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20 May 2017 08:45

Yet another DNF for Malori... so sad that it seems he can't come back to cycling for good.
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20 May 2017 13:10

Kazistuta wrote:Yet another DNF for Malori... so sad that it seems he can't come back to cycling for good.

A real shame. He is getting a lot of encouragement from his team mates on twitter. I hope that things improve for him. It must be so hard and amazing that he keeps trying.
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20 May 2017 15:08

I kinda feel bad that I keep forgetting about Malori... hope he can make a full recovery.
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21 May 2017 13:15

Movistar director interview at the Giro about Malori. Career may be over. Probably will never recover
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22 May 2017 03:31

GuyIncognito wrote:Movistar director interview at the Giro about Malori. Career may be over. Probably will never recover

Crap!
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22 May 2017 18:31

Not pro cycling but somehow cycling related: Nicky Hayden (35) world motoGP champion apparently died today as a result of the last week's accident in which he was hit by a car during his training on a road bike... RIP.

EDIT: Proper thread: viewtopic.php?f=21&t=33227
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25 May 2017 05:10

GuyIncognito wrote:Movistar director interview at the Giro about Malori. Career may be over. Probably will never recover

Do you have a link to this interview please?
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25 May 2017 09:39

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GuyIncognito wrote:Movistar director interview at the Giro about Malori. Career may be over. Probably will never recover

Do you have a link to this interview please?


It was live on TV, sorry
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Yesterday 07:11

For the 2018 Giro seems that Israel has surpassed Poland for the start.
I've never take seriously the Japan rumors because i think it's undoable.
http://iltirreno.gelocal.it/italia-mondo/2017/05/27/news/giro-2018-israele-sorpassa-la-polonia-1.15400986

Another new rumor in the article is the stage in Belice to commemorate the earthquake and the candidature of Prato Nevoso for a stage finish, the others like the double Zoncolan and Sorgenti del Piavere are already in the air by months.
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Yesterday 07:24

Nirvana wrote:For the 2018 Giro seems that Israel has surpassed Poland for the start.
I've never take seriously the Japan rumors because i think it's undoable.
http://iltirreno.gelocal.it/italia-mondo/2017/05/27/news/giro-2018-israele-sorpassa-la-polonia-1.15400986

Another new rumor in the article is the stage in Belice to commemorate the earthquake and the candidature of Prato Nevoso for a stage finish, the others like the double Zoncolan and Sorgenti del Piavere are already in the air by months.


Making it start in a bordering country would make much more sense.

1.) A small time trial in Malta followed by a couple of stages in Sicily.
2.) Three opening stages in the Croatia-Slovenia region.

Bratislava and Budapest would make fine opening cities too. You can get to Italy in less than 3 stages.

Tunisia is another possibility.
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Yesterday 09:13

Velolover2 wrote:Tunisia is another possibility.


Vuelta to have a start in Morocco. Into Spain for the beginning of stage 3: a totally flat stage from Ceuta to Algeciras. Might be a few DNFs on that stage.
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Yesterday 09:37

Velolover2 wrote:
Nirvana wrote:For the 2018 Giro seems that Israel has surpassed Poland for the start.
I've never take seriously the Japan rumors because i think it's undoable.
http://iltirreno.gelocal.it/italia-mondo/2017/05/27/news/giro-2018-israele-sorpassa-la-polonia-1.15400986

Another new rumor in the article is the stage in Belice to commemorate the earthquake and the candidature of Prato Nevoso for a stage finish, the others like the double Zoncolan and Sorgenti del Piavere are already in the air by months.


Making it start in a bordering country would make much more sense.

1.) A small time trial in Malta followed by a couple of stages in Sicily.
2.) Three opening stages in the Croatia-Slovenia region.

Bratislava and Budapest would make fine opening cities too. You can get to Italy in less than 3 stages.

Tunisia is another possibility.


Netherlands, Denmark, Ireland.
I think it's pretty obvious that the Giro organisers aren't that concerned with making sense. Though, Japan might still be too far away, suppose it needs to be possible to move everybody back to Italy within a day.
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Yesterday 10:53

Velolover2 wrote:
Nirvana wrote:For the 2018 Giro seems that Israel has surpassed Poland for the start.
I've never take seriously the Japan rumors because i think it's undoable.
http://iltirreno.gelocal.it/italia-mondo/2017/05/27/news/giro-2018-israele-sorpassa-la-polonia-1.15400986

Another new rumor in the article is the stage in Belice to commemorate the earthquake and the candidature of Prato Nevoso for a stage finish, the others like the double Zoncolan and Sorgenti del Piavere are already in the air by months.


Making it start in a bordering country would make much more sense.

1.) A small time trial in Malta followed by a couple of stages in Sicily.
2.) Three opening stages in the Croatia-Slovenia region.

Bratislava and Budapest would make fine opening cities too. You can get to Italy in less than 3 stages.

Tunisia is another possibility.

I think they based it on the money that the start location would pay.
They'll continue with the format with three stages near the start location then a rest day to fly in the southern Italy for the rest of the first week of the race.
But that's impossible for Japan, they need two intercontinental travel in a week, riders and teams will boicott it, if UCI allows RCS to do so.
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Today 09:09

Trentin just crashed into a bear(!) while he was training around Morro Bay with the team.
He's ok, but just look at his helmet:
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source: http://www.tuttobiciweb.it/2017/05/29/101718/trentin-california-orso-frontale
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Today 09:15

Please just ascent Zoncolan one time and add Crostis to the equation instead. Still, ascending Zoncolan 2 times sounds alot more interesting than Alpe d' Huez 2 times..
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Today 09:31

Velolover2 wrote:
Nirvana wrote:For the 2018 Giro seems that Israel has surpassed Poland for the start.
I've never take seriously the Japan rumors because i think it's undoable.
http://iltirreno.gelocal.it/italia-mondo/2017/05/27/news/giro-2018-israele-sorpassa-la-polonia-1.15400986

Another new rumor in the article is the stage in Belice to commemorate the earthquake and the candidature of Prato Nevoso for a stage finish, the others like the double Zoncolan and Sorgenti del Piavere are already in the air by months.


Making it start in a bordering country would make much more sense.

1.) A small time trial in Malta followed by a couple of stages in Sicily.
2.) Three opening stages in the Croatia-Slovenia region.

Bratislava and Budapest would make fine opening cities too. You can get to Italy in less than 3 stages.

Tunisia is another possibility.

Greece is fine, and I've previously designed Giri (not published) opening in Albania as they seem to be developing an interest for the sport slowly and there's a large Albanian expat community in Italy now.

Morocco for the Vuelta won't happen as long as they're keen for Ceuta and Melilla to play a role. Which is a shame as you could have a great start around parts of the Rif mountains to create a less than straightforward introduction, then cross over to Algeciras or La Linea. In the one I designed it was Casablanca TT, Casablanca - Rabat and Ksar el-Kebir - Tangier, but Fes - Fes, Fes - Chefchaouen, Chefchaouen - Tangier could also work well. I think they'd be looking more for something like Tangier - Tangier, Tangier - Tetouan, Ceuta - Ceuta though, which will cause more issues with the Moroccans.

What would an Israel start consist of? Presumably they'd be flying to Italy from Ben Gurion, so would need to end stage 3 somewhere at least close to Tel Aviv. Would expect that to be the base in all fairness, though perhaps something like Tel Aviv - Tel Aviv (chrono, either ITT or TTT - too flat for an opening road stage as likely to struggle with a categorized climb), Tel Aviv - Haifa (mostly flat along the coast but with Mount Carmel as a climb so potentially an interesting stage), Haifa or somewhere nearby - Tel Aviv or somewhere nearby (flat stage).
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Today 09:47

Mayomaniac wrote:Trentin just crashed into a bear(!) while he was training around Morro Bay with the team.
He's ok, but just look at his helmet:
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source: http://www.tuttobiciweb.it/2017/05/29/101718/trentin-california-orso-frontale
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Wut?
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Valv.Piti wrote:Please just ascent Zoncolan one time and add Crostis to the equation instead. Still, ascending Zoncolan 2 times sounds alot more interesting than Alpe d' Huez 2 times..

The big problem is that they want to do 2 different ascents of the Zoncolan and with it also being the MTF there would be huge crowds, that and the narrow steep road would make the Zoncolan descent a nightmare to deal with.
The plan is to do the classic side from Ovaro early, then the never used side from Priola, 8.9km at 12.8% as the MTF. I think Zoncolan from Ovaro is a better MTF because of the nasty middle part of the climb and the easier final 2km, if the rest of the stage is hard enough it has the potential to create big gaps.
The easier way to create such a stage would be Zoncolan from Priola until the road converges with the one from Sutrio, it would be 5.6km at 13% then descent down to Sutrio, then Sella Valcalda and then Zoncolan from Ovaro and maybe you could even have 1 or 2 climbs before the ascent from Priola.
Regarding GT starts in other countries, I wouldn't mind seeing a TdF start in Algeria, it could be a gesture of reconciliation.
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20 minutes ago

I'd prefer Ovaro - Zonc - Sutrio - Priola - Zonc to the junction.
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Netserk wrote:I'd prefer Ovaro - Zonc - Sutrio - Priola - Zonc to the junction.

From a pure racing perspective that could work really well and there would be a parking lot and enough space to host a MTF, but the Zoncolan descent with limited support (only motobikes) and all those braindead idiots that you usually have on the Zoncolan, that could be a problem.
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