year according to his interviews. He sounded frustrated. I am not convinced he will be a bunch sprinter that will will win regularly like a younger McEwen etc. I am more convinced he could win some of the flatter classic races or sometimes a stage now and then. He might convince of his bunch sprinting if he returns to his pre 2012 form. I am happy to be proved wrong and I like watching him race.