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02 Aug 2009 23:28

he may have been a long time ago but people still remember Major Taylor, here
in the states. John Howard too.:cool:
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02 Aug 2009 23:31

Denmark:

Rolf Sørensen
Bjarne Riis
Jesper Skibby
Ole Ritter
Leif Mortensen
Michael Rasmussen
Kim Andersen
Bo Hamburger
Lars Michaelsen
Nicki Sørensen

Riders like Jacob Fuglsang, Matti Breschel and Chris Anker Sørensen should replace some of the older ones if they keep up their riding.
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02 Aug 2009 23:43

elapid wrote:What - page 4 and no Australians yet? Here is my list in no particular order of road cyclists:

Sir Hubert Opperman
Phil Anderson
Robbie McEwen
Stuey O'Grady
Cadel Evans
Baden Cooke
Russell Mockridge
Michael Rogers
Anna Wilson
Oenone Wood

The list would be much longer if track cyclists were to be included!


Danny Clarke. Alan Peiper for Baden Cooke and Oenone Wood.
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03 Aug 2009 00:02

Garry Allen wrote:Danny Clarke. Alan Peiper for Baden Cooke and Oenone Wood.


Good call on Alan Peiper. I didn't include Danny Clarke because he was much better on the track than the road. Our track top 10 would be very difficult!
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03 Aug 2009 00:04

elapid wrote:What - page 4 and no Australians yet? Here is my list in no particular order of road cyclists:

Sir Hubert Opperman
Phil Anderson
Robbie McEwen
Stuey O'Grady
Cadel Evans
Baden Cooke
Russell Mockridge
Michael Rogers

Anna Wilson
Oenone Wood


The list would be much longer if track cyclists were to be included!


+
Bradley McGee
Neil Stephens/Simon Gerrans

The girls should have their own thread.
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03 Aug 2009 00:13

unsheath wrote:+
Bradley McGee
Neil Stephens/Simon Gerrans

The girls should have their own thread.


OK - now some deficiencies in my memory and knowledge have been exposed, how about this (again, no particular order):

Sir Hubert Opperman
Phil Anderson
Robbie McEwen
Stuey O'Grady
Cadel Evans
Brad McGee
Russell Mockridge
Michael Rogers
Alan Peiper
Neil Stephens

Alternates: Baden Cooke and Simon Gerrans

Leaving out Cookie was difficult as an ex-green jersey winner, but he never really capitalized on that form and hence I've given Brad McGee the nod instead. Simon Gerrans is also difficult to leave out as a stage winner in both the TdF and Giro and winner of the TDU, but I think some of the trail blazers and hard men of yesteryear deserve their dues. I have purposely not included Haussler, just because it is a convenient excuse that he is German this year. I would have otherwise included him, but I would know who to take out! Others current professionals that didn't make it, but deserve honourable mentions include Matt White, Matt Lloyd, William Walker, Nick Gates, Matthew Hayman, Allan Davis, Ben Day, Brett Lancaster, and Mark Renshaw, just to name a few.
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03 Aug 2009 00:21

kiwirider wrote:A list from down under - but on the right side of the Tasman (figuratively and literally) ... So, since the title doesn't place any particular limits on the list, here's my pick for NZ:

Sarah Ulmer - three world records, world champ and olympic gold in pursuit all in 2004, plus a handy roadie
Brian Fowler - one of the best amateurs who never turned pro - despite what were reported to be some seriously good offers (in light of the "Clinic" threads, maybe he was the smart one??)
Jack Swart - absolute demon rider, could still kick many a **** - and he's in his 60's
Eric Mackenzie - one of the original hard men from down under to race pro in Europe
Julian Dean - ask Thor, Tyler or anyone else who's raced with him
Greg Henderson - former scratch race world champ on the track and a damn good roadie
Hayden Roulsten - another awesome trackie, plus overcome a major heart problem to get back into the pro peleton with Cervelo
Karen Halliday - points race world champ in 1990
Tino Tabak - actually Dutch, but moved to NZ in the early '70's and was a major force in building road racing at that time
Kashi Leuchs - NZ's most successful MTB racer - been a consistent top 10 ranked rider for years

As with any list, that leaves heaps of people out ... I could think of at least another twenty or so riders who could figure ... and I bet most of you didn't think that there were that many riders in NZ, total!! ;)


Nice list... I'd only do a couple differently.

1. Sarah Ulmer
2. Tino Tabak (top twenty in the Tour, a Dutch national championship, two podiums at Kuurne-Brussels-Kuurne and a 2nd in the Tour of Flanders are still enviable palmares amongst "Kiwi" cyclists).
3. Paul Jesson (still only Kiwi to win an individual Grand Tour stage - 1980 Vuelta, stage 10. Would have a far greater palmares had it not been for the accident in which he lost his leg).
4. Greg Henderson (track world championship, numerous road wins in the US and only Kiwi to win a ProTour road race gets him ahead of Julz).
5. Julian Dean
6. Hayden Roulston
7. Brian Fowler (remaining amateur counts against him IMO as he was never tested at a truly top level)
8. Graeme Millar
9. Jack Swart
10. Eric Mackenzie
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03 Aug 2009 00:30

pmcg76 wrote:Ireland, small country(4.5million people) not many cyclists but 2 big, big stars

1.Sean Kelly, No explanations needed
2.Stephen Roche, ditto
3.Shay Elliott, stage winner TDF, yellow jersey wearer TDF, team-mate of Anquteil
4.Martin Earley, TDF, Giro stage winner
5.Dan Martin, current pro, will be very big
6.Nicolas Roche, current pro, Top 25 TDF, Irish Champion
7.Mark Scanlon, former Junior World Champion, Tour finisher
8.Philip Deignan, current Pro, 3 GT finishes
9.Paul Kimmage, 3 TDF participations, 1 Giro participation
10.No clear candidate-
Ciaran Power/Laurence Roche, Conor Henry, David O'Loughlin


Pretty much agree - I wouldn't have Martin #5 just yet! (Maybe after the Vuelta though) I think I'd have Roche and Deignan above him for their GT results so far. Deignan was on for a decent finish in the Giro this year before crashing while bringing Carlos Sastre to the foot of a climb.

David O'Loughlin is decent on the track so probably sneaks #10 for me.
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03 Aug 2009 00:59

elapid wrote:OK - now some deficiencies in my memory and knowledge have been exposed, how about this (again, no particular order):

Sir Hubert Opperman
Phil Anderson
Robbie McEwen
Stuey O'Grady
Cadel Evans
Brad McGee
Russell Mockridge
Michael Rogers
Alan Peiper
Neil Stephens

Alternates: Baden Cooke and Simon Gerrans

Leaving out Cookie was difficult as an ex-green jersey winner, but he never really capitalized on that form and hence I've given Brad McGee the nod instead. Simon Gerrans is also difficult to leave out as a stage winner in both the TdF and Giro and winner of the TDU, but I think some of the trail blazers and hard men of yesteryear deserve their dues.


I'd be happy with that list for the male road cyclists.Since it's the list of the top 10 Australian cyclists of all time, I think we have to start thinking about track riders as well. Danny Clarke and Gary Gilmour to start.
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03 Aug 2009 01:13

Garry Allen wrote:I'd be happy with that list for the male road cyclists.Since it's the list of the top 10 Australian cyclists of all time, I think we have to start thinking about track riders as well. Danny Clarke and Gary Gilmour to start.


Any list for Aussies that doesn't include Sid Patterson isn't worth the effort!
And it's Graham Gilmour, Gary Gilmour was a cricketer!
In no particular order-

Russell Mockridge
Sid Patterson
Sir Hubert Opperman
Phil Anderson
Robbie McEwan
Cadel Evans
Stuart O'Grady
Danny Clarke
Don Allan
Peter Besanko
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03 Aug 2009 01:14

Clemson Cycling wrote:I am from the United States so here is my list (its going to be a little rough since I am not great on my cycling history)

1. Lance Armstrong
2. Greg Lemond
3. Andrew Hampsten
4. Levi Leipheimer
5. Christian Vande Velde
6. George Mount
7. Bobby Julrich
8. George Hincapie
9. David Zabriskie
10. Davis Phinney

Unhonorable Mention
1. Floyd Landis
2. Tyler Hamilton
3. Scott Moninger




Well if we're going to ignore doping (which it appears some are), you've got to put Tyler Hamilton in the top 10 Americans.

2nd Giro
4th TDF (stage winner)
1st LBL
1st Dauphine Libere (I think ?)
1st Tour of Romandie
1st Olympic Time Trial

Plus, regardless of what he's taking, one of the toughest guys to ride in the pro peleton.
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03 Aug 2009 01:27

Garry Allen wrote:I'd be happy with that list for the male road cyclists.Since it's the list of the top 10 Australian cyclists of all time, I think we have to start thinking about track riders as well. Danny Clarke and Gary Gilmour to start.


What about oldies like Edgar Gray, Sid Patterson, Russell Mockridge, Robert Spears, John Nicholson, Graeme French, Gordon Johnson, Alf Goulett and Graham Gilmour.

More recently Danny Clarke, Dean Woods, Ryan Bayley and Shane Kelly.
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03 Aug 2009 01:29

heinkel12 wrote:Any list for Aussies that doesn't include Sid Patterson isn't worth the effort!


But Sid was a trackie and not a roadie. He is definitely on the track cycling list.
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03 Aug 2009 01:35

usedtobefast wrote:he may have been a long time ago but people still remember Major Taylor, here
in the states. John Howard too.:cool:


Man, you guys are missing one OBVIOUS choice:

1. Liz Hatch

I mean, there is not set criteria, and I promise you that the one rider I would love to watch more than ANY rider listed is Ms Hatch. I think a really bumpy course would work pretty well. Too bad she doesn't ride Roubaix.

I still remember fondly sitting on the grass watching Pezzo at the 96 Olympics riding with her jersey unzipped. Jiggly isn't the appropriate word, but its the first word that comes to mind.
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03 Aug 2009 01:41

feeling pretty stupid here. It is Graham Gilmour. I'd challenge Peter Besanko. Great results in Australia including multiple wins in Melbourne Warnambool. Dominant throughout the 80s here. Basically unknown overseas.
http://www.cyclingwebsite.net/coureurfichestats.php?coureurid=1999
And if you are going to take the hard men it ahs to be Alan Peiper and Neil Stephens. Neil Stephens for riding the 3 GTs in one year as a domestique, stage win in TDF. Alan Peiper for being Alan Peiper.
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03 Aug 2009 01:59

Garry Allen wrote:feeling pretty stupid here. It is Graham Gilmour. I'd challenge Peter Besanko. Great results in Australia including multiple wins in Melbourne Warnambool. Dominant throughout the 80s here. Basically unknown overseas.
http://www.cyclingwebsite.net/coureurfichestats.php?coureurid=1999
And if you are going to take the hard men it ahs to be Alan Peiper and Neil Stephens. Neil Stephens for riding the 3 GTs in one year as a domestique, stage win in TDF. Alan Peiper for being Alan Peiper.


Sid Patterson did actually finish second in an Australian road title but I take your point. Just put Bulldog Besanko in to represent the domestic champs. I'd still rank him in front of Neil Stephens though.
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03 Aug 2009 02:02

BTW - great thread. Really enjoying this one.
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03 Aug 2009 02:11

Male or Female, one great cyclist left off the US list, a member of the US Bicycling Hall of Fame & Olympic Hall of Fame

Connie Carpenter

[Connie has won four World Championship medals; Silver in the 1977 World Road Race, Bronze in 1981 World Road Race, Silver in the 1982 World Pursuit and Gold at the 1983 World Pursuit. She brought back the Gold Medal from the 1984 Olympic Games and has won 12 national championships. She has also competed in speed skating and rowing and has coached the USCF Junior Woman's Team.]
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03 Aug 2009 02:30

Norway

1. Thor Hushovd
2. Jostein Wilmann
3. Knut Knudsen
4. Dag Otto Lauritzen
5. Atle Kvålsvoll
6. Dag Erik Pedersen
6. Edvald Boasson Hagen
7. Kurt Asle Arvesen
8. Jaanus Kuum
9. Atle Pedersen
10. Steffen Kjærgaard
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03 Aug 2009 03:06

I was going with the female free list. My list with dopers which other people are putting in theirs (Simpson, Vinokourov , Riis, Rasmussen, Merckx, etc)

1. Armstrong
2. Lemond
3. Hampsten
4. Leipheimer
5. Hamilton
6. Landis
7. Vande Velde
8. Hincapie
9. Julrich
10. Moninger

Yeah I took Mount out and flopped a few
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