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07 Mar 2018 07:58

Im also pretty sure Groenewegen can't make the Poggio after 290 km, he just seems a little bit too heavy, a bit like Greipel but obviously a worse climber. Ewan is really different, as is Gaviria.

But what an amazing top speed he has got, I must admit I have been sleeping a bit on him, mainly because I don't really care that much about sprints.
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07 Mar 2018 15:36

Definitely reminds you more of Kittel and Greipel than Gaviria.
But he could be an interesting challenger to Kittel in July and maybe give some kind of appeal to those wonderful flat stages.
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07 Mar 2018 16:47

Groenwegen is definitely more like Kittel. He's too bulky to get over hills comfortably. At least, the longer ones.
He did pretty well in some other Belgian semi-classics. So as long as the hill is short enough he can get over them.

PN type of climbs are already too tough so no chance he gets over the Poggio.
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07 Mar 2018 17:50

Dekker_Tifosi wrote:Groenwegen is definitely more like Kittel. He's too bulky to get over hills comfortably. At least, the longer ones.
He did pretty well in some other Belgian semi-classics. So as long as the hill is short enough he can get over them.

PN type of climbs are already too tough so no chance he gets over the Poggio.

Greipel also sucks on the longer climbs in MSR, but does pretty well on the Belgian cobbles, maybe you could compare him to him.
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07 Mar 2018 17:54

Mayomaniac wrote:
Dekker_Tifosi wrote:Groenwegen is definitely more like Kittel. He's too bulky to get over hills comfortably. At least, the longer ones.
He did pretty well in some other Belgian semi-classics. So as long as the hill is short enough he can get over them.

PN type of climbs are already too tough so no chance he gets over the Poggio.

Greipel also sucks on the longer climbs in MSR, but does pretty well on the Belgian cobbles, maybe you could compare him to him.

Groenewegen won the Ronde van Vlaanderen Beloften in 2014, beating, among others, Benoot, so I think it is fair to believe that Groenewegen, like Greipel, could be decent in the cobbled classics.
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07 Mar 2018 18:02

shalgo wrote:
Mayomaniac wrote:
Dekker_Tifosi wrote:Groenwegen is definitely more like Kittel. He's too bulky to get over hills comfortably. At least, the longer ones.
He did pretty well in some other Belgian semi-classics. So as long as the hill is short enough he can get over them.

PN type of climbs are already too tough so no chance he gets over the Poggio.

Greipel also sucks on the longer climbs in MSR, but does pretty well on the Belgian cobbles, maybe you could compare him to him.

Groenewegen won the Ronde van Vlaanderen Beloften in 2014, beating, among others, Benoot, so I think it is fair to believe that Groenewegen, like Greipel, could be decent in the cobbled classics.


So far Groenewegen wasnt able to keep up in the cobbled races, except in kuurne this year. That was a doomed to be a sprint day though.
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07 Mar 2018 18:04

He's been 5th in Dwars door Vlaanderen as well. So don't undersell it ;)
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07 Mar 2018 18:24

I think he's the second best pure sprinter around these days. And perhaps he can even challenge Kittel this year.
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07 Mar 2018 23:32

Valv.Piti wrote:Im also pretty sure Groenewegen can't make the Poggio after 290 km, he just seems a little bit too heavy, a bit like Greipel but obviously a worse climber. Ewan is really different, as is Gaviria.

But what an amazing top speed he has got, I must admit I have been sleeping a bit on him, mainly because I don't really care that much about sprints.


Ah, right. Sounds like he knows his limitations.

He could always, you know, take a tow up La Manie to save energy....
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07 Mar 2018 23:36

Hugo Koblet wrote:I think he's the second best pure sprinter around these days. And perhaps he can even challenge Kittel this year.


I'm not sure about this. He and Viviani have definitely been in the best form early on - and he can certainly challenge Kittel.

But I would say (assuming equal form) 'he's in the mix' with about 5 or 6 others.
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08 Mar 2018 07:34

I don,t think that he is in peak shape, Groenewegen always start good the year but he maintains his level or even increase it during the rest of the season. Simply he is better now than in previous years.
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09 Mar 2018 18:06

I've liked him since his De Rijke days 2012/13.
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09 Mar 2018 19:34

Hugo Koblet wrote:I think he's the second best pure sprinter around these days. And perhaps he can even challenge Kittel this year.

He is the best.
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Dylan Groenewegen discussion thread

13 Jul 2018 18:27

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How come this man doesn't have his own thread yet? He's been on fire this year.
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13 Jul 2018 18:29

This year's wins:
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13 Jul 2018 19:02

you should watch the slovenia sprint, that one was fun. Completely out of nowhere blasted past cavendish and ewan as if they were standing still
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14 Jul 2018 07:33

Currently most likely the fastest, maybe only Kittel can match or surpass his speed, but Kittel has awful year. Where was he yesterday?
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14 Jul 2018 10:21

Considering his speed he should have a greater leadout train than what he has at Lotto Jumbo probably a complete team at his service so that he can convert that into wins
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14 Jul 2018 14:17

Two wins in a row now.

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