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20 Feb 2018 12:29

It was Deignan that sat up. She was 2nd in the hillclimb but knew she had no chance whatsoever against Annemiek in a H2H time trial, however Longo Borghini and Guarnier (her teammate) were not far behind. Lizzie would also probably lose to ELB if it came down to just TT prowess, but if they worked as a trio they could potentially chase Annemiek down. That worked fine, until they got towards the climb, as ELB stopped cooperating, knowing that she'd get worked over by the two Boels girls, both of whom could outsprint her, so she saved energy and attacked on the climb, dropping Megan but not Lizzie, who then outsprinted her into the Stade Velodrome at the end to preserve the status quo. Annemiek wasn't really under threat of being caught once Lizzie sat up and waited because she had enough of an advantage over Megan that by the time the trio had come together she had a big enough advantage to defend untroubled.

I actually think that, patterned after the skiing, they absolutely SHOULD allow drafting. It makes it much more tactical. However, they need it to either be a race with an MTT and a flat pursuit, or a decent length flat TT and a mountain pursuit, to have any reasonable hope of succeeding.
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20 Feb 2018 17:23

Libertine Seguros wrote:It was Deignan that sat up. She was 2nd in the hillclimb but knew she had no chance whatsoever against Annemiek in a H2H time trial, however Longo Borghini and Guarnier (her teammate) were not far behind. Lizzie would also probably lose to ELB if it came down to just TT prowess, but if they worked as a trio they could potentially chase Annemiek down. That worked fine, until they got towards the climb, as ELB stopped cooperating, knowing that she'd get worked over by the two Boels girls, both of whom could outsprint her, so she saved energy and attacked on the climb, dropping Megan but not Lizzie, who then outsprinted her into the Stade Velodrome at the end to preserve the status quo. Annemiek wasn't really under threat of being caught once Lizzie sat up and waited because she had enough of an advantage over Megan that by the time the trio had come together she had a big enough advantage to defend untroubled.

I actually think that, patterned after the skiing, they absolutely SHOULD allow drafting. It makes it much more tactical. However, they need it to either be a race with an MTT and a flat pursuit, or a decent length flat TT and a mountain pursuit, to have any reasonable hope of succeeding.


You are completely correct it was Guarnier not Stephens and it was Deignan who sat up waiting for ELB and Guarnier - I thought it was strange tactics at the time by Deignan, even taking into account the likelihood of Deignan catching AVV - I worry about this addition in the Baby Giro because with National Teams at play there is the possibility of collusion.

I notice your comments about drafting - It's this very factor which has damaged the credibility of triathlons during the cycling leg, along with poor course design - Triathlons are so boring now because you have groups of ten to twenty riders who draft - Of course if you had better course design so that each cycling leg had a 2 or 3 km climb at 5 or 6%, then you'd get rid of much of the drafting.
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Stages of Giro U23

20 Feb 2018 19:40

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20 Feb 2018 19:58

Sterrato at 20% for some u23s lol
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21 Feb 2018 14:13

Brullnux wrote:Sterrato at 20% for some u23s lol

Yeah, the final 2.2km are at 17.8% on sterrato, that's a bit over the top, what's next, a Colle Bettaforca MTF?. :D
Last year the only had one real mountain stage and this year it's almost a mountain overkill, I guess iit would be a good way to get young riders ready for a Zomegnan Giro route.
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21 Feb 2018 14:22

Insanely hard route. Needless to say I like it!
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21 Feb 2018 18:25

Mayomaniac wrote:
Brullnux wrote:Sterrato at 20% for some u23s lol

Yeah, the final 2.2km are at 17.8% on sterrato, that's a bit over the top, what's next, a Colle Bettaforca MTF?. :D
Last year the only had one real mountain stage and this year it's almost a mountain overkill, I guess iit would be a good way to get young riders ready for a Zomegnan Giro route.

http://pcmdaily.com/forum/viewthread.php?thread_id=33087
http://pcmdaily.com/forum/viewthread.php?thread_id=36943
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21 Feb 2018 21:23

So if understand this correctly Zomegnan has returned but he now prefers to torture younger cyclists?
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