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01 May 2019 03:33

Hopefully if this form carries through and he goes to the Giro it's good enough for him to be of some help to Landa.
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01 May 2019 05:41

hammerthaim wrote:
We saw it last year in the Giro. He's on his way to an almost anonymous top-20 without being of any significant help to his team leader.

He didn't finish 15e at Liege last year though. We'll see today, but he looks good for now.
Last year, however, the weather conditions were much better. We all know Betancur copes very well with cold and bad weather, so maybe it gives a little bit a distorted picture. Nonetheless, you are not 15th at Liege only because of the weather, so yes, his form is there.

In general, he looks better than the previous years. The way he rides through the peloton (I refer to Omloop), his interviews, his win in Klasika Amorebieta, ...

Regarding his program, I see he is on the provisional startlist for the Giro. With Valverde unsure, he will probably start. I'm not too happy about this. In the interview after Amorebieta, he clearly stated: Romandie - altitude - Dauphiné - build up to Vuelta as his program. Was this his own wish, or did the Movistar staff change their minds? If the latter, this is very short term thinking.
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01 May 2019 13:29

Popchu don't sweat it. We have seen how training camps or training blocks work for Betancur. As I said before, he would be better off going to the Giro in order to be good at the Vuelta.
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01 May 2019 20:08

He has done lots of training blocks this year. I don't know if he gets burn out from spending too much time at races or even in Europe for that matter.

I would send him to Romandie - Dauphine, but you never know.
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04 May 2019 01:05

After watching him today, I think he has a good chance of winning the Tour of Romandie. What a turnaround. He is the poster rider of contract year LOL
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04 May 2019 01:09

gospina wrote:After watching him today, I think he has a good chance of winning the Tour of Romandie. What a turnaround. He is the poster rider of contract year LOL



I also think this is one of those, never give him more than a one year contract at a time.
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04 May 2019 07:18

My Spanish is very, very limited but I understand Marca is also torn between the decision whether to send him to the Giro, and take advantage of his current form, or don't overload his program and target other races this year, with a chance of disappearing again and throw away all the work done over the last few months.

But, he's not going to the Giro according to this article?

https://www.marca.com/ciclismo/giro-italia/2019/05/03/5ccacc2ce5fdea607b8b45a4.html
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04 May 2019 09:52

They do conclude that the logic dictates he should do the Giro.
Con estos números y las buenas prestaciones que ya ha alcanzado, lo lógico sería que estuviera en la nómina del Giro, lo que le colocaría a 51 días de competición a 2 de junio, en caso de que finalizara la ronda rosa.
But, in general, the writer expressed his concerns how he does great after a block of race days, and then throws away 15k quality Kms by disappearing.
Notice, though, that in the same outlet, Lastras named Amador as Valverde's replacement.
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04 May 2019 10:26

I think you skip the Giro, keep him on a short leash and bring him to TdF. Theres a looong way to the Vuelta
"Es el mejor con y sin" - someone very bright on Valverde.
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04 May 2019 20:21

How do you keep a professional on a short leash? forcing him?
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04 May 2019 22:30

Escarabajo wrote:How do you keep a professional on a short leash? forcing him?

Dno. Try to let him train with someone, race a few races here and there and not let him completely out of sight. Its ridiculous, if you didn't know better you'd think I talked about a little baby, but its the reality when it comes to this guy.
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15 Jun 2019 12:49

Curious to see in what shape he arrives in Suisse. Should be good!
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Today 02:55

15e today. Seems to be a theme for the year so far.
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