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Is Anna Solovey Hanna Solovey ?

23 Sep 2014 17:16

Anna Solovey of the Ukraine got the Silver in the women's ITT today. Is she the same as Hanna Solovey 31 01 1992 of the Ukraine who tested positive at 19 in her first senior event the Tour of Chongming Island and then had a two year ban ?
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23 Sep 2014 18:16

According to her French wiki, yes.
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23 Sep 2014 18:25

Yes, but that was before the new clean era in cycling.
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23 Sep 2014 18:28

Freddythefrog wrote:Anna Solovey of the Ukraine got the Silver in the women's ITT today. Is she the same as Hanna Solovey 31 01 1992 of the Ukraine who tested positive at 19 in her first senior event the Tour of Chongming Island and then had a two year ban ?


Yes. Anna Solovey, Ganna Solovey and Hanna Solovey are all the same person.

The culprit is the Cyrillic letter Г. In Russian it represents [g], in Ukrainian it represents [h], and as [h] is seldom present in French, when she registered in France it was lost in pronunciation yielding "Hanna" pronounced "Anna".

She came back after the ban and started destroying ITTs and raised a lot of eyebrows doing so, couldn't get a pro contract though so it seems like there was some concern among teams about her. This year her only UCI-rated results are a win in the Chrono Champénois and a silver today.
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23 Sep 2014 18:31

so this year she raced just once before the Worlds ITT and pretty much ended up crushing the entire field (bar one):

1 BRENNAUER Lisa GER 0:38:48,16 (45,615 km/h)
2 SOLOVEY Anna UKR + 18,68
3 STEVENS Evelyn USA + 21,25
4 KROEGER Mieke GER + 38,29
5 DUYCK Ann-Sofie BEL + 45,31
6 CANUEL Karol-Ann CAN + 51,26
7 VAN DIJK Ellen NED + 1:11,64
8 POWERS Alison USA + 1:14,17
9 VILLUMSEN Linda Melanie NZL + 1:14,28
10 WORRACK Trixi GER + 1:15,25

Preparing with less race days seems to be the gold standard now. That or just being injured or sick.
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23 Sep 2014 18:34

Libertine Seguros wrote:Yes. Anna Solovey, Ganna Solovey and Hanna Solovey are all the same person.

The culprit is the Cyrillic letter Г. In Russian it represents [g], in Ukrainian it represents [h], and as [h] is seldom present in French, when she registered in France it was lost in pronunciation yielding "Hanna" pronounced "Anna".

She came back after the ban and started destroying ITTs and raised a lot of eyebrows doing so, couldn't get a pro contract though so it seems like there was some concern among teams about her. This year her only UCI-rated results are a win in the Chrono Champénois and a silver today.
blacklisted perhaps.
or not, but in any case me thinks that if there was concern it was not about her doping but about her having been caught doing so and thus representing bad PR.

edit: excellent phonological analysis by the way ;)
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23 Sep 2014 18:38

took me a while to figure out that Sergei Honchar/Gonchar was the same person
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23 Sep 2014 18:43

That is a new trick from the dopers handbook. I'm ****ed if I'm going to start calling The garmin anti doping hero Avid Millar.
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23 Sep 2014 19:18

sniper wrote:blacklisted perhaps.
or not, but in any case me thinks that if there was concern it was not about her doping but about her having been caught doing so and thus representing bad PR.

edit: excellent phonological analysis by the way ;)


Could have been the fact that she came straight back from the ban to this on her first racing day back that made teams think she was not subtle enough.
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Talking of Avid Millar

23 Sep 2014 19:22

Looks like tonight Hanna/Anna/Ganna is cursing the guy on the mic in the car behind. Smoking it up to the last check point. After getting such a pasting for winning the Europeans by too much, looks like she eased off to "just win" it, losing over 30 seconds to the 2nd placed rider in that last section. Remember Avid suddenly having a problem with his rear mech straight after the last time check in 2003. How far up was he at that point ? Killing it. The dodgy mech was sorted after a bit of him giving it the eye and freewheeling. Got to love Herety in the car behind.

Did St Avid mention any of that in riding through the dark or when he told all (well as much as he felt was convenient at the time) to the authorities ?
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23 Sep 2014 19:25

Didn't she make up some crazy excuse when she was caught? Something about her coach tricking her into doping
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23 Sep 2014 19:42

Race Radio wrote:Didn't she make up some crazy excuse when she was caught? Something about her coach tricking her into doping


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23 Sep 2014 20:08

Cookson will be delighted she only came second to the clean Brennauer.
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23 Sep 2014 20:55

ralphbert wrote:That is a new trick from the dopers handbook. I'm ****ed if I'm going to start calling The garmin anti doping hero Avid Millar.


You mean Dafydd Millar, no longer that dirty doping Scot, but the clean Welsh Saintly hero:D
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23 Sep 2014 20:57

sniper wrote:Cookson will be delighted she only came second to the clean Brennauer.


And German doping ended wth T-mobile :rolleyes: just ask Marcel Kittel;)
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23 Sep 2014 21:00

Benotti69 wrote:You mean Dafydd Millar, no longer that dirty doping Scot, but the clean Welsh Saintly hero:D


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23 Sep 2014 21:01

Be interesting to get more info on her first doping offence - it puts a serious dent in the whole, "there's no money for doping in women's cycling" mantra.
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23 Sep 2014 21:23

Tested positive for a product called Drostanolone according to Cycle Base.
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23 Sep 2014 21:49

Dear Wiggo wrote:Be interesting to get more info on her first doping offence - it puts a serious dent in the whole, "there's no money for doping in women's cycling" mantra.


I've posted this before, much of it is not expensive.

Interesting that she's got a French license.

There was a mention of Jeanson, who, if memory serves, could not (??) get a Canadian license and ended up with an American license.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drostanolone_propionate

Drostanolone propionate is used primarily by athletes who need to retain strength while losing mass.


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24 Sep 2014 07:26

And Stuey O'Rady her coach said she only doped once.:D
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