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13 Feb 2013 19:59

Im not saying that only 2 people will start. I know that milan san remo is a lottery race. I mean who would have thought gerrans would win. All Im saying is that the race is tailor made for sagan and cancellara can beat him since he has more experience. Whilst the former can sprint well, the latter can hold off the peleton and other contenders by time trialing away.
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13 Feb 2013 20:01

theyoungest wrote:I don't know if you remember Cav's win, but that was a pretty impressive sprint. If he arrives with the same kind of form, why not.


If Cav arrives with sagan to the finish then yes he will beat him since his sprint is obviously better than sagan's on the flat. But if Sagan attacks on the descent or poggio then it'll be very hard to catch him unless you have about three team mates chasing for you.
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13 Feb 2013 20:08

anyone still thinking cav makes any sort of chance in msr, since the new course a few years back, is completely dilusional, but be my guest I'll be laughing my *** off again when laying him at x2 odds like last year :L
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13 Feb 2013 20:10

Ryo Hazuki wrote:anyone still thinking cav makes any sort of chance in msr, since the new course a few years back, is completely dilusional, but be my guest I'll be laughing my *** off again when laying him at x2 odds like last year :L


New course has nothing to do with this. Cav's 2009 season kind of reminds me of Cipo in 2002 to be honest.
Ryo Hazuki wrote:horrible. boonen just the same guy as years before and this course is too hard for him. that's why he rode like a coward there were at least 3 guys stronger than boonen today and none of them won: sagan, ballan, pozzato


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13 Feb 2013 20:11

gruppeto993 wrote:If Cav arrives with sagan to the finish then yes he will beat him since his sprint is obviously better than sagan's on the flat. But if Sagan attacks on the descent or poggio then it'll be very hard to catch him unless you have about three team mates chasing for you.


Before that Cav's going to have to make it to the top of the Poggio with the lead group as well. Which is easier said than done. In fact he'll have to make it to the base of the Poggio with the peloton before that, wasn't he dropped on Le Manie last year? :o
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13 Feb 2013 20:13

Why is milan san remo being discussed in Tour of Algrave thread?! Perhaps people can't wait for these early stage races to be over.
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13 Feb 2013 20:13

El Pistolero wrote:New course has nothing to do with this. Cav's 2009 season kind of reminds me of Cipo in 2002 to be honest.


of course it has. he drops there every year. even if rode slowly riders all feel it in their lergs after 300 km especially.
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13 Feb 2013 20:14

Ryo Hazuki wrote:of course it has. he drops there every year. even if rode slowly riders all feel it in their lergs after 300 km especially.


He didn't get dropped on Le Manie in 2009. ;)
Ryo Hazuki wrote:horrible. boonen just the same guy as years before and this course is too hard for him. that's why he rode like a coward there were at least 3 guys stronger than boonen today and none of them won: sagan, ballan, pozzato


The Hitch wrote:Goss will woop boonens candy a[color="Black"]ss[/color] in a sprint he cares about, any day of the week
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13 Feb 2013 20:21

Ryo Hazuki wrote:of course it has. he drops there every year. even if rode slowly riders all feel it in their lergs after 300 km especially.


Wasn't Le Manie in the 2009 edition?
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13 Feb 2013 20:25

El Pistolero wrote:So only 2 people will start Milan-San Remo? :o

MSR is a lottery race, there are a lot of possible scenario's. Sagan could've won last year as well.


Yes,he could.IMO if there wasnt Nibali,Sagan could have won...I dont have anything against Vincenzo but he s****ed it for Liqui.

Edit:sorry for OT,theendfor OT
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13 Feb 2013 20:28

2009 wasn't raced as hard imho, that's why there were so many survivors too
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13 Feb 2013 20:36

Shame Steegman's broke his finger; would have been a first chance to see a potential first choice leadout train (Tony, Chav, Gert).
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13 Feb 2013 20:39

El Pistolero wrote:New course has nothing to do with this. Cav's 2009 season kind of reminds me of Cipo in 2002 to be honest.


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13 Feb 2013 20:41

gruppeto993 wrote:If Cav arrives with sagan to the finish then yes he will beat him since his sprint is obviously better than sagan's on the flat. But if Sagan attacks on the descent or poggio then it'll be very hard to catch him unless you have about three team mates chasing for you.


Wasn't Cav dispatched earlier in his last appearance at MSR such that it appeared that a formula was established to eliminate him from contention in the future? Why would his competitors' teams deviate from that?
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13 Feb 2013 20:48

Ryo Hazuki wrote:anyone still thinking cav makes any sort of chance in msr, since the new course a few years back, is completely dilusional, but be my guest I'll be laughing my *** off again when laying him at x2 odds like last year :L

The course is exactly the same as it was when Cav won.
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13 Feb 2013 20:55

Waterloo Sunrise wrote:Shame Steegman's broke his finger; would have been a first chance to see a potential first choice leadout train (Tony, Chav, Gert).


steegmans can't lead out
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13 Feb 2013 21:08

Back to Algarve

Do you think the U23 bronze medalist Tom Van Asbroeck could have a chance to a top 5 in the sprint?

Also Manuel Cardoso will do a good job tomorrow in the sprint IMO.
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13 Feb 2013 22:30

They are doing Malhao TWICE....and that stage is always a killer.
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13 Feb 2013 22:33

Cycle Chic wrote:They are doing Malhao TWICE....and that stage is always a killer.

It's basically very rough terrain even without proper climbs.
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14 Feb 2013 00:08

ILovecycling wrote:Do you really think Cav thinks he can beat Sagan?


Sagan is a beast... But if cav makes it to the finish line, NO ONE will beat him. Look at that kick in 2009.
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