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20 Aug 2013 10:28

LaFlorecita wrote:Samu to Saxo please please please please.


Whats he going to do on Saxo?

There appear to be enough mountain support. Now the team needs to get something out of Contador for 2014. Thats the key issue.

Instead the team should be looking to beef up the cobbles group.
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20 Aug 2013 10:31

A couple will probably end up at equipo de Stephens.
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20 Aug 2013 10:47

Dazed and Confused wrote:Whats he going to do on Saxo?

There appear to be enough mountain support. Now the team needs to get something out of Contador for 2014. Thats the key issue.

Instead the team should be looking to beef up the cobbles group.


Giro, Vuelta, Classics and stage hunting, counter attacking 2nd leader at Tour...take your pick.
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20 Aug 2013 10:54

karlboss wrote:Giro, Vuelta, Classics and stage hunting, counter attacking 2nd leader at Tour...take your pick.


meh, there are plenty of resources already, some on 2-3 year contracts. Samu will not be a game changer on Saxo.
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20 Aug 2013 10:57

Better outperform Majka in the Vuelta then.
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20 Aug 2013 10:58

Dazed and Confused wrote:meh, there are plenty of resources already, some on 2-3 year contracts. Samu will not be a game changer on Saxo.


Not a game changer I agree.
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20 Aug 2013 11:21

Poels to either Garmin or Greenedge.

If it's Garmin, that team might consider taking a Dutch license. They're more Dutch than Argos.
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20 Aug 2013 11:35

theyoungest wrote:Poels to either Garmin or Greenedge.

If it's Garmin, that team might consider taking a Dutch license. They're more Dutch than Argos.


Maaskant will not get a new contract though. What about the Kreders? Wil both stay with Garmin?
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20 Aug 2013 11:46

search wrote:Maaskant will not get a new contract though. What about the Kreders? Wil both stay with Garmin?

Michel Kreder will ride the Vuelta, so I guess they'll keep him. Raymond, I don't know.
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20 Aug 2013 11:55

theyoungest wrote:Michel Kreder will ride the Vuelta, so I guess they'll keep him. Raymond, I don't know.


He extended his contract to 2014 earlier this year(source), but he's had a difficult season so far.
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20 Aug 2013 13:06

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20 Aug 2013 15:37

theyoungest wrote:Poels to either Garmin or Greenedge.

If it's Garmin, that team might consider taking a Dutch license. They're more Dutch than Argos.


Both interesting possibilities. He'd have more opportunities to lead at Greenedge - in fact he'd presumably go right to the top of their very very short list of guys who lead when the road goes uphill. But I think he'd also fit well at Garmin, particularly as they have a lot of decent climbers who are retiring or getting old. I like Poels a lot and hope to see him progress at either team.

Presumably Garmin's existing Dutch "colony" make the team quite attractive to yet more Dutchies, so it becomes sort of self-perpetuating.

Actually, while on the subject of Poels, does anyone know why he doesn't seem to feature much at the hilly classics so far? On paper, I'd have thought he'd be very good there.
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20 Aug 2013 15:56

Zinoviev Letter wrote:Both interesting possibilities. He'd have more opportunities to lead at Greenedge - in fact he'd presumably go right to the top of their very very short list of guys who lead when the road goes uphill. But I think he'd also fit well at Garmin, particularly as they have a lot of decent climbers who are retiring or getting old. I like Poels a lot and hope to see him progress at either team.

Presumably Garmin's existing Dutch "colony" make the team quite attractive to yet more Dutchies, so it becomes sort of self-perpetuating.

Actually, while on the subject of Poels, does anyone know why he doesn't seem to feature much at the hilly classics so far? On paper, I'd have thought he'd be very good there.

He can't handle the distance, or any sort of really hard race actually. All his results have come on slow approach-fast uphill type stages.
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20 Aug 2013 16:04

theyoungest wrote:He can't handle the distance, or any sort of really hard race actually. All his results have come on slow approach-fast uphill type stages.


Ah, I hadn't realised that. Is there any chance that he'll get better at long/hard races as he gets a bit older? Or is he so bad at really hard stuff that no realistic improvement would be enough?

Even if he doesn't, there are plenty of stages like that in cycling I suppose (half of the Vuelta for instance).
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20 Aug 2013 16:07

The market is completely flooded with second and third tier GC riders and climbers. Must be some bargains to be had considering there's so many available:

Costa, Nieve, Anton, S. Sanchez, LL. Sanchez, Poels, De Gendt, Scarponi, Brajkovic, Monfort, Kloden, Horner, Frank, Landa, J. Moreno, Machado etc
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20 Aug 2013 16:12

Zinoviev Letter wrote:Ah, I hadn't realised that. Is there any chance that he'll get better at long/hard races as he gets a bit older? Or is he so bad at really hard stuff that no realistic improvement would be enough?

Even if he doesn't, there are plenty of stages like that in cycling I suppose (half of the Vuelta for instance).

I don't know, Vacansoleil doesn't strike me as the team with the best training for every circumstance, so maybe we'll see next year. He still seems quite immature as a rider (although he isn't that young).
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20 Aug 2013 16:45

Michele wrote:Lampre having the cash for Rui Costa? Now that's funny! :p


lampre always have more then enough money. their budget is far from the lowest in the wt.
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20 Aug 2013 16:46

Praetor wrote:I think Sky is in the midfield when talking budgets.


pls don't think ever again
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20 Aug 2013 16:48

Arredondo wrote:Trek and AG2R really want to sign Julian David Arredondo.

Would be a great signing, spectaculair climber.


he's not really a climber. he's a true puncher and monster in the hills. about as explosive as they come
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20 Aug 2013 16:51

Pharazon wrote:yet that's one of the main reasons why Bos has failed for years


the reason bos fails for so many years is because he's not a worthy wt rider. no entire team can help him get over climbs and place himself for a sprint. his placing is about the worst of any sprinter alive
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