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Who will be the last WT team to get a win in 2019?

Ag2R
10
23%
Astana
3
7%
Bahrain
2
5%
Dimension Data
9
21%
Groupama
3
7%
Jumbo
1
2%
Katusha
4
9%
Lotto
No votes
Movistar
No votes
Sunweb
11
26%
 
Total votes : 43

Last WT team to get a win – 2019 edition

02 Jan 2019 17:17

With first elite road cycling events of the new season coming in a few days, it is the time to relaunch this competition.

Rules:
Same as in previous years. A WT team which wins (a) a WT race or (b) a .HC, .1, WC, CC or NC race, is out of the competition. The competition is run simultaneously for (a) WT races (“last WT team to get a WT win”) and (b) other races (“last WT team to get any win”).

For stage races, both GC and stage (or half-stage) win counts. TTT win counts.

If a WT rider is starting in a race where his WT team is not participating (as a member of national team, for example), his win does not count. This does not apply to WC, CC or NC events, of course.

The results of the competition will be updated on a regular basis.
Last edited by dick the quick on 01 Feb 2019 12:35, edited 2 times in total.
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02 Jan 2019 17:26

Isn’t it best to wait for a few weeks, see which teams won early before doing this?
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02 Jan 2019 18:10

Katusha Alpecin
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02 Jan 2019 18:29

Alexandre B. wrote:Isn’t it best to wait for a few weeks, see which teams won early before doing this?


My thought too. What if it's Sunweb, but the majority of people voting "other" did so thinking it would be Groupama?
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Re: Last WT team to get a win – 2019 edition

02 Jan 2019 21:03

dick the quick wrote:With first elite road cycling events of the new season coming in a few days, it is the time to relaunch this competition.

Rules:
Same as in previous years. A WT team which wins (a) a WT race or (b) a .HC, .1, WC, CC or NC race, is out of the competition. The competition is run simultaneously for (a) WT races (“last WT team to get a WT win”) and (b) other races (“last WT team to get any win”).

For stage races, both GC and stage (or half-stage) win counts. TTT win counts.

If a WT rider is starting in a race where his WT team is not participating (as a member of national team, for example), his win does not count. This does not apply to WC, CC or NC events, of course.

The results of the competition will be updated on a regular basis.


WC and CC? They are not won in team colours.
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Re: Last WT team to get a win – 2019 edition

02 Jan 2019 21:33

Lol @creator for putting Jumbo Visma in there. Didn't they have the 2nd or 3rd most victories last season? They have a ton of sprinters + roglic. :lol:
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02 Jan 2019 21:45

That many?

Or are the speed skating wins included lol?
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02 Jan 2019 21:52

Well ok, not 2nd or 3rd, but they still had 33 wins.

By no means should they be in this poll. Sunweb is FAR more likely, they barely had any wins. Same goes for DD (but they are in already), Katusha, UAE, etc
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02 Jan 2019 22:03

Dekker_Tifosi wrote:Well ok, not 2nd or 3rd, but they still had 33 wins.

By no means should they be in this poll. Sunweb is FAR more likely, they barely had any wins. Same goes for DD (but they are in already), Katusha, UAE, etc

Agree that Sunweb shoudl be in

But then Sky are also in, as well as Trek who got Richie Porte so they'll be out after Willunga Hill.
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02 Jan 2019 22:24

Another question is; when will the last team get its victory. Last year it was amazingly early. Already the second stage at the Abu Dhabi Tour.

Aaaand the poll doesn't work. Why is that always the case?
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02 Jan 2019 22:32

We normally only put the poll up when there are only 10 left without a win. Bit premature.
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02 Jan 2019 22:50

Dekker_Tifosi wrote:Well ok, not 2nd or 3rd, but they still had 33 wins.

By no means should they be in this poll. Sunweb is FAR more likely, they barely had any wins. Same goes for DD (but they are in already), Katusha, UAE, etc


UAE can’t win this unless Gaviria gets injured.
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02 Jan 2019 22:53

At last I am conflicted on whether I am rooting for or against Sky.
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02 Jan 2019 23:01

Di Data to win this comfortably. Sunweb should challenge though as Dumoulin and Matthews like to start their season late. EF will take a while as well because they're EF
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02 Jan 2019 23:03

wheresmybrakes wrote:Katusha Alpecin

If we're counting Bay Series they won on New Years Day with Haller...
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02 Jan 2019 23:11

Guys, to sum up all the discussion above:

1.
The poll is not working (don't know why - I just followed CN instructions when creating the OP) and may include up to 10 options only. As I understand, at least some of you say that the poll would be more reasonable when there will be only 10 WT teams left without a win. This is fine, but it means effectively that the poll should be removed now, and re-launched in two or three months (hopefully). But vox populi = vox Dei, I will remove the poll once I will learn how to do this (currently at beginner level regarding creating polls at CN forum). This should cut off this unnecessary discussion like: "LOL, why the team X is in the poll, while the team Y is not".

2.
But this should not have any impact on those of us who are willing to take an early wild guess (or a premeditated choice) on the last WT to get a win in 2019 - right now, before the real action have started. I guess that for some of us (including me) it will be some fun to eliminate the teams, one by one, out of this competition from the very beginning of the season, as they will get wins.

3.
So, let's do it this way: if someone wants to take his/her choice - please feel free to do this using a standard reply posted in this thread (as one of the posters above already did). If someone other prefers to wait until the situation becomes more clear - please wait until the poll reappears later during the season.
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03 Jan 2019 00:28

Armchair cyclist wrote:We normally only put the poll up when there are only 10 left without a win. Bit premature.

He's not called dick the quick for nothing. ;)

My standard answer for this question has always been Astana, and they've usually come close. With Minali gone, I am tempted to stick with them, but Cort and Lutsenko seems to be flying early in the season these days and Lopez can always sneek a win. I'll decide on my choice later.
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03 Jan 2019 07:33

Probably EF.
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03 Jan 2019 08:12

42x16ss wrote:
wheresmybrakes wrote:Katusha Alpecin

If we're counting Bay Series they won on New Years Day with Haller...


Oh crap, sure I read the first WT team to win, never mind. :lol:
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03 Jan 2019 09:15

2018: Team Sunweb, 23/02, Phil Bauhaus, stage 3 Abu Dhabi Tour. viewtopic.php?f=6&t=33869
2017: Astana, 17/04, Michele Scarponi, Stage 1 Tour of the Alps. viewtopic.php?f=6&t=32459
2016: Team Giant-Alpecin, 06/05, Tom Dumoulin, Stage 1 Giro. viewtopic.php?f=6&t=30451
2015: Team LottoNL-Jumbo, Moreno Hofland 02/05, Stage 2 Tour de Yorkshire viewtopic.php?f=6&t=26051
2014: Astana 01/03, Andrea Guardini, Stage 3 Tour of Langkawi
2013: Euskaltel 12/04, Pablo Urtasun, Stage 1 Vuelta a Castilla y Leon
2012: AG2R, 18/05, Sylvain Georges, Stage 6 Tour of California
2011: Euskaltel, 02/04, Samuel Sanchez, GP Indurain
2010: Omega Pharma Lotto, 18/04, Philippe Gilbert, Amstel Gold Race
2009: Silence Lotto, 28/03, Cadel Evans, Stage 5 Settimana Internazionale Coppi e Bartali
2008: Euskaltel, 08/03, Koldo Fernandez, Stage 5 Vuelta Ciclista a la region de Murcia

Teams present in all polls: Katusha.
Teams present in atleast 3 polls: Giant/Sunweb, Cannondale/TeamEF, AG2R, Astana, Sky, FDJ, Lampre/UAE, LottoNL/Visma-Jumbo, Dimension Data
2019 not included. Yet.
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