wendybnt wrote: Glenn_Wilson wrote: wendybnt wrote:
In which case you are probably more qualified to talk about military matters in a balanced way, rather than a dunderheaded brainwashed ex-serviceman whose training was all about not thinking for himself, and following orders unquestioningly, without any consideration to the contribution of their actions to immorality and suffering.
EDIT: I realise this looks like it was aimed at Bustedknuckle, but it wasn't. It is a general point
In general who would it have been other than Bustedknuckle? Is that a personal experience you have had with some "ex-serviceman"? Surprised because I did not realize there was much exposure to "ex-servicemen" in New Zealand.
It was in response to BN's request that Python "tell him about his military service".... As if this is a prerequisite for being able to have an opinion on foreign affairs.
I see you are taking the same ball-swaggerring stance, as if having been in the military makes you sacrosanct and beyond reproach.
What it means, certainly in BN's case, and most likely in your too, that you are unable to considers these issues in an objective manner, partly because your brane has been washed but also because you are wilfully hiding behind this notion that military service is sacrosanct.
I really don't hold much hope for a discussion with you being anything other than utterly pointless so I'll be leaving it there.I won't be leaving the thread however
....I don't think anyone here wants you to leave.....but please try to keep the personal animus out of it because going personal simply doesn't make you or your position look, uhhh, good, and frankly you should have enough cold hard facts to support your case quite nicely....
....the sad thing about yesterday is that a bunch folks who have posted some very good things in these pages found themselves involved in something that very quickly deteriorated into something way way below their usual "pay-grade"....
....so yeah lets discuss this, honour everyone's differences and maybe an agreed-upon resolution may occur, or maybe not....but for the love of gawd lets not debate this, because that will lead absolutely nowhere ( there will never be a right or wrong, no clear winners...because this is real complisticated...history is involved, individuals with different points of view are involved, bureaucracies evil and otherwise are involved...and every possible combination here-in, there-in, hither-to-fore, and so on and so forth are involved....)
....and yeah I'm also not leaving and I hope no one else is either....so everybody calm f%@king down, group hug, and lets bring on Rnd 2....and lets try to keep it civil ( well at least within the standing rules here at CN...whatever they may be this week....)
....lord thunderin' jaysus....you know things is weird when blutto gets to try his hand at peace making...first try, hope its good eh....