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Geraint Thomas, the next british hope

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13 Jul 2018 08:29

I am finding the content of the 2 or 3 interviews by Thomas before the Tour about joint leadership very odd and out of character.

Thomas has been nothing but a team player for Sky and BC. Sky controls the messages it puts out to the media very strictly.

I am led therefore to the conclusion that this is a strategy by Sky, as opposed to Thomas getting a little above his station. It seems they, Sky, may be laying the groundwork for a world-beating mountain display by Thomas. "This was always a possible scenario. We always knew he had the potential to win on Alpe d'Huez. We went in with joint leaders," Brailsford may claim after the event.
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13 Jul 2018 22:01

Orders - "Talk about anything but Froome! Bernal might or not race, co-leaders, might leave etc blah blah blah"
"Are you going to believe me or what you see with your own eyes?"

“It doesn’t matter what I do. People need to hear what I have to say. There’s no one else who can say what I can say. It doesn’t matter what I live.”
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14 Jul 2018 00:46

wirral wrote:I am finding the content of the 2 or 3 interviews by Thomas before the Tour about joint leadership very odd and out of character.

Thomas has been nothing but a team player for Sky and BC. Sky controls the messages it puts out to the media very strictly.

I am led therefore to the conclusion that this is a strategy by Sky, as opposed to Thomas getting a little above his station. It seems they, Sky, may be laying the groundwork for a world-beating mountain display by Thomas. "This was always a possible scenario. We always knew he had the potential to win on Alpe d'Huez. We went in with joint leaders," Brailsford may claim after the event.



Agreed that it with it being Sky it's more likely to be orders by the team to talk about anything but Froome no matter what it is. Sky is way too controlled for it to be anything else. I loved Alex Dowsett comparing Sky to Movistar. His comment was Sky has ever minute of your day planned out and is extremely organized and everyone knows exactly what is going on. Whereas at Movistar they make plans very last minute, then described it as organized chaos. He described with the team trials Sky (like most teams) have the order set the night before, where Movistar riders were still figuring that out on the way to the start house with no input from the directors and race strategy many times was decided long after the stage/race started other than very general things including hey someone should try to get in a break. So this would lead you to believe that at Sky this is something Thomas has support of the team to be saying. Also explains why at Movistar you really need to just ignore most of what is said by anyone with the exception of Mr Unzue and Valverde as they are two that actually and truly know what is going on.
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18 Jul 2018 15:43

Where to even begin... :rolleyes:
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18 Jul 2018 15:45

Not normal.
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18 Jul 2018 15:46

No surprises today, as we have seen this before.
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18 Jul 2018 15:48

Salvarani wrote:Where to even begin... :rolleyes:


i will start by saying SORRY!

sorry! for scoffing at members claiming 'track background of Thomas will see him as GT winner'

clearly those members knew more about cycling than myself

who considered 'no way could G EVER come close to winning a GT'

....mission impossible LOL

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18 Jul 2018 15:53

ebandit wrote:
Salvarani wrote:Where to even begin... :rolleyes:


i will start by saying SORRY!

sorry! for scoffing at members claiming 'track background of Thomas will see him as GT winner'

clearly those members knew more about cycling than myself

who considered 'no way could G EVER come close to winning a GT'

....mission impossible LOL

ark L


Dont have to say sorry to me... Im not on the side that thinks any of this is normal or a good thing at all
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18 Jul 2018 16:56

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18 Jul 2018 17:08



Good comparison, but what the track cyclist did was at least a couple of magnitude more ridiculous.
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18 Jul 2018 17:16

To be fair on Thomas, he had better pedigree than Froome. He won junior Paris-Roubaix. Never thought he’d win a GT though! :cool:
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18 Jul 2018 17:37



when was Hincapie 2nd in Tour de Suisse, smashed a climb in Paris-Nice with Porte 2015, won GC Paris-Nice, podiumed Tirreno and was as strong as Thomas as a domestique on the climbs? (check Plateau de Beille 2015)
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18 Jul 2018 17:50

yeah and Hincapie never dropped the entire group of GC climbers either
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18 Jul 2018 17:51

pastronef wrote:


when was Hincapie 2nd in Tour de Suisse, smashed a climb in Paris-Nice with Porte 2015, won GC Paris-Nice, podiumed Tirreno and was as strong as Thomas as a domestique on the climbs? (check Plateau de Beille 2015)

Go back a few pages and you'll see the reason for my post.

Here's a link.
viewtopic.php?p=2273407#p2273407

Because of their skillsets and the roles they have fulfiled for their leaders to this point in their careers, I've also drawn parallels between the two elsewhere (and not always in the Clinic), such as here, here and here as well as deliberately replacing Geraint's name with George's here in the same way as I sometimes jokingly write "Eddy Merckx" to mean "Marianne Vos" in the PRR women's racing thread. This is not an isolated thing. I just thought he'd wait until week 3 to do this because of the parallel with the Pla d'Adet win that I mentioned.
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18 Jul 2018 18:09

thehog wrote:To be fair on Thomas, he had better pedigree than Froome. He won junior Paris-Roubaix. Never thought he’d win a GT though! :cool:



He hasn't. He's won a stage.
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18 Jul 2018 18:41

macbindle wrote:
thehog wrote:To be fair on Thomas, he had better pedigree than Froome. He won junior Paris-Roubaix. Never thought he’d win a GT though! :cool:



He hasn't. He's won a stage.


No, he won a stage and is leading the race, did you not see today’s stage? :cool:
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18 Jul 2018 18:55

Oh right. So Greg Van A has also won a GT by your logic :lol:

Did you miss last year's Tour when Geraint Thomas won too? :lol:
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18 Jul 2018 18:56

macbindle wrote:Oh right. So Greg Van A has also won a GT by your logic :lol:


No, it’s not logic, it pure observation as we know you didn’t watch today stage so we’ll give you a pass. I guess you still think Tom D attacked alone and up hill :cool:
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18 Jul 2018 18:59

thehog wrote:To be fair on Thomas, he had better pedigree than Froome. He won junior Paris-Roubaix. Never thought he’d win a GT though! :cool:


According to you getting a yellow jersey is winning a GT.

You said you never thought he'd win a GT.

Did you miss last year's Tour when he was winning a GT after the first stage?

Not surprised you are trying to change the subject... :cool:
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18 Jul 2018 19:11

zlev11 wrote:yeah and Hincapie never dropped the entire group of GC climbers either


Hincapie was in a break, he got lucky. Sat on Oscar P for an awful long time.
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