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08 Sep 2018 19:11

Stage 14 Longer, but not as steep as yesterday, and the GC guys at the front for once, at Les Praeres

Green points
At last, the serious picks dominate the stage

YATES Simon 88 3
LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel 40 3
VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro 25 1
PINOT Thibaut 15 3
QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander 10 17
KRUIJSWIJK Steven 7 0
MAS NICOLAU Enric 5 10
URAN URAN Rigoberto 3 20
IZAGIRRE INSAUSTI Ion 2 1
ARU Fabio 1 20

1 BicycleBoy 128 (Yates and Lopez)
2 AmisVelo 98 (Yates and Quintana)
3 SemirS 91 (Yates and Uran)
4 GPBlanco 45 (Lopez and Mas)
5 Search 40
6 Koronin 30
7 Armchair_Cyclist 20
8 Crevaison, Salvarani 19
10 Axl, Leadbelly 18
12 Hakkie2 16
13 BikeRacer33 15
14 Del1962, LosBrolin, Shalgo 14
17 Mellow_Velo, Minessa, Nathanptz, Paniou, Rote_Laterne 13
22 Bminchow, Laarsland, Scrool07, Vladimir 11
26 BluesInTheBottle, Squire 9
28 Akuryo 6
29 Gotland, LightBing, MidnightFright, TotalPackage, Yellow_Knight 4
34 Josedin 3
35 Carlo_Algatrensig 1
36 NorthAmericanScum 0
Collective_Wisdom 14

Standings
Koronin reaches the 300 mark, but has close competition for the first time. Red jersey points will probably be a factor more consistently from here on in.

1 Koronin 301
2 BicycleBoy 286
3 AmisVelo 251
4 GPBlanco 215
5 NorthAmericanScum 198
6 Shalgo 197
7 Yellow_Knight 184
8 TotalPackage 179
9 SemirS 172
10 Nathanptz 157

Red points

Lots of points that Herrada had borrowed for two day returned, but not distributed in exactly the same way.

YATES Simon 218 3
VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro 136 1
LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel 67 3
PINOT Thibaut 51 3
MAS NICOLAU Enric 50 10
BRAMBILLA Gianluca 30 2
ARU Fabio 27 20
QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander 10 17
...
TEUNS Dylan -13 1
SIVAKOV Pavel -15 1
MEINTJES Louis -16 20
DE LA CRUZ MELGAREJO David -28 15
DE PLUS Laurens -28 6
BENNETT George -34 8

1 BicycleBoy 255 (Yates and Lopez, but de la Cruz)
2 AmisVelo 215 (Yates and Quintana, but Meintjes)
3 SemirS 193 (Yates but de la Cruz)
4 Koronin 173 (Valverde and Mas, but Meintjes)
5 Armchair_Cyclist 114 (Pinot, Mas and Brambilla, but Meintjes)
6 Salvarani 73
7 BluesInTheBottle 63
8 Crevaison 60
9 Akuryo 50
10 Scrool07 48
11 Hakkie2 43
12 GPBlanco 37
13 LightBing 32
14 Yellow_Knight 26
15 Del1962 24
16 Shalgo 23
17 Axl 21
18 TotalPackage 17
18 Vladimir 17
20 MidnightFright 13
21 Gotland 9
21 Laarsland 9
21 Squire 9
24 Mellow_Velo 4
25 Leadbelly -2
25 Search -2
27 BikeRacer33 -3
28 Josedin -5
29 Minessa -7
30 LosBrolin -10
31 Paniou -16
32 Rote_Laterne -24
33 Carlo_Algatrensig -26
34 Nathanptz -37
35 Bminchow -42
36 NorthAmericanScum -90
Collective_Wisdom -5

Standings
Top scorer 2 days in a row, Bicycle Boy has moved in that time from 10th to top. He is just 4 points clear of Amis Velo, up from 3rd yesterday, and the clean sweep of Yates teams on the podium is completed by Semir, who has made the biggest jump of the day, 10 places.

1 BicycleBoy 1225
2 AmisVelo 1221
3 SemirS 1051
4 Koronin 1046
5 Salvarani 1035
6 Axl 1034
7 LosBrolin 990
8 Nathanptz 984
9 Shalgo 940
10 Rote_Laterne 938
11 Hakkie2 911
12 Mellow_Velo 891
13 Minessa 853
14 Scrool07 838
15 GPBlanco 829
16 BikeRacer33 818
17 Paniou 806
18 Del1962 777
19 Bminchow 763
20 Squire 757
21 Laarsland 713
22 Yellow_Knight 701
23 Gotland 698
24 BluesInTheBottle 693
25 TotalPackage 633
26 Search 631
27 Josedin 627
28 Vladimir 598
29 Crevaison 596
30 Leadbelly 591
31 Armchair_Cyclist 588
32 Akuryo 570
33 MidnightFright 565
34 LightBing 522
35 Carlo_Algatrensig 463
36 NorthAmericanScum 458
Collective_Wisdom 923

This seems to be the most volatile of one of these games so far, and the next two stages are not likely to be much more settled.
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08 Sep 2018 19:25

Wow, I finally got some decent green points from someone not named a version of Alexander (Alejandro/Alessandro).
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09 Sep 2018 19:26

Stage 15 Lagos de Covadonga

Green points

With one exception, the same bunch of riders as yesterday, but in a different order.

PINOT Thibaut 70 3
YATES Simon 43 3
LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel 40 3
VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro 15 1
KRUIJSWIJK Steven 10 0
MAS NICOLAU Enric 7 10
QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander 5 17
URAN URAN Rigoberto 3 20
BUCHMANN Emanuel 2 10
IZAGIRRE INSAUSTI Ion 1 1


1 BicycleBoy 83 (Yates and Lopez)
2 Armchair_Cyclist 77 (Pinot and Mas)
3 Crevaison, Leadbelly 73 (Pinot and Uran)
5 AmisVelo 48 (Yates and Quintana)
6 GPBlanco 47(Lopez and Mas)
7 SemirS 46 (Yates and Uran)
8 Search 40 (Lopez)
9 Koronin 22
10 Axl 17
11 Salvarani 15
12 Hakkie2 14
13 BikeRacer33 12
14 BluesInTheBottle, LosBrolin, Nathanptz, Rote_Laterne, Squire 10
19 Akuryo 9
20 Del1962, Mellow_Velo, Minessa, Paniou, Shalgo 8
25 Laarsland 7
26 Bminchow, Scrool07, Vladimir, Yellow_Knight 5
30 Gotland, Josedin, LightBing, MidnightFright, TotalPackage 3
35 Carlo_Algatrensig 2
36 NorthAmericanScum 0
Collective_Wisdom 8

Standings

1 BicycleBoy 369
2 Koronin 323
3 AmisVelo 299
4 GPBlanco 262
5 SemirS 218
6 Shalgo 205
7 NorthAmericanScum 198
8 Yellow_Knight 189
9 Search 187
10 Armchair_Cyclist 182
10 TotalPackage 182

Red points

Pinot and Mas pass Uran and Izagirre (and Pinot passes a couple more to boot), and Lopez and Pinot make progress in the points and mountains classifications.

PINOT Thibaut 148 3
LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel 70 3
MAS NICOLAU Enric 57 10
YATES Simon 46 3
VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro 14 1
DUPONT Hubert 14 2
ZAKARIN Ilnur 14 3
DE TIER Floris 11 1
HENAO MONTOYA Sergio Luis 10 1
...
KUSS Sepp -12 1
MEINTJES Louis -16 20
IZAGIRRE INSAUSTI Ion -39 1
URAN URAN Rigoberto -47 20


(blushes)
1 Armchair_Cyclist 195
2 BicycleBoy 115
3 Crevaison 107
4 GPBlanco 99
5 Leadbelly 88
6 BikeRacer33 52
6 Search 52
8 Akuryo 51
9 Koronin 37
10 Hakkie2 34
11 AmisVelo 25
12 Vladimir 6
13 Axl 3
14 Scrool07 -3
15 SemirS -7
16 Laarsland -8
16 Squire -8
18 Salvarani -11
19 NorthAmericanScum -14
20 BluesInTheBottle -16
21 Carlo_Algatrensig -25
22 Bminchow -29
23 Rote_Laterne -39
24 Nathanptz -46
25 Josedin -47
25 LightBing -47
27 Minessa -48
28 Paniou -50
29 Yellow_Knight -56
30 Mellow_Velo -60
31 Gotland -63
32 Del1962 -66
33 MidnightFright -73
33 Shalgo -73
35 LosBrolin -79
36 TotalPackage -81
Collective_Wisdom -74

Standings

"Only" second place today, Bicycle Boy stretches the lead from just four points to nearly a hundred. Koronin nudges Semir off the podium, And Hakkie and GPBlanco are in the top ten. I am no longer bumping along near the bottom, after a 14 place, leap-of-the-day, move.

1 BicycleBoy 1340
2 AmisVelo 1246
3 Koronin 1083
4 SemirS 1044
5 Axl 1037
6 Salvarani 1024
7 Hakkie2 945
8 Nathanptz 938
9 GPBlanco 928
10 LosBrolin 911
11 Rote_Laterne 899
12 BikeRacer33 870
13 Shalgo 867
14 Scrool07 835
15 Mellow_Velo 831
16 Minessa 805
17 Armchair_Cyclist 783
18 Paniou 756
19 Squire 749
20 Bminchow 734
21 Del1962 711
22 Laarsland 705
23 Crevaison 703
24 Search 683
25 Leadbelly 679
26 BluesInTheBottle 677
27 Yellow_Knight 645
28 Gotland 635
29 Akuryo 621
30 Vladimir 604
31 Josedin 580
32 TotalPackage 552
33 MidnightFright 492
34 LightBing 475
35 NorthAmericanScum 444
36 Carlo_Algatrensig 438
Collective_Wisdom 849
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09 Sep 2018 20:34

Wait, I'm on the podium at the moment? I'll take that even I end off the podium in Madrid. I'll take this.
Last edited by Koronin on 12 Sep 2018 00:54, edited 1 time in total.
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11 Sep 2018 18:09

Stage 16 Time Trial

Green points
Only one real TT specialist picked, but Quickstep's TT training widened the spread of points a bit.

DENNIS Rohan 70 1
ROSSKOPF Joey 40 0
CASTROVIEJO NICOLAS Jonathan 25 0
YATES Simon 18 3
KRUIJSWIJK Steven 15 0
KWIATKOWSKI Michal 10 0
MAS NICOLAU Enric 7 10
OLIVEIRA Nelson Filipe Santos Simoes 5 0
DE PLUS Laurens 3 6
GESCHKE Simon 2 0
ASGREEN Kasper 1 0

1 Yellow_Knight 70
2 AmisVelo, BicycleBoy, SemirS 18
5 GPBlanco 10
6 Akuryo, Armchair_Cyclist, Axl, BikeRacer33, BluesInTheBottle, Hakkie2, Koronin, Salvarani, Squire 7
15 Laarsland, Leadbelly, LosBrolin, Nathanptz, NorthAmericanScum 3

Standings
If you haven't seen your name among the top tens, here is the whole ranking in our minor classification
1 BicycleBoy 387
2 Koronin 330
3 AmisVelo 317
4 GPBlanco 272
5 Yellow_Knight 259
6 SemirS 236
7 Shalgo 205
8 NorthAmericanScum 201
9 Armchair_Cyclist 189
10 Search 187
11 TotalPackage 182
12 Leadbelly 171
12 Salvarani 171
14 Nathanptz 170
15 Crevaison 155
15 Mellow_Velo 155
17 Rote_Laterne 152
18 BikeRacer33 149
19 MidnightFright 132
20 LightBing 126
21 Scrool07 125
22 BluesInTheBottle 124
22 Gotland 124
24 LosBrolin 123
24 Paniou 123
26 Bminchow 116
27 Axl 84
28 Josedin 79
29 Laarsland 77
30 Minessa 75
31 Hakkie2 59
32 Squire 55
33 Del1962 51
34 Vladimir 44
35 Akuryo 32
36 Carlo_Algatrensig 15
Collective_Wisdom 126

Red points

The less you went for Colombian riders, the better a day you had.

DENNIS Rohan 70 1
MAS NICOLAU Enric 32 10
YATES Simon 20 3
TEUNS Dylan 17 1
IZAGIRRE INSAUSTI Ion 16 1
DE PLUS Laurens 6 6
DE LA CRUZ MELGAREJO David 6 15
...
BUCHMANN Emanuel -15 10
CONCI Nicola -15 1
URAN URAN Rigoberto -15 20
QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander -50 17
LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel -60 3

Those who lost out were more picked than the riders who gained today, so most teams are in the red.

1 Yellow_Knight 40 (Dennis, but Buchmann and Uran)
2 Koronin 30 (Mas)
3 Armchair_Cyclist 29 (Mas)
4 Akuryo 21
5 Squire 19
6 BluesInTheBottle 15
7 SemirS 11
8 NorthAmericanScum 8
9 Josedin -1
10 Leadbelly -4
11 Gotland -9
12 Carlo_Algatrensig -11
13 BikeRacer33 -14
14 Crevaison -16
14 LightBing -16
16 MidnightFright -17
16 TotalPackage -17
18 GPBlanco -26
19 Hakkie2 -29
20 AmisVelo -32
21 BicycleBoy -35
21 Salvarani -35
23 Axl -45
24 Bminchow -48
25 Scrool07 -52
26 Vladimir -54
27 Search -56
28 Minessa -59
28 Nathanptz -59
28 Paniou -59
31 Del1962 -67
31 Mellow_Velo -67
33 Shalgo -69
34 Laarsland -74
35 LosBrolin -76
36 Rote_Laterne -84
Collective_Wisdom -61

Standings

Time trials are often more significant for the difference in time gaps than the changes in GC position. Similarly, there was a fairly wide range of scoring in our table, but few changes. GPBlanco is the highest placed team to have risen, although only by 1 place, and Bike Racer makes the top ten. Blues in the Bottle has a 6 place jump.

1 BicycleBoy 1305
2 AmisVelo 1214
3 Koronin 1113
4 SemirS 1055
5 Axl 992
6 Salvarani 989
7 Hakkie2 916
8 GPBlanco 902
9 Nathanptz 879
10 BikeRacer33 856
11 LosBrolin 835
12 Rote_Laterne 815
13 Armchair_Cyclist 812
14 Shalgo 798
15 Scrool07 783
16 Squire 768
17 Mellow_Velo 764
18 Minessa 746
19 Paniou 697
20 BluesInTheBottle 692
21 Crevaison 687
22 Bminchow 686
23 Yellow_Knight 685
24 Leadbelly 675
25 Del1962 644
26 Akuryo 642
27 Laarsland 631
28 Search 627
29 Gotland 626
30 Josedin 579
31 Vladimir 550
32 TotalPackage 535
33 MidnightFright 475
34 LightBing 459
35 NorthAmericanScum 452
36 Carlo_Algatrensig 427
Collective_Wisdom 788

So back to the battle against gravity for most of the rest of the week.
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11 Sep 2018 23:23

The current leader, Bicycle Boy, was bottom of the popularity ranking table (de la Cruz is the only member of his team on more than three teams), and the team in third was third from bottom in popularity (only Meintjes from Koronin's team is in the Collective Wisdom team).

Ironically, the team between those two in the popularity stakes, second from bottom there, is second from bottom here, so an idiosyncratic selection is no guarantee of success.
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12 Sep 2018 01:02

Armchair cyclist wrote:The current leader, Bicycle Boy, was bottom of the popularity ranking table (de la Cruz is the only member of his team on more than three teams), and the team in third was third from bottom in popularity (only Meintjes from Koronin's team is in the Collective Wisdom team).

Ironically, the team between those two in the popularity stakes, second from bottom there, is second from bottom here, so an idiosyncratic selection is no guarantee of success.



Now that is interesting. In my case I banked on Valverde having his typical Vuelta. We'll see if that holds.
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2018 Vuelta CQ Game

12 Sep 2018 19:02

Stage 17 Balcón de Bizkaia

Green points

The break has it again, but not without some former GC hopefuls who had been picked.

WOODS Michael 70 0
TEUNS Dylan 40 1
DE LA CRUZ MELGAREJO David 25 15
YATES Simon 18 3
MAJKA Rafal 15 0
ZAKARIN Ilnur 10 3
DE MARCHI Alessandro 7 2
GEBREIGZABHIER Amanuel Werkilul 5 0
HERRADA LOPEZ Jesus 3 0
HINDLEY Jai 2 0
NIBALI Vincenzo 1 0

1 BicycleBoy, SemirS 43 (de la Cruz and Yates)
3 Nathanptz 40 (Teuns)
4 Carlo_Algatrensig 35 (de la Cruz and Zakarin)
5 twelve more de la Cruz teams 25
17 AmisVelo 18
18 Crevaison, Vladimir 10
20 GPBlanco, Koronin 7

Standings

1 BicycleBoy 430
2 Koronin 337
3 AmisVelo 335
4 GPBlanco 279
4 SemirS 279
6 Yellow_Knight 259
7 NorthAmericanScum 226
8 Search 212
9 Nathanptz 210
10 Shalgo 205

At the other end of the table, Carlo Algatrensig more than trippled the total green point haul he had from the preceding 16 stages.


Red points

The final hill brought about some significant top 6 changes, particularly good for Mas and Lopez teams, but a hit to those with Quintana, Aru or Pinot.

MAS NICOLAU Enric 75 10
TEUNS Dylan 61 1
LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel 50 3
DE LA CRUZ MELGAREJO David 45 15
IZAGIRRE INSAUSTI Ion 24 1
ZAKARIN Ilnur 20 3
YATES Simon 18 3
URAN URAN Rigoberto 15 20
...
BRAMBILLA Gianluca -14 2
DENNIS Rohan -15 1
PADUN Mark -15 3
ARU Fabio -22 20
MATE MARDONES Luis Angel -30 1
PINOT Thibaut -41 3
QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander -50 17


1 GPBlanco 119 (Mas and Lopez)
2 BicycleBoy 108 (Lopez, de la Cruz and Yates)
3 Squire 101 (Mas, de la Cruz, Uran, but Aru)
4 Search 94
5 Akuryo 93
6 SemirS 78
7 Koronin 77
8 Axl 74
9 BikeRacer33 64
10 BluesInTheBottle 62
11 Carlo_Algatrensig 42
11 Hakkie2 42
13 NorthAmericanScum 39
14 Gotland 38
15 Nathanptz 17
16 Armchair_Cyclist 14
17 Minessa 10
17 Paniou 10
19 Leadbelly 1
20 Salvarani -3
21 TotalPackage -7
22 LightBing -12
23 MidnightFright -13
24 Josedin -19
25 Yellow_Knight -22
26 Crevaison -28
27 AmisVelo -32
28 Bminchow -39
29 Mellow_Velo -41
30 Rote_Laterne -46
31 LosBrolin -61
32 Del1962 -63
32 Shalgo -63
34 Vladimir -64
35 Laarsland -75
36 Scrool07 -122
Collective_Wisdom -18

Standings
All three Yates teams had him combined with a different Colombian contender. Now that Lopez is looking confidently the strongest of those, Bicycle Boy's lead is looking pretty secure. Koronin is up to second, with the Spanish proportion of the GC podium. Akuryo pulls out a 9 place rise.
1 BicycleBoy 1413
2 Koronin 1190
3 AmisVelo 1182
4 SemirS 1133
5 Axl 1066
6 GPBlanco 1021
7 Salvarani 986
8 Hakkie2 958
9 BikeRacer33 920
10 Nathanptz 896
11 Squire 869
12 Armchair_Cyclist 826
13 LosBrolin 774
14 Rote_Laterne 769
15 Minessa 756
16 BluesInTheBottle 754
17 Akuryo 735
17 Shalgo 735
19 Mellow_Velo 723
20 Search 721
21 Paniou 707
22 Leadbelly 676
23 Gotland 664
24 Yellow_Knight 663
25 Scrool07 661
26 Crevaison 659
27 Bminchow 647
28 Del1962 581
29 Josedin 560
30 Laarsland 556
31 TotalPackage 528
32 NorthAmericanScum 491
33 Vladimir 486
34 Carlo_Algatrensig 469
35 MidnightFright 462
36 LightBing 447
Collective_Wisdom 770

Tomorrow should be fairly neutral.
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12 Sep 2018 20:45

Yet again a one my two Alexander's gets me the green points. LOL

I was hoping for good things from Mas, but didn't expect this.
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2018 Vuelta CQ Game

13 Sep 2018 19:52

Stage 18 A thwarted sprint in Lleida

Green points

Our popular, not too expensive, sprinters made the points, but only just.

WALLAYS Jelle 70 0
BYSTRØM Sven Erik 40 0
SAGAN Peter 25 0
YATES Simon 18 3
VIVIANI Elia 15 0
GARCIA CORTINA Ivan 10 2
VAN POPPEL Danny 7 2
ABERASTURI IZAGA Jon 5 2
VAN ASBROECK Tom 3 2
NIZZOLO Giacomo 2 14
GIBBONS Ryan 1 11

1 AmisVelo 21 (Yates, Nizzolo and Gibbons)
2 SemirS 19 (Yates and Gibbons)
3 BicycleBoy 18
4 BikeRacer33, NorthAmericanScum 12
6 Rote_Laterne, Shalgo 10
8 Josedin 6
9 Bminchow, Crevaison, Gotland, Mellow_Velo, Search, Vladimir 3
15 Armchair_Cyclist, BluesInTheBottle, MidnightFright, Paniou, Salvarani, Scrool07, TotalPackage 2
22 Del1962, Laarsland, Minessa 1

Standings

1 BicycleBoy 448
2 AmisVelo 356
3 Koronin 337
4 SemirS 298
5 GPBlanco 279
6 Yellow_Knight 259
7 NorthAmericanScum 238
8 Search 215
8 Shalgo 215
10 Nathanptz 210

Red points
Pernsteiner's non-start made more difference than any time on the road. A few changes in the sprints classification, but not much happening.

YATES Simon 16 3
GARCIA CORTINA Ivan 10 2
VAN POPPEL Danny 9 2
ABERASTURI IZAGA Jon 5 2
VAN ASBROECK Tom 3 2
BILBAO LOPEZ DE ARMENTIA Pello 3 1
...
DUPONT Hubert -2 2
LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel -5 3
TEUNS Dylan -13 1


For what it's worth:
1 AmisVelo 22
2 NorthAmericanScum 17
2 SemirS 17
4 Shalgo 13
5 BicycleBoy 12
5 BikeRacer33 12
7 Rote_Laterne 9
8 Vladimir 8
9 Josedin 6
10 Scrool07 5
10 TotalPackage 5
12 Bminchow 4
12 Carlo_Algatrensig 4
12 Crevaison 4
12 Mellow_Velo 4
16 BluesInTheBottle 3
16 Gotland 3
16 LosBrolin 3
16 MidnightFright 3
16 Salvarani 3
21 Armchair_Cyclist 2
21 Axl 2
21 Del1962 2
21 Paniou 2
25 Hakkie2 1
25 Laarsland 1
25 LightBing 1
25 Minessa 1
29 Koronin 0
29 Yellow_Knight 0
31 Akuryo -1
31 Leadbelly -1
31 Search -1
31 Squire -1
35 GPBlanco -5
36 Nathanptz -14
Collective_Wisdom 4


Standings

Despite the meagre sprinkling of points, five teams moved up a place, Blues in the Bottle, Crevaison, Scrool, Rote Laterne, and, moving back into 2nd place, Amis Velo.

1 BicycleBoy 1425
2 AmisVelo 1204
3 Koronin 1190
4 SemirS 1150
5 Axl 1068
6 GPBlanco 1016
7 Salvarani 989
8 Hakkie2 959
9 BikeRacer33 932
10 Nathanptz 882
11 Squire 868
12 Armchair_Cyclist 828
13 Rote_Laterne 778
14 LosBrolin 777
15 BluesInTheBottle 757
15 Minessa 757
17 Shalgo 748
18 Akuryo 734
19 Mellow_Velo 727
20 Search 720
21 Paniou 709
22 Leadbelly 675
23 Gotland 667
24 Scrool07 666
25 Crevaison 663
25 Yellow_Knight 663
27 Bminchow 651
28 Del1962 583
29 Josedin 566
30 Laarsland 557
31 TotalPackage 533
32 NorthAmericanScum 508
33 Vladimir 494
34 Carlo_Algatrensig 473
35 MidnightFright 465
36 LightBing 448
Collective_Wisdom 774

Proper competition to resume tomorrow.
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14 Sep 2018 17:26

Stage 19 Volta a Andorra stage 1, to Rabassa

Green points
If your expensive GC picks scored well today, they have probably done well overall.
If not, you probably stopped reading these updates by the end of week one.

PINOT Thibaut 70 3
YATES Simon 58 3
KRUIJSWIJK Steven 25 0
URAN URAN Rigoberto 15 20
LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel 10 3
MAS NICOLAU Enric 7 10
KELDERMAN Wilco 5 3
VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro 3 1
GALLOPIN Tony 2 0
QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander 1 17

1 Crevaison, Leadbelly 85 (Pinot and Uran)
3 Armchair_Cyclist 77 (Pinot and Mas)
4 SemirS 73 (Yates and Uran)
5 BicycleBoy 68 (Yates and Lopez)
6 AmisVelo 59 (Yates and Quintana)
7 Axl, Salvarani 23
9 BluesInTheBottle, Squire 22
11 Mellow_Velo, Minessa 21
13 Gotland 20
14 GPBlanco 17
15 Del1962, LosBrolin, Nathanptz, Paniou, Rote_Laterne, Shalgo 16
21 LightBing, MidnightFright, TotalPackage, Yellow_Knight 15
25 Koronin, Search 10
27 BikeRacer33, Hakkie2 8
29 Akuryo 7
30 Bminchow, Laarsland, Scrool07, Vladimir 1
34 Carlo_Algatrensig, Josedin, NorthAmericanScum 0
Collective_Wisdom 16

Standings
The accumulation of red jersey points finally get the Yates teams to monopolise the podium.
1 BicycleBoy 516
2 AmisVelo 415
3 SemirS 371
4 Koronin 347
5 GPBlanco 296
6 Leadbelly 281
7 Yellow_Knight 274
8 Armchair_Cyclist 268
9 Crevaison 253
10 NorthAmericanScum 238



It might not be quite the final shakedown, but those two separate groups going up the final mountain make a difference today, with KoM and Points classification implications as well as GC.

PINOT Thibaut 122 3
YATES Simon 70 3
URAN URAN Rigoberto 15 20
BILBAO LOPEZ DE ARMENTIA Pello 13 1
ZAKARIN Ilnur 6 3
DE TIER Floris 6 1
MORENO FERNANDEZ Daniel 6 3
BRAMBILLA Gianluca 6 2
KELDERMAN Wilco 5 3
...
LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel -19 3
DE PLUS Laurens -25 6
DE LA CRUZ MELGAREJO David -26 15
IZAGIRRE INSAUSTI Ion -40 1
MAS NICOLAU Enric -43 10

1 Crevaison 139
2 Armchair_Cyclist 86
2 Leadbelly 86
4 AmisVelo 76
5 SemirS 59
6 BicycleBoy 23
7 Mellow_Velo 22
8 TotalPackage 16
9 Del1962 13
10 MidnightFright 12
10 Rote_Laterne 12
12 Shalgo 11
12 Yellow_Knight 11
14 Vladimir 10
15 LightBing 9
16 Scrool07 0
17 Nathanptz -2
18 Minessa -5
19 LosBrolin -7
20 Gotland -10
20 Paniou -10
22 Carlo_Algatrensig -16
23 Laarsland -28
24 Salvarani -30
25 BluesInTheBottle -31
26 Bminchow -32
27 Koronin -38
28 Search -43
29 NorthAmericanScum -44
30 Josedin -48
31 Axl -54
32 Squire -57
33 Hakkie2 -71
34 BikeRacer33 -72
35 Akuryo -73
36 GPBlanco -90
Collective_Wisdom -13

Standings

Koronin is bumped off the podium by Semir, as the Yates teams take control. Salvarani moves up one, and Armchair Cyclist makes a late entry into the top ten (I recall last place at the end of week one). Crevaison has, by a large margin, the biggest jump of the day with 12 places.

1 BicycleBoy 1448
2 AmisVelo 1280
3 SemirS 1209
4 Koronin 1152
5 Axl 1014
6 Salvarani 959
7 GPBlanco 926
8 Armchair_Cyclist 914
9 Hakkie2 888
10 Nathanptz 880
11 BikeRacer33 860
12 Squire 811
13 Crevaison 802
14 Rote_Laterne 790
15 LosBrolin 770
16 Leadbelly 761
17 Shalgo 759
18 Minessa 752
19 Mellow_Velo 749
20 BluesInTheBottle 726
21 Paniou 699
22 Search 677
23 Yellow_Knight 674
24 Scrool07 666
25 Akuryo 661
26 Gotland 657
27 Bminchow 619
28 Del1962 596
29 TotalPackage 549
30 Laarsland 529
31 Josedin 518
32 Vladimir 504
33 MidnightFright 477
34 NorthAmericanScum 464
35 Carlo_Algatrensig 457
35 LightBing 457
Collective_Wisdom 761

All or nothing tomorrow, but there was no evidence today that Uran or Quintana will take enough points relative to to Lopez for Amis Velo or Semir to catch Bicycle Boy. Unless something really extraordinary happens.
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14 Sep 2018 19:41

At this point Quintana has to be in the service of Valverde tomorrow.

Well my unique team at least is doing well. Hopefully for Valverde and my team his issues today were due to the high altitude and the fact he apparently hates this climb and the fact it appears to be a totally horrible climb for him.
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15 Sep 2018 22:11

Stage 20 Not much left to decide after the Collada de la Gallina

Green points

Nearly the same set of riders as yesterday, but in a slightly different order.
MAS NICOLAU Enric 70 10
YATES Simon 43 3
LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel 40 3
PINOT Thibaut 15 3
URAN URAN Rigoberto 10 20
KELDERMAN Wilco 7 3
KRUIJSWIJK Steven 5 0
DE LA CRUZ MELGAREJO David 3 15
QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander 2 17
VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro 1 1

1 GPBlanco 110 (Lopez and Mas)
2 BicycleBoy 86 (Yates, Lopez and de la Cruz)
3 Armchair_Cyclist, Axl 85 (Mas and Pinot/Uran, de la Cruz and Quintana)
5 Squire 83
6 Salvarani 82
7 BluesInTheBottle 80
8 BikeRacer33, Hakkie2 75
10 Akuryo 73
11 Koronin 71
12 SemirS 56
13 AmisVelo 45
14 Search 43
15 Leadbelly 28
16 Crevaison 25
17 Minessa 22
18 Gotland 20
19 Mellow_Velo 19
20 Paniou 15
21 Del1962, LosBrolin, Nathanptz, Rote_Laterne 12
21 Shalgo 12
26 LightBing, MidnightFright, TotalPackage, Yellow_Knight 10
30 Bminchow 5
31 Carlo_Algatrensig, NorthAmericanScum 3
33 Laarsland, Scrool07, Vladimir 2
36 Josedin 0
Collective_Wisdom 15


Standings
1 BicycleBoy 602
2 AmisVelo 460
3 SemirS 427
4 Koronin 418
5 GPBlanco 406
6 Armchair_Cyclist 353
7 Leadbelly 309
8 Yellow_Knight 284
9 Crevaison 278
9 Salvarani 278

Well, if the top 4 tomorrow were to be Nizzolo, Gibbons, Meintjes and Geoghegan Hart, Amis Velo could snatch it, but...

Red points
All change on the podium, and not a day to have chosen Movistar riders.

MAS NICOLAU Enric 182 10
LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel 137 3
YATES Simon 70 3
PINOT Thibaut 38 3
URAN URAN Rigoberto 36 20
KELDERMAN Wilco 30 3
DE LA CRUZ MELGAREJO David 15 15
BILBAO LOPEZ DE ARMENTIA Pello 10 1
...
DE TIER Floris -12 1
BRAMBILLA Gianluca -12 2
ARU Fabio -12 20
BENNETT George -14 8
MATE MARDONES Luis Angel -15 1
TEUNS Dylan -26 1
QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander -48 17
VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro -134 1


1 GPBlanco 301 (Mas and Lopez, but Bennett)
2 BicycleBoy 224 (Lopez, Yates and de la Cruz)
3 Squire 213 (Mas, Uran and de la Cruz, but Bennett and Aru)
4 Armchair_Cyclist 205 (Mas and Pinot, but Brambilla)
5 BluesInTheBottle 203 (Mas and Uran, but Aru)
6 Axl 176
7 Akuryo 173
8 Salvarani 155
9 Search 138
10 BikeRacer33 135
11 Hakkie2 126
12 SemirS 121
13 Leadbelly 89
14 Gotland 69
15 Crevaison 66
16 Koronin 45
17 Minessa 33
18 LightBing 26
19 TotalPackage 23
20 AmisVelo 21
20 MidnightFright 21
22 NorthAmericanScum 18
23 Yellow_Knight 16
24 Mellow_Velo 15
25 Paniou 3
26 Carlo_Algatrensig -3
27 Del1962 -27
27 Shalgo -27
29 Josedin -34
29 LosBrolin -34
31 Rote_Laterne -38
32 Nathanptz -40
33 Bminchow -62
34 Vladimir -64
35 Laarsland -68
36 Scrool07 -96
Collective_Wisdom -12

Standings
Quintana's accompaniment of Valverde's final limp to the line, and thereby being passed on the road and in GC by Uran, puts SemirS into second place, which is quite an achievement as he had wasted 1/4 of his budget on Porte. GPBlanco has the two young guns on the podium, and the protagonists of today's stage, so gets the prime place behind the Yates teams. His 3 place jump is matched by Squire, getting into the top ten, but outdone by Search, Blues in the Bottle, and above all by Akuryo, whose 9 position improvement is the best of the day.
But our leader stretches out his lead yet again, and seems about as unlikely to yield as Simon Yates.

1 BicycleBoy 1672
2 SemirS 1330
3 AmisVelo 1301
4 GPBlanco 1227
5 Koronin 1197
6 Axl 1190
7 Armchair_Cyclist 1119
8 Salvarani 1114
9 Squire 1024
10 Hakkie2 1014
11 BikeRacer33 995
12 BluesInTheBottle 929
13 Crevaison 868
14 Leadbelly 850
15 Nathanptz 840
16 Akuryo 834
17 Search 815
18 Minessa 785
19 Mellow_Velo 764
20 Rote_Laterne 752
21 LosBrolin 736
22 Shalgo 732
23 Gotland 726
24 Paniou 702
25 Yellow_Knight 690
26 TotalPackage 572
27 Scrool07 570
28 Del1962 569
29 Bminchow 557
30 MidnightFright 498
31 Josedin 484
32 LightBing 483
33 NorthAmericanScum 482
34 Laarsland 461
35 Carlo_Algatrensig 454
36 Vladimir 440
Collective_Wisdom 749

Tomorrow will probably see a few points lost in the points competition by teams with Yates, Lopez, Pinot and Teuns, plus a few sprinter points, although the favourites are unpicked.

But unless someone very significant fails to finish, or has a serious issue just before the 3km marker, there shouldn't be much change tomorrow.
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15 Sep 2018 22:34

Today's stage just flat out was HORRIBLE. Nothing at all good about it. I will not watch it and I have no interest at all in tomorrow's either. I just totally do not care.
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16 Sep 2018 20:13

Stage 21 Los Campos Elisianos

Green points

Final contributions (no red jersey bonus today)

VIVIANI Elia 70 0
SAGAN Peter 40 0
NIZZOLO Giacomo 25 14
VAN POPPEL Danny 15 2
SARREAU Marc 10 0
ABERASTURI IZAGA Jon 7 2
CONSONNI Simone 5 0
TRENTIN Matteo 3 1
VAN ASBROECK Tom 2 2
GIBBONS Ryan 1 11

Final gains

1 Shalgo 41 (Nizzolo, Van Poppel and Gibbons)
2 AmisVelo, Bminchow, Gotland, Mellow_Velo, Search 26
7 Armchair_Cyclist, BikeRacer33, BluesInTheBottle, MidnightFright, Paniou, Salvarani, Scrool07, TotalPackage 25
15 NorthAmericanScum 22
16 Josedin 8
17 LightBing 3
18 Crevaison, Vladimir 2
20 Del1962, Laarsland, Minessa, SemirS 1

Final standings

1 BicycleBoy 602
2 AmisVelo 486
3 SemirS 428
4 Koronin 418
5 GPBlanco 406
6 Armchair_Cyclist 378
7 Leadbelly 309
8 Salvarani 303
9 BikeRacer33 294
9 Search 294
11 Shalgo 284
11 Yellow_Knight 284
13 Crevaison 280
14 NorthAmericanScum 263
15 BluesInTheBottle 253
16 Nathanptz 238
17 TotalPackage 234
18 Mellow_Velo 224
19 Gotland 218
20 Axl 217
21 Paniou 206
22 Rote_Laterne 190
23 Squire 185
24 MidnightFright 184
25 Bminchow 176
26 Hakkie2 167
27 Scrool07 155
28 LightBing 154
29 LosBrolin 151
30 Minessa 145
31 Akuryo 137
32 Josedin 93
33 Laarsland 82
34 Del1962 81
35 Vladimir 62
36 Carlo_Algatrensig 53
Collective_Wisdom 211

Even without the 180 red jersey points accumulated by Yates, Bicycle Boy would have held off Koronin, by just 4 points.
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16 Sep 2018 20:21

The final reckoning

Apart from the sprint points, there are tiny GC changes way down the list, and more significant sprint classification changes.

NIZZOLO Giacomo 26 14
VAN POPPEL Danny 17 2
ABERASTURI IZAGA Jon 7 2
TRENTIN Matteo 3 1
VAN ASBROECK Tom 2 2
GIBBONS Ryan 1 11
MONFORT Maxime 1 3
DE TIER Floris 1 1
...
URAN URAN Rigoberto -1 20
MAS NICOLAU Enric -2 10
TEUNS Dylan -2 1
PINOT Thibaut -3 3
LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel -15 3
YATES Simon -25 3

1 Shalgo 43
2 Bminchow 27
3 Gotland 26
3 Mellow_Velo 26
3 Scrool07 26
6 MidnightFright 25
6 Paniou 25
6 TotalPackage 25
9 BikeRacer33 24
9 NorthAmericanScum 24
11 BluesInTheBottle 23
11 Salvarani 23
13 Armchair_Cyclist 21
14 Search 12
15 Josedin 8
16 LightBing 3
16 Vladimir 3
18 AmisVelo 2
19 Laarsland 1
20 Carlo_Algatrensig 0
20 Del1962 0
20 Minessa 0
23 LosBrolin -1
23 Rote_Laterne -1
23 Yellow_Knight -1
26 Akuryo -2
26 Axl -2
26 Crevaison -2
26 Hakkie2 -2
26 Koronin -2
31 Nathanptz -3
31 Squire -3
33 Leadbelly -4
34 GPBlanco -17
35 SemirS -25
36 BicycleBoy -39
Collective_Wisdom 26

Final standings

Not many points, so not much change. BikeRider gets a cheeky last gasp bump up into the top ten as the highest change in the table, and Shalgo, Gotland and NAS each manage to improve their final standings bu two points.

Despite being second worst scorer on the day, SemirS holds off Amis Velo's late attempt to gain second place, akin to Mas diving into that last corner in Andorra yesterday for 2nd place.

But it would have taken a lot worse than merely being last on the day to have deprived Bicycle Boy of the lead that he has held since stage 14, and I suspect 300 points plus as a winning margin may not have been done before. I doubt the team lowest on the popularity chart has ever won before either.

1 BicycleBoy 1633
2 SemirS 1305
3 AmisVelo 1303
4 GPBlanco 1210
5 Koronin 1195
6 Axl 1188
7 Armchair_Cyclist 1140
8 Salvarani 1137
9 Squire 1021
10 BikeRacer33 1019
11 Hakkie2 1012
12 BluesInTheBottle 952
13 Crevaison 866
14 Leadbelly 846
15 Nathanptz 837
16 Akuryo 832
17 Search 827
18 Mellow_Velo 790
19 Minessa 785
20 Shalgo 775
21 Gotland 752
22 Rote_Laterne 751
23 LosBrolin 735
24 Paniou 727
25 Yellow_Knight 689
26 TotalPackage 597
27 Scrool07 596
28 Bminchow 584
29 Del1962 569
30 MidnightFright 523
31 NorthAmericanScum 506
32 Josedin 492
33 LightBing 486
34 Laarsland 462
35 Carlo_Algatrensig 454
36 Vladimir 443
Collective_Wisdom 775


Well done to Bicycle Boy, congratulations also to Semir and Amis Velo for getting the key pick that put them on the odium, to GPBlanco for doing best of the non-Yates teams, and thanks to everyone for having a go.
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16 Sep 2018 20:46

Well no podium, but much, much better than either the Giro or Tour.

Armchair cyclist Thanks for doing this. Had fun and for my 3rd attempt at a GT I'm overall happy with my finish.
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Re: 2018 Vuelta CQ Game

16 Sep 2018 21:54

Thanks for running this game and all of the games throughout the year Armchair. I am very happy to have won the Vuelta. I realise these games are partly down to luck, but winning a CQ game with the bottom ranked team in the popularity ranking and by 300 points makes the victory extra special :) :surprised:
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Re: 2018 Vuelta CQ Game

16 Sep 2018 22:08

Thanks @armchaircyclist for organising this again. It's a great game.

Second time in a row I pick the winner of the GT and this gets me on the podium (Geraint in the Tour and now Simon) and both times having Porte in my team. :D In the end, I'm very satisfied with the result and congrats to the winner.
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17 Sep 2018 01:55

Thank you Armchair cyclist for running this game yet again!
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