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08 Jan 2013 19:45

Anyone mentioned the Schleck boys yet......:rolleyes:
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08 Jan 2013 19:47

Netserk wrote:Lol wut:confused:

It has *nothing* to do with him being Norwegian and me being Dane. In cobble races I cheer for Boonen (and have done so since I started watching them) even though he was the rival of Canc and CSC/Saxo. Likewise I also hate Fuglsang, and the only Danish rider I like is CAS, but that's only because he makes a funny face when racing. In the same way I like EBH as a stage hunter or in light hilly races.

And about football I could care any less. BOTH the Danish team as well as the Norwegian is total sh!t and play ugly.


I don't know what Hushovd had to say about it, but Boonen said he took a lot of risks taking that corner in the hope Hushovd would crash or leave a gap. He knew Hushovd was on the limit.

edit: oops, meant to quote Maltiv.
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08 Jan 2013 20:02

Siriuscat wrote:Anyone mentioned the Schleck boys yet......:rolleyes:


Just the usual pathetic Contador fan at it again, the Schlecks don't belong in this thread at all. Andy wants to do well in the Ardennes and the Tour. That's hardly too ambitious, but you are just looking for more ways to ridicule him. Wasn't Contador trying to do the impossible Giro-Tour double in 2011 btw? :p
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08 Jan 2013 20:11

The Hitch wrote:The lack of cobbled stages at the tdf ranks among aso's greatest crimes.

They've (aso) seen in 2010. that cobbles make controversy, and thought it's better to leave them out than to explain to fans why they (cobbles) were included in the first place.
Especially when the cobbles do their job.
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08 Jan 2013 20:24

Pentacycle wrote:Just the usual pathetic Contador fan at it again, the Schlecks don't belong in this thread at all. Andy wants to do well in the Ardennes and the Tour. That's hardly too ambitious, but you are just looking for more ways to ridicule him. Wasn't Contador trying to do the impossible Giro-Tour double in 2011 btw? :p


Oh no a scary Contador fan spoke again oh mummy!!

No Andy wants to win the in the Ardennes and the Tour, he's never going to win a GT on the road ergo he's being overly ambitious.

Yeah he did and looking at his placings a little more luck he might have pulled it off but in the end he didn't....at least he's willing to try!
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08 Jan 2013 20:33

Siriuscat wrote:Oh no a scary Contador fan spoke again oh mummy!!

No Andy wants to win the in the Ardennes and the Tour, he's never going to win a GT on the road ergo he's being overly ambitious.

Yeah he did and looking at his placings a little more luck he might have pulled it off but in the end he didn't....at least he's willing to try!


Andy will win a real GT on the road for sure, that would be just insane if not :o

Unless if he always starts riding the tour, then maybe but otherwise no.
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08 Jan 2013 20:40

Siriuscat wrote:Oh no a scary Contador fan spoke again oh mummy!!

No Andy wants to win the in the Ardennes and the Tour, he's never going to win a GT on the road ergo he's being overly ambitious.

Yeah he did and looking at his placings a little more luck he might have pulled it off but in the end he didn't....at least he's willing to try!


I know you've already made up your mind about Schleck, and that's what's bothering me.
He's lazy, and I didn't like him very much either until recently. But seeing that he comes back from a serious injury and that he's very motivated for 2013 I'll support him this year. And someone who won LBL at 24 years, and finished 2nd in the TdF three times in row when he was 26 has imo the right to aspire taking yellow home, even with a horrible 2012 behind him.(and even with horrible TT skills :D)
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08 Jan 2013 20:41

Siriuscat wrote:Oh no a scary Contador fan spoke again oh mummy!!

No Andy wants to win the in the Ardennes and the Tour, he's never going to win a GT on the road ergo he's being overly ambitious.

Yeah he did and looking at his placings a little more luck he might have pulled it off but in the end he didn't....at least he's willing to try!


Winning a GT and the Ardennes are in no way outside of Andy's abilities, he's proved time and time again he has what it takes to compete in a GT and in the Ardennes. Therefore he is not being overambitious.
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08 Jan 2013 20:45

Siriuscat wrote:No Andy wants to win the in the Ardennes and the Tour, he's never going to win a GT on the road ergo he's being overly ambitious.
A guy who's placed 2nd few times in the Tour cannot be qualified as 'overambitious'. Be serious.
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08 Jan 2013 20:53

Does anyone think Cancellara's ambition to win LBL and Lombardia is overambitious? He mentioned these goals couple of times.
Several years ago I thought it wasn't unfounded if he starts riding and studying them, but now I think it's overambitious.
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08 Jan 2013 21:18

Pentacycle wrote:I know you've already made up your mind about Schleck, and that's what's bothering me.
He's lazy, and I didn't like him very much either until recently. But seeing that he comes back from a serious injury and that he's very motivated for 2013 I'll support him this year. And someone who won LBL at 24 years, and finished 2nd in the TdF three times in row when he was 26 has imo the right to aspire taking yellow home, even with a horrible 2012 behind him.(and even with horrible TT skills :D)


I keep saying it...when he shows us something of that exceptional god given talent of his, i'll show some respect, until then it's wasted. I honestly think every time he opens his mouth he's being over ambitious, at times he's simply pathetic, Gap in 2011 as a prime example.

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08 Jan 2013 21:57

Dekker_Tifosi wrote:would be hilarious to see a PR without the cobble specialists but with only gc riders at the start.

PR, the battle between Contador, Henao, Evans, Hesjedal, Wiggins, A Schleck etc etc


Considering Wiggins got 25th at PR at Garmin. I'd think he'd ace it :p
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08 Jan 2013 22:10

serfla wrote:Does anyone think Cancellara's ambition to win LBL and Lombardia is overambitious? He mentioned these goals couple of times.
Several years ago I thought it wasn't unfounded if he starts riding and studying them, but now I think it's overambitious.


If Cancellara starts to target these, i.e enter them perhaps we can talk about having ambitions. For now its just empty talk.
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08 Jan 2013 22:22

Dazed and Confused wrote:If Cancellara starts to target these, i.e enter them perhaps we can talk about having ambitions. For now its just empty talk.

You're right. It's not even overambitious, it's just empty talk.
I thought, at the time, it's genuine ambition. He sounded sincerely.
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08 Jan 2013 22:59

This is a great thread. I would like to mention Frank Schleck when he talked about riding Flanders. Sometimes I think I was dreaming when I read that. I'm a huge fan of Frank but come on...:D
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08 Jan 2013 23:03

18-Valve. (pithy) wrote:I thought this would be easy when i learned that Fuglsang would be aiming for a top-10 in this year's TDF, but then Intxausti announced that he would target a top-3 at the Giro. Course, I'd still pick Fuglsang as the most overambitious between the two of them. :D


Intxausti at least was 6th last year just a few days from the end when he came down with a lung infection. If it's madness you're looking for Capecchi wants a top 3. Yes in the Giro.

And if I wanted to be mean I'd say Rojas and Ciolek insisting on trying to be sprinters
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08 Jan 2013 23:11

Contador, "I can win three GTs in a season."
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08 Jan 2013 23:27

Surprised no one's mentioned Bradley 'I'm going for Giro-Tour double' Wiggins yet :o
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08 Jan 2013 23:37

The Cobra wrote:Surprised no one's mentioned Bradley 'I'm going for Giro-Tour double' Wiggins yet :o

That's because we're frozen by thought that he might win it.
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09 Jan 2013 01:14

18-Valve. (pithy) wrote:Fuglsang climbed at a good level in that Dauphine, but hasn't been able to replicate that. His TT has improved to the detriment of his climbing. That's how he got those results in the Tour of Switzerland, by relying on his TT. It helps that that race doesn't have grueling mountain stages.

He was sort of consistent in the Vuelta, but other than that... he didn'tt impress in the mountain stages, let's put it that way.


So what is a realistic TdF gc goal for Fuglsang in your opinion?
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