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80ª Volta a Portugal em Bicicleta (1 a 12 de Agosto de 2018)

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08 Aug 2018 14:28

Dekker_Tifosi wrote:that just tells us they are on newer stuff that's still undetectable

moar rocket fuel

makes sense

3rd tier teams with ridiculous small budgets are always the leaders in developing newer undetectable stuffs
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08 Aug 2018 15:05

Dekker_Tifosi wrote:that just tells us they are on newer stuff that's still undetectable

moar rocket fuel


They're probably on the same stuff that Sunweb is using
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08 Aug 2018 16:42

That's pretty poor then considering it only seems to be working for 1 guy so far, and even he doesn't produce the wattages mr Alarcon and friends produce in Portugal :lol:
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Re: 80ª Volta a Portugal em Bicicleta (1 a 12 de Agosto de 2

08 Aug 2018 18:41

Two riders didn’t start today
Olivier Pardini
Hakon Aalrust
but they are not on Portugese teams...
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08 Aug 2018 19:18

FilipeFD wrote:
Dekker_Tifosi wrote:that just tells us they are on newer stuff that's still undetectable

moar rocket fuel

makes sense

3rd tier teams with ridiculous small budgets are always the leaders in developing newer undetectable stuffs

I doubt that Porto and Sporting only play their teams peanuts.
It's probably the benefit of being a CT team and not having to deal with a proper passport, think about Dani Diaz and Celano, world beaters at that level, but no longer able to get decent results once they had to deal with the bio passport at PCT level. Last year Alarcon beat Quintana in Spain and wasn't busted, they are probably doing a lot of stuff out of competition, but they are probably smart enough not to go full wild west and use CERA like many of the guys in Latin America who got busted.
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08 Aug 2018 19:29

When was the last positive test at the Volta anyway?

Edit: oh, right, those Funvic guys in 2016. But apart from them?
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08 Aug 2018 20:39

roundabout wrote:When was the last positive test at the Volta anyway?

Edit: oh, right, those Funvic guys in 2016. But apart from them?

Vladislav Gorbunov, 2013. That was also the year Sérgio Ribeiro was prevented from taking the start.
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08 Aug 2018 22:06

them dirty foreigners ruining the race

am I right that Ribeiro was a bio passport case so it is even longer that a rider on a Portuguese team tested positive in the Volta
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10 Aug 2018 13:37

I want to congratulate the moderators for the wise decision of moving this thread to the clinic. It had the effect they wanted: no more talking about racing, only doping
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11 Aug 2018 06:05

If the testing is going to have any effect, I suppose we'll see today on the last mountain stage.
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11 Aug 2018 15:44

Well, the racing has been a bit tame since Alarcon destroyed the field, but we will have crazy action Senhora da Graca in a few minutes
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11 Aug 2018 16:22

Well, de Mateos and Brandao had no answer to Alarcon's alien sprint in the final 500m, but the racing was quite meh
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11 Aug 2018 16:47

kind of like GThomas uphill sprints in Tour, if your "alien" is hinting something
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11 Aug 2018 16:48

congrats to the mods on killing the thread
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11 Aug 2018 18:15

Apparently Alarcon, aka the actual imbatido, climbed Senhora Da Graça, 8,4 km@7,4%, in 21'03", another scary performance.
Source: https://twitter.com/ybenrajeb/status/1028315389422432257
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12 Aug 2018 17:16

Vicente García de Mateos (Avilado Louletano Uli) wins the TT last stage but Big Raul wraps up the GC.

W52 get 5 men in the top 9 of the stage - which even outdoes Sky at TT's :D

Norwegian Krister Hagen gets a respectable 12 th on the day & 18 th on GC - Team Coop end up with only 3 men.
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12 Aug 2018 17:16

de Mateos is such a joke lol. Gets off bio passport investigation on a technicality and then has the best race of his life. Just annoying.
His average stage position through the whole race is 5.4 compared to 8.4 last year.
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12 Aug 2018 18:55

luckyboy wrote:de Mateos is such a joke lol. Gets off bio passport investigation on a technicality and then has the best race of his life. Just annoying.
His average stage position through the whole race is 5.4 compared to 8.4 last year.

Well, in fairness, is he better or worse than Raúl "David Belda II: back and better than ever" Alarcón? Winning the TT might be overstretching himself a bit though.
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Re: 80ª Volta a Portugal em Bicicleta (1 a 12 de Agosto de 2

12 Aug 2018 23:22

Interesting to see what EX sky rider Nathan Earle thinks of the race after slogging around Portugal for almost two weeks :D
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Re: 80ª Volta a Portugal em Bicicleta (1 a 12 de Agosto de 2

13 Aug 2018 07:01

Scarponi wrote:Interesting to see what EX sky rider Nathan Earle thinks of the race after slogging around Portugal for almost two weeks :D

he called it 4th grand tour on instagram :D
https://www.instagram.com/p/BmL9xivBpQe/?taken-by=nearle88
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