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07 Feb 2013 20:14

Eshnar wrote:Wait. I only gave a 6/10 rating to the Giro route. I'm judging the routes. Don't give a fu** about who designes them.

It wasn't directed to you.
It's something that underpins the opinion of wide cycling audience, I have impression. Just go through the history of this forum and I'm sure you'll notice the same.
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07 Feb 2013 20:38

I can only imagine there is a reason why more and more big guys decide to ride T-A.
"The second place is not good."
The great Alberto Contador :p
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07 Feb 2013 20:41

LaFlorecita wrote:I can only imagine there is a reason why more and more big guys decide to ride T-A.

Yes, there is. Better weather and M-SR.
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07 Feb 2013 20:43

serfla wrote:Yes, there is. Better weather and M-SR.

Wasn't there also better weather and M-SR 5-10 years ago?
Cancellara is like The Black Album. Really good but way overrated.
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07 Feb 2013 20:45

Yea, or maybe the top guys just like the race better because of a lot of reasons INCLUDING the route.
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07 Feb 2013 20:49

Netserk wrote:Wasn't there also better weather and M-SR 5-10 years ago?


Maybe I am wrong, but wasn't TA a Tour of Quatar back then?
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07 Feb 2013 20:50

LaFlorecita wrote:I can only imagine there is a reason why more and more big guys decide to ride T-A.

Less controls? ;)

Kidding aside, Paris-Nice is known for its nervousness, echelons, crashes, and bad weather. David Millar described it as an addictive kind of hell on earth, or something like that.
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07 Feb 2013 20:53

theyoungest wrote:Less controls? ;)

Kidding aside, Paris-Nice is known for its nervousness, echelons, crashes, and bad weather. David Millar described it as an addictive kind of hell on earth, or something like that.

That was also the case a couple of years ago, when P-N was the most popular race.

The only thing that has recently changed is the routes.
Cancellara is like The Black Album. Really good but way overrated.
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07 Feb 2013 21:18

I still remember the last time montagne de lure was done.

Now that was a great ride :D
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07 Feb 2013 21:23

Miburo wrote:I still remember the last time montagne de lure was done.

Now that was a great ride :D


and now it will be TJVG and Talansky going up the incline.

Will Valverde ride P-N?
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07 Feb 2013 21:23

Netserk wrote:Wasn't there also better weather and M-SR 5-10 years ago?

Yes, there was. But the character of the race was different. And category, I think.
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07 Feb 2013 21:35

Dazed and Confused wrote:and now it will be TJVG and Talansky going up the incline.

Will Valverde ride P-N?


No. Different schedule. Won't ride T/A either.
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07 Feb 2013 21:42

the asian wrote:No. Different schedule. Won't ride T/A either.


damn, this whole thing could be one big coal fired train. What about Henao for some step dance with Gesink?

(thanks)
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07 Feb 2013 21:45

Dazed and Confused wrote:damn, this whole thing could be one big coal fired train. What about Henao for some step dance with Gesink?

(thanks)


Henao,Gesnik, Rui Costa, westra, DeGendt all would have a chance.
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07 Feb 2013 21:45

if in last year's condition, westra should take this
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07 Feb 2013 21:47

Dazed and Confused wrote:and now it will be TJVG and Talansky going up the incline.

Will Valverde ride P-N?


TJVG riding away from every1 on that climb, or any climb as matter of fact, seems very unlikely to me.

i would certainly have gesink, henao and costa as bigger favourites for the win there then TJVG.
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07 Feb 2013 21:49

serfla wrote:Yes, there was. But the character of the race was different. And category, I think.

nope.

The only thing that has changed is the route, so perhaps a lot of the starts choose T-A because of the route.
Cancellara is like The Black Album. Really good but way overrated.
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07 Feb 2013 22:00

Parrulo wrote:TJVG riding away from every1 on that climb, or any climb as matter of fact, seems very unlikely to me.



yes, diesels. Not chance of surprises.
It will take serious racing by Gesink, Henao, De Gendt and Rui Costa to derail the train on 6%, but lets see.
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07 Feb 2013 22:07

Dazed and Confused wrote:yes, diesels. Not chance of surprises.
It will take serious racing by Gesink, Henao, De Gendt and Rui Costa to derail the train on 6%, but lets see.


[img]http://catenacycling.com/frontend/files/media/routes/8685/8b/7k28517ls0g8gc80o84s0wk-montagne_de_lure_profile.jpg[/img]

The middle part of the climb offers an opportunity for an attack though. If you're strong, a 9% gradient should be enough to create some gaps.

Btw De Gendt is a diesel too, if he's not on the attack.
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07 Feb 2013 22:17

Pentacycle wrote:[img]http://catenacycling.com/frontend/files/media/routes/8685/8b/7k28517ls0g8gc80o84s0wk-montagne_de_lure_profile.jpg[/img]

The middle part of the climb offers an opportunity for an attack though. If you're strong, a 9% gradient should be enough to create some gaps.

Btw De Gendt is a diesel too, if he's not on the attack.


thanks. At least the finish is @ 1600M.

Agree, De Gendt must attack earlier on the stage somehow.
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