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01 Feb 2013 09:16

In the past one team that was very keen on keeping a high pace and creating echelons was Cervelo Test Team with Haussler. Perhaps Haussler and IAM can bring a similar attitude now. Sky have been a bit unsteady in the past in cross winds but perhaps Rasch who is a cross winds expert can bring some steadyness to them now.
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01 Feb 2013 10:19

Like Taylor Phinney for a podium, not sure of BMC TTT ability though.
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01 Feb 2013 11:35

seems to be confusion as to Stage 2. Some say Team Time Trial, others say Time Trial.

I think it's the latter.
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01 Feb 2013 12:03

wheelie1977 wrote:seems to be confusion as to Stage 2. Some say Team Time Trial, others say Time Trial.

I think it's the latter.

Official site says Team TT.
http://www.letour.com/2013/TQA/COURSE/us/le_parcours.html
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01 Feb 2013 12:04

wheelie1977 wrote:seems to be confusion as to Stage 2. Some say Team Time Trial, others say Time Trial.

I think it's the latter.


First rider/team starts

14:45

Last starts:

15:36

And estimated 14 kms in 16 minutes

It can only be a TTT
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01 Feb 2013 12:05

wheelie1977 wrote:seems to be confusion as to Stage 2. Some say Team Time Trial, others say Time Trial.

I think it's the latter.


On the official site it says TTT

http://www.letour.fr/2013/TQA/LIVE/us/le_parcours.html
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01 Feb 2013 16:01

its a TTT but using road bikes to keep costs down
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01 Feb 2013 17:16

Der Effe wrote:As for Blanco, aren't they invited or are they just ignoring this race? I hope for the latter, as European and US based teams (Aussie teams too tbh) should be ignoring snoozefests like these. Wanna race on the other side of the world? Then give Australia some more races, they actually have been producing top cyclists for some time now. I can't imagine one team being really happy about having just to cycle this race knowing they're Pat's b**tch.


You can't be more wrong. The race is not a boring snoozefest as you suggest and Cobbed classics contenders love to ride here as a build up for the cobbled races.
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Who will win?

01 Feb 2013 18:50

Are there bonus seconds? Will a sprinter be winner in the end?
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01 Feb 2013 19:16

KarottenKarl wrote:Are there bonus seconds? Will a sprinter be winner in the end?

Yes. Probably a strong, surviving sprinter who can get some bonus seconds and never lose out in the crosswinds. E.g. Degenkolb, Haussler, EBH or Bennati. The purer sprinters, like Cavendish or Guardini, are usually dropped in the crosswinds on one or several stages.
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01 Feb 2013 21:02

maltiv wrote:Yes. Probably a strong, surviving sprinter who can get some bonus seconds and never lose out in the crosswinds. E.g. Degenkolb, Haussler, EBH or Bennati. The purer sprinters, like Cavendish or Guardini, are usually dropped in the crosswinds on one or several stages.


:p He doesn't get dropped all the time, and he showed good form in San Luis.

It's clear to me who's gonna win MSR, if you see this next week:

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01 Feb 2013 21:23

Pentacycle wrote::p He doesn't get dropped all the time, and he showed good form in San Luis.

It's clear to me who's gonna win MSR, if you see this next week:

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01 Feb 2013 22:51

Pentacycle wrote::p He doesn't get dropped all the time, and he showed good form in San Luis.

It's clear to me who's gonna win MSR, if you see this next week:

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MSR is somewhat unpredictable these days, Cav was red hot favorite last year nad last over Le Maine :D
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02 Feb 2013 09:12

Sagan will win MSR! It is known!
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02 Feb 2013 09:21

karaev wrote:Sagan will win MSR! It is known!


the race is tailor made for him. He can drop everyone apart from cancellara in the descent and whoever he arrives to the finish with will get cooked in the sprint. For the likes of cavendish and boonen, they ll probably get dropped during the poggio.

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02 Feb 2013 09:27

Some intersting odds for Tour of Qatar winner

17.00 Degenkolb

41.00 Modollo

3.75 Cav

5.50 Hagen

101.0 Breaschel

51.00 Bouhani

101.0 Viviani

Any sugestions for who I should spend my money on?

Also some stage 1 duels look good like Guardini 2.60 odss to beat Viviani

Phinney to beat Gearint 1.95

Bennati 2.10 to beat Haussler

Hagen 2.50/Degenkolb 1.50

Cav1.30 /Modolo 3.40

This are the most intersting but here are the complete list http://www.bet365.com/home/FlashGen4...&cb=1088164932 and http://ro.unibet.com/betting#/group/.../category/1235
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02 Feb 2013 09:35

the asian wrote:You can't be more wrong. The race is not a boring snoozefest as you suggest and Cobbed classics contenders love to ride here as a build up for the cobbled races.


It's not like they have so many other options, isn't it? It's all about the money, in 10 years they'll be racing on the moon. The rule should always be that in order to get races, you will have to produce decent athletes first.
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02 Feb 2013 09:38

Der Effe wrote:It's not like they have so many other options, isn't it? It's all about the money, in 10 years they'll be racing on the moon. The rule should always be that in order to get races, you will have to produce decent athletes first.


You wont get athletes without the races and above all you wont get races without money.
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02 Feb 2013 09:53

Veelers was verry good here last year.
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02 Feb 2013 10:07

Here we go again :mad::mad::eek::eek:
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