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15 Jan 2013 15:20

Good to read all these posts about the Tour Down Under in the TDU thread
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15 Jan 2013 15:23

barmaher wrote:Apologies if I have missed where this is discussed, there are a lot of Boonen-Cav-Degenkolb posts to wade through.

Have we got a list of GC contenders?

The ones I have are as follows:

Gerrans / Clarke
Hansen
EBH / Thomas
Haas
Sorensen
Who from Astana?
Who from Movistar?
De Gendt?
Who from OPQS?
De Kort?

I am sure I am missing more than a few.....


Lampre: Lloyd
Radioshck: Machado
Blanco: Kelderman/The Dutch Butcher

Movistar: Perhaps Rojas if in 2011 form.
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15 Jan 2013 15:23

barmaher wrote:Apologies if I have missed where this is discussed, there are a lot of Boonen-Cav-Degenkolb posts to wade through.

Have we got a list of GC contenders?

The ones I have are as follows:

Gerrans / Clarke
Hansen
EBH / Thomas
Haas
Sorensen
Who from Astana?
Who from Movistar?
De Gendt?
Who from OPQS?
De Kort?

I am sure I am missing more than a few.....

Not just Haas from Garmin, they have a few more (Rohan Dennis, for instance). From Astana... Iglinskiy, I guess. From Movistar... maybe Visconti? OPQS have Velits.

Dazed and Confused wrote:Lampre: Lloyd
Radioshck: Machado
Blanco: Bobridge

Bobridge is there for domestique duties. The two Dutch kids are their leaders.
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15 Jan 2013 15:25

theyoungest wrote:Not just Haas from Garmin, they have a few more (Rohan Dennis, for instance). From Astana... Iglinskiy, I guess. From Movistar... maybe Visconti? OPQS have Velits.


Bobridge is there for domestique duties.


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15 Jan 2013 15:26

Dazed and Confused wrote:working for?

Like I added, the two Dutch kids. Slagter and Kelderman.

And Renshaw in the sprints, I guess.
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15 Jan 2013 15:45

So here is the list:

Gilbert
Gerrans / Clarke
Hansen
EBH / Thomas
Haas / Dennis
Sorensen
Iglinsky/Gasparotto
Visconti?
De Gendt?
Velits
De Kort?
Llloyd
Machado
Slagter/Kelderman?

I guess Gerrans and Gilbert would be favourites.

I think that Haas has a good chance, and I have a sneaky feeling that Geraint has a decent chance.
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15 Jan 2013 17:00

barmaher wrote:So here is the list:

Gilbert
Gerrans / Clarke
Hansen
EBH / Thomas
Haas / Dennis
Sorensen
Iglinsky/Gasparotto
Visconti?
De Gendt?
Velits
De Kort?
Llloyd
Machado
Slagter/Kelderman?

I guess Gerrans and Gilbert would be favourites.

I think that Haas has a good chance, and I have a sneaky feeling that Geraint has a decent chance.

Has Geraint Thomas ever done anything impressive on a steep hill (like in stage 2) or on a hill-top finish? I don't think he has. Furthermore, he's not fast enough to get bonus seconds either, so I really don't see how he'd win this race.
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15 Jan 2013 17:07

maltiv wrote:Has Geraint Thomas ever done anything impressive on a steep hill (like in stage 2) or on a hill-top finish? I don't think he has. Furthermore, he's not fast enough to get bonus seconds either, so I really don't see how he'd win this race.

He's just a reasonable climber with (reportedly) good form, he's not a bad bet for a top-5 or something. That hill on stage 2 is not the Mur de Huy.
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2013 Santos Tour Down Under

15 Jan 2013 18:17

How many cyclists can take part in 2013 Santos Tour Down Under event in this season ...?
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15 Jan 2013 18:58

theyoungest wrote:That hill on stage 2 is not the Mur de Huy.


it is, regarding its lenght and gradient it is more or less the same
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15 Jan 2013 19:25

Im hoping Tim Wellens can also show something guess he gets a free role as the rest of the team are all there for Greipel.
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15 Jan 2013 19:42

search wrote:it is, regarding its lenght and gradient it is more or less the same

On this vid it doesn't look that way (ignore the annoying dude who made this)
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15 Jan 2013 19:55

lol durian rider. . . . it's beyond me how manages to put so much BS into a 6 minute time frame :o

from listening to him you would think he was better then most pros, australia is the place pros go to train all year round and that a pro cyclist diet only consisted of coca cola and good "spoty" bananas. . . .

:Facepalm:

the hill looks good tho, hopefully we will see some fireworks
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15 Jan 2013 20:03

theyoungest wrote:On this vid it doesn't look that way (ignore the annoying dude who made this)


yep, true, the gps tracker said there was 1k at ~12% average, but it doesn't look that steep on the video. still, it's a nice little climb
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15 Jan 2013 20:23

Parrulo wrote:lol durian rider. . . . it's beyond me how manages to put so much BS into a 6 minute time frame :o

from listening to him you would thought he was better then most pros, australia is the place pros go to train all year round and that a pro cyclist diet only consisted of coca cola and good "spoty" bananas. . . .

:Facepalm:

the hill looks good tho, hopefully we will see some fireworks


Does he really say Coca Cola is good? I thought he was a health freak...
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15 Jan 2013 22:01

Anyone think that even stage 1 might catch the likes of Guardini & Kittel out?
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15 Jan 2013 22:13

Orbit501 wrote:Anyone think that even stage 1 might catch the likes of Guardini & Kittel out?


any profile involving some hills can potentially derail those two guys, especially Kittel if its hot and raced hard the entire distance.
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15 Jan 2013 22:25

Dazed and Confused wrote:any profile involving some hills can potentially derail those two guys, especially Kittel if its hot and raced hard the entire distance.

Nah, it's the TDU, and it's the first real race day of the season. Graeme Brown has won TDU stages hillier than that one.

What seems hard at local club rides is usually fairly doable for the pro peloton.
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15 Jan 2013 23:01

Parrulo wrote:lol durian rider. . . . it's beyond me how manages to put so much BS into a 6 minute time frame :o

from listening to him you would think he was better then most pros, australia is the place pros go to train all year round and that a pro cyclist diet only consisted of coca cola and good "spoty" bananas. . . .

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OMG that vid was hillarious. " these are tour de france riders.i had a 160k in my legs and they had 50. You see the guys at the back were struggling so i had to go around them"

:D

Still, if its legit, one must say chapeau for keeping it up with the pros.
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The Father of Clean Cycling, Christophe Bassons wrote:When I look at cycling today, I get the impression that history is repeating itself: riders who are supposed to be rouleurs are climbing passes at the front of the race, and those who are supposed to be climbers are riding time trials at more than 50 kilometres per hour.

The story is beginning again, just as it did 14 years ago


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15 Jan 2013 23:09

theyoungest wrote:Nah, it's the TDU, and it's the first real race day of the season. Graeme Brown has won TDU stages hillier than that one.

What seems hard at local club rides is usually fairly doable for the pro peloton.


i.e, allow 2-3 neo pros up the road early, ride at below 40km/h for 100km, wheel the break in for a bunch sprint. 10 minutes of racing if we are lucky.
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