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15 Feb 2013 10:45

Housoe wrote:Actually this is a golden chance for UCI to kick Riis and the saxo boys out of the sport.


If they want that why didn't they do it when they got the chance? They kicked out Katusha so they could have FDJ, lotto, argos AND saxo in WT
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15 Feb 2013 10:46

UCI: WT will have 18 teams.

"Es decir, los expedientes de AG2R La Mondiale, Euskaltel-Euskadi, Blanco Pro Cycling Team (ex Rabobank), Garmin-Sharp, Team Argos-Shimano, Team Saxo-Tinkoff y el propio Katusha volverían a ser valorados y a seis de esos siete les sería concedida una licencia, aclaraban desde la UCI a BiciCiclismo."

http://www.biciciclismo.com/cas/site/noticias-ficha.asp?id=58067
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15 Feb 2013 10:49

Can't we just kick McQuaid out? The best possible option for the sport
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15 Feb 2013 10:49

cineteq wrote:UCI: WT will have 18 teams.

"Es decir, los expedientes de AG2R La Mondiale, Euskaltel-Euskadi, Blanco Pro Cycling Team (ex Rabobank), Garmin-Sharp, Team Argos-Shimano, Team Saxo-Tinkoff y el propio Katusha volverían a ser valorados y a seis de esos siete les sería concedida una licencia, aclaraban desde la UCI a BiciCiclismo."

http://www.biciciclismo.com/cas/site/noticias-ficha.asp?id=58067


2005 provides a good precedent.

Phonak reinstated by CAS and no other teams cut for the year:

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_2-2-2005_pg2_13
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15 Feb 2013 10:51

If they decide to kick out a team now, that's a huge joke. What are they gonna do with the races where wildcards already have been awarded? That's a lot of (big) races.

And surely the team kicked out will appeal to CAS and then what?
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15 Feb 2013 10:52

Housoe wrote:Any team kicked out now would fight.
A lot of races are overdue for wildcard aplications, so it would basically destroy that teams whole season, with no chance of recovery.
In my opinion to kick a team out now would basically destroy it.

Actually this is a golden chance for UCI to kick Riis and the saxo boys out of the sport.


And why is that? Riis and Saxo did something other teams, DS, owners, docs, wifes, mechanics, bus drivers or masseurs didnt do?

Get your head straight, then ban every team and owner in the peloton, no wait, ban cycling in its present form, ban everybody.
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15 Feb 2013 10:53

Red Rick wrote:Can't we just kick McQuaid out? The best possible option for the sport


Yes please
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15 Feb 2013 10:53

peterst6906 wrote:2005 provides a good precedent.

Phonak reinstated by CAS and no other teams cut for the year:

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_2-2-2005_pg2_13


AG2R La Mondiale, Euskaltel-Euskadi, Blanco Pro Cycling Team, Garmin-Sharp, Team Argos-Shimano, Team Saxo-Tinkoff and Katusha will be reassessed, and one will be kicked out.
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15 Feb 2013 10:54

Hugo Koblet wrote:If they decide to kick out a team now, that's a huge joke. What are they gonna do with the races where wildcards already have been awarded? That's a lot of (big) races.

And surely the team kicked out will appeal to CAS and then what?


Its called regulating and managing the sport, the UCI way.

Phat better call Hein to see if he can help.
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15 Feb 2013 10:54

Ruudz0r wrote:Yes please


We can start a petition right here
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15 Feb 2013 11:02

cineteq wrote:AG2R La Mondiale, Euskaltel-Euskadi, Blanco Pro Cycling Team, Garmin-Sharp, Team Argos-Shimano, Team Saxo-Tinkoff and Katusha will be reassessed, and one will be kicked out.


good bye argos you will be missed:(





:p
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15 Feb 2013 11:03

cineteq wrote:AG2R La Mondiale, Euskaltel-Euskadi, Blanco Pro Cycling Team, Garmin-Sharp, Team Argos-Shimano, Team Saxo-Tinkoff and Katusha will be reassessed, and one will be kicked out.


only good thing to come out of this is no wildcard for argos. they are a joke anyway and katusha won;t be reassessed. they are in, that's the whole point of the cas decisison
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15 Feb 2013 11:04

Another case that shows the total incompetence of the UCI. Is there anyone who can start a lawsuit against Pat and his friends to get them kicked out?

And do they seriously believe they can kick a team out of the WT at this point? That wouldn't be a problem for CAS? Where they obviously will end up again.
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15 Feb 2013 11:04

Away with Argos!

Great decision
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15 Feb 2013 11:07

jens_attacks wrote:good bye argos you will be missed:(





:p


Please Argos out
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15 Feb 2013 11:09

Hugo Koblet wrote:If they decide to kick out a team now, that's a huge joke. What are they gonna do with the races where wildcards already have been awarded? That's a lot of (big) races.

And surely the team kicked out will appeal to CAS and then what?


Given it is the UCI.
UCI kick a team out, the team appeals to CAS, CAS reinstates them
UCI kick another team out, the team appeals to CAS, CAS reinstates them
UCI kick another team out, the team appeals to CAS, CAS reinstates them
UCI kick another team out, the team appeals to CAS, CAS reinstates them
UCI kick another team out, the team appeals to CAS, CAS reinstates them
UCI kick another team out, the team appeals to CAS, CAS reinstates them
UCI kick another team out, the team appeals to CAS, CAS reinstates them
UCI kick another team out, the team appeals to CAS, CAS reinstates them
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15 Feb 2013 11:17

Anything the UCI do will result in an appeal to CAS it would seem. I would have thought 19 WT teams is a no-no as they won't get the races to drop a wildcard place. Less riders will see complaints from all of the current WT teams if they are sensible and an extra 9 riders on the road just isn't feasible. There are already many people saying the peloton is too large.

Also, remember that hotels etc. have already been booked for riders and team personnel and probably assigned. It may not actually be logistically possible to have another team in races by now.

Surely this calls for a whole review of the licencing system, with clear, defined guidelines and a transparent process?
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15 Feb 2013 11:20

LaFlorecita wrote:Please Argos out


Panda Claws wrote:Away with Argos!

Great decision


jens_attacks wrote:good bye argos you will be missed:( :p
UCI will surprise us by kicking out The Carrots. :D
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15 Feb 2013 11:25

cineteq wrote:AG2R La Mondiale, Euskaltel-Euskadi, Blanco Pro Cycling Team, Garmin-Sharp, Team Argos-Shimano, Team Saxo-Tinkoff and Katusha will be reassessed, and one will be kicked out.


[conspiracy theory]

Which team is headed by a man who helped bring down a man that the UCI had been corruptly protecting for many years?
Time for payback.

[/conspiracy theory]
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15 Feb 2013 11:26

surely they just remove the lowest rated team in the WT?

Saxo?
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