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12 Aug 2018 21:41

Ha, Dina Asher Smith has exactly the sort of past history and development the clinic craves when discussing cyclists. She ran sub 10.99 for the 100m in 2015 and 22.07 for the 200m, and her personal best is still only 10.85/21.89. She was a world class junior winning medals at both 100/200 at world and European champs. Her 100m time is 60th on the all time list and her 200m time is 148th. Marion Jones my ****.
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12 Aug 2018 23:08

Wtf are these poles on. Normally they dominate the field events but middle distance this year they've been really really strong. And in a pretty suspicious way too, they just seem so much stronger and faster than everyone else towards the end of the race.
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13 Aug 2018 08:27

Jakob Ingebrigtsen the 17 year old ran a 1500m of 3:52.28 on 26 May, which was the second-fastest ever by a 17 year old (only a now-banned doper had gone faster). Then barely two month later he ran 3:31:18, shaving off a whopping 22sec off his time.

Then over the weekend he completed a 1500m/5000m double at the European Champs..and wait for it, he did it on consecutive days.

What is this kid on?
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13 Aug 2018 10:53

QuickZulu wrote:Jakob Ingebrigtsen the 17 year old ran a 1500m of 3:52.28 on 26 May, which was the second-fastest ever by a 17 year old (only a now-banned doper had gone faster). Then barely two month later he ran 3:31:18, shaving off a whopping 22sec off his time.

Then over the weekend he completed a 1500m/5000m double at the European Champs..and wait for it, he did it on consecutive days.

What is this kid on?


At the very least he's on a training plan that is more diligent than your fact checking.

26th May race was a MILE.

https://www.iaaf.org/athletes/norway/jakob-ingebrigtsen-294868
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13 Aug 2018 14:09

Yeah there were many head scratching performances. Ingebritsen, like his two older brothers, is talented, but still...
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13 Aug 2018 15:02

simoni wrote:
QuickZulu wrote:Jakob Ingebrigtsen the 17 year old ran a 1500m of 3:52.28 on 26 May, which was the second-fastest ever by a 17 year old (only a now-banned doper had gone faster). Then barely two month later he ran 3:31:18, shaving off a whopping 22sec off his time.

Then over the weekend he completed a 1500m/5000m double at the European Champs..and wait for it, he did it on consecutive days.

What is this kid on?


At the very least he's on a training plan that is more diligent than your fact checking.

26th May race was a MILE.

https://www.iaaf.org/athletes/norway/jakob-ingebrigtsen-294868


While you are correct ( i thought the same when I saw the OP) that doesn't exactly disqualify the suspicion against the kid.
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14 Aug 2018 00:09

I hope Ingebrigtsen continues to improve as he reaches his 20s. Not because I care about his career particularly, just because it's going to be hilarious watching what the Africans come up with to try to beat him.
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25 Aug 2018 03:20

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2018/aug/24/kipyegon-bett-kenya-epo-tests-positive
Kipyegon Bett, Kenya’s world 800m bronze medal winner, has tested positive for the banned blood booster erythropoeitin (EPO).

The Athletics Kenya executive committee member Barnabas Korir said it received notification from the Athletics Integrity Unit on Thursday that the 20-year-old had submitted a positive sample. The AIU handles integrity and doping issues for the International Association of Athletics Federations.

If his positive test is confirmed, Bett, who finished just ahead of Britain’s Kyle Langford to win his medal at the world championships in London last year, will face a ban. He is already provisionally suspended for failing to submit to sample collection on 15 August.

“We had submitted defence for the case of ‘refusing or failing to submit to sample collection’ by Friday’s deadline. But last night, we received another notification about the new case,” Korir said.

“We have kicked off due process, accorded to every athlete as per the rules set by AIU. If the second test confirms the first one, then the athlete will have to face the consequences,” he said.

If his positive test is confirmed, Bett will join a growing list of Kenya athletes to have flouted anti-doping rules. The Milan marathon winner Lucy Kabuu tested positive for morphine earlier this month. Samuel Kalalei, the winner of Athens marathon last November, also tested positive for EPO on 4 June.

The Kenya-born Bahraini runner Ruth Jebet, the 2016 Rio Olympic 3,000m steeplechase champion, and the former Olympic and three-times world 1500m champion, Asbel Kiprop, were suspended after their samples tested positive for EPO in February. Kiprop denied wrongdoing.

Other Kenya athletes who failed dope tests are the 2016 Olympic marathon winner Jemima Sumgong and the former Boston City marathon winner Rita Jeptoo.
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28 Aug 2018 11:05

1988 decathlon Olympic gold medalist Schenk admits doping (yeah I know, really shocking doh...)
https://www.n-tv.de/sport/Olympiasieger-Schenk-raeumt-Doping-ein-article20594082.html
Shut up, Jens!
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05 Sep 2018 12:58

Russian athletes Tatyana Lebedeva and Maria Abakumova have been stripped of three world track championship medals because of doping.

The Athletics Integrity Unit, which handles doping cases in track and field, says Abakumova has had her javelin results from August 2008-August 2012 erased, stripping her of her world championship bronze from 2009 and gold from 2011.


https://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/article217841205.html
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16 Sep 2018 13:28

That's a rather fast marathon.
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16 Sep 2018 13:50

Singer01 wrote:That's a rather fast marathon.


Indeed. Takes one minute and eighteen seconds off suspected doper Kimetto's time.

Nothing to see here :D
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16 Sep 2018 20:30

Did n't even break a sweat! Easy peasy.
https://slate.com/culture/2018/09/eliud-kipchoge-sets-world-record-at-berlin-marathon.html
It is the greatest jump in marathon record times since 1967, but Kipchoge didn’t even look tired at the final stretch.


https://www.dw.com/en/kenyan-eliud-kipchoge-breaks-world-record-at-berlin-marathon/a-45506998
Kipchoge will be rewarded with a total sum of €120,000 ($139,614) for his performance on Sunday, including €50,000 for the world record, €40,000 for coming in first and a €30,000 bonus for keeping his time below two hours and four minutes.
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17 Sep 2018 10:43

Kipchoge has been getting a ton of positive press, including a rather credulous article in the NYT (which should know better) https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/14/sports/eliud-kipchoge-marathon.html

In which we read this quote: Bedford, the London Marathon director, said, “In the eyes of people who know and understand the sport, there is no doubt at all that he is anything other than clean, legitimate and honest.”

Seriously? The guy goes from a 5k specialist (and a very good one) to winning what, 9 marathons in a row and obliterating the record. Plus Kenyan.

Here is Kipchoge's magic formula. Train less hard: But perhaps what is most unusual about Kipchoge, 33, and his diet of monastic extremes is the one thing he does not do: overextend himself in training. He estimates that he seldom pushes himself past 80 percent — 90 percent, tops — of his maximum effort when he circles the track for interval sessions, or when he embarks on 25-mile jogs.
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17 Sep 2018 13:51

Its just a matter of time before we see sub 2 hour marathon's. I wonder what doctor is working towards getting his athlete that credit ?
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17 Sep 2018 15:12

OldCranky wrote:
Singer01 wrote:That's a rather fast marathon.


Indeed. Takes one minute and eighteen seconds off suspected doper Kimetto's time.

Nothing to see here :D

The former farmer Kimetto came from nowhere, then suddenly ran 2:04 at the age of 28. Kind of like training partner Geoffrey Mutai. Now he is injured all the time and does not finish marathons.

On the balance of things, I am happier that the marathon WR is with the consistent GOAT who has shown superb running talent since his youth. Even if he was aided by new Nike super shoes and/or other Nike athlete "benefits" (cough).
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