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09 Jan 2013 02:07

Magnus wrote:So what is a realistic TdF gc goal for Fuglsang in your opinion?


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Perhaps he has improved but still we don't see it.

Top 15 will be a good goal for him.
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09 Jan 2013 02:24

Magnus wrote:Fuglsang has finished 3rd and 4th in TdS, 6th in Dauphine, 11th in Vuelta Espana.
Won several minor stageraces.

How is a top-10 in TdF overambitious?
Rather pathetic, i understand. Overly ambitious? Not so much.


Agree with Magnus andcineteq, Fuglsang by a country mile or Kilo. Some of the riders listed are only overabitious in select fan's eyes they are not singing that song like Fuglsang.
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09 Jan 2013 08:48

Steegmans had some serious ambitions for awhile. Back to earth now it seems.
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09 Jan 2013 10:39

Last year i would have said Hesjedal was overambitious when he said he could win the giro.

Don't really think Fuglsang is over ambitious he talking about gt top tens, i don't think that's is out of range og his potential.

Hesjedal Giro win last year also shows that it's not necesseraly a bad thing to be over ambitious if the right circumstances appear.
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09 Jan 2013 10:39

Magnus wrote:So what is a realistic TdF gc goal for Fuglsang in your opinion?


Top 20 maybe, if everything clicks and he is consistent throughout. Kitzbuheler Horn proved to me that his climbing is still lackluster. I actually expected a bit of an improvement, but not so. If he's all of a sudden a top-15 climber in the world's biggest race, that would be a tad bit suspect to me.

You could compare Fuglsang to Monfort. Monfort has the much better track record as far as GTs are concerned. He got 6th in that same Vuelta.
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09 Jan 2013 11:09

Fuglsang was climbing really well in his first pro year. I've never seen him at that level again.
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09 Jan 2013 11:11

Devolder was hilarious. He really believed he could win the TdF
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09 Jan 2013 12:51

Kris Boeckmans.
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09 Jan 2013 15:17

theyoungest wrote:Fuglsang was climbing really well in his first pro year. I've never seen him at that level again.


i always like to make a little fun of jakob. and people rightfully do so too
the truth is that i think he's extremely talented but probably suffers from the "too cute to suffer" syndrome just like di luca did until 2005.
fuglsang has in him a future grand tour contender and i don't mean just top 5,i mean podiums
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09 Jan 2013 15:33

I don't know. Even in 2009, he didn't really seem like a natural climber.
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09 Jan 2013 16:40

MagnusMagnussen wrote:Kris Boeckmans.


What about him?
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09 Jan 2013 16:41

roundabout wrote:I don't know. Even in 2009, he didn't really seem like a natural climber.

More like a natural climber than anything else, I would say.
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09 Jan 2013 17:41

theyoungest wrote:More like a natural climber than anything else, I would say.


He's a typical mountain biker, very good in individual efforts over shorter distances and classics, but he lacks endurance and recovery in a GT. You can compare him with Kessiakoff, a very good time trialist with decent climbing. They both have good classics results, but in GT's they're done after a week or two.
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