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01 Dec 2016 09:19

Alexandre B. wrote:http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/tour-of-guangxi-added-to-2017-worldtour-calendar/
This is terrible.

"The UCI's main role is to grow and develop cycling globally and China provides us with a wonderful opportunity to engage with literally hundreds of millions more people." - Brian Cookson

Tour of Beijing didn't teach a lesson, it seems. Race where there are people who care about the sport, not just where there are people.


I'm all for top level cycling to be expanded to different non-traditional cycling countries but as Beijing proved you can't just dump a new race in at the top level and expect it to work, why not let Guangxi run for a couple of seasons and build some history and interest then promote it to the top level of the sport. Baffles me how cycling keeps making the mistake of chasing the quick dollars that end up getting the sport nowhere, the worlds in Qatar and the new Bahrain team are just some recent examples of this.
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04 Dec 2016 16:41

They should just upgrade the Tour of Qinghai Lake to WT. :D
It's another race without history in a place that lacks cycling fans, they could try to create new races in places where people actually care about cycling and that have a nice domestic scene, but in the end it's all about money.
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05 Dec 2016 08:58

The Tour of Qinghai Lake has a longer history then the oh so great Strade Bianche...
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05 Dec 2016 21:15

Bye Bye Bicycle wrote:The Tour of Qinghai Lake has a longer history then the oh so great Strade Bianche...

Sorry, I didn't want to disrespect the race, it's a hard race at altitude and a rather long stage race that would actually be a great test for young gc prospects before riding their first gt (it's a long stage race at high altitude).
It was more about the fact that the race has had a few shady winners and the stories about the prize money being handed out in cash right after the race.
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Meh, that sounds like a name that Sean Kelly would just use to describe a race with a non-english name, Giro dell' Euregio would have been a better name, no need to change everything just to use an English name that has no real connection to the actual history of the race and the territory, Tour of the Alpes just sounds so random.
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Yesterday 20:40

Mayomaniac wrote:

Meh, that sounds like a name that Sean Kelly would just use to describe a race with a non-english name, Giro dell' Euregio would have been a better name, no need to change everything just to use an English name that has no real connection to the actual history of the race and the territory, Tour of the Alpes just sounds so random.


Spot on description.
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Yesterday 23:20

Mayomaniac wrote:

Meh, that sounds like a name that Sean Kelly would just use to describe a race with a non-english name, Giro dell' Euregio would have been a better name, no need to change everything just to use an English name that has no real connection to the actual history of the race and the territory, Tour of the Alpes just sounds so random.

It's like those fake team names in Pro Evolution Soccer.
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Today 02:37

Mayomaniac wrote:They should just upgrade the Tour of Qinghai Lake to WT. :D
It's another race without history in a place that lacks cycling fans, they could try to create new races in places where people actually care about cycling and that have a nice domestic scene, but in the end it's all about money.

ToQL is hard to become WT race:

first and most importantly, the race organizer always like the race to hold in July, the florescence for rape flowers. The organizer (Sports bureau for Qinghai province) always want the race to promote the local tourism. So it's inevitable to conflict with tour de france. So it makes the race less exposed than it should be.

Second, the race is on high altitude. It's not only hard to compete, but also hard for TV live. There is no telephone signal is some area the race goes for, because no people live in many areas and it's very poor. So you can find video for some city circuit stages but only some race report for some high altitude stage.

Third, the race has become so weird that it goes to other province like Gangsu and Ningxia. To become a WT race means lesser stages. I'm not sure if they are willing to rescale.
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Today 10:09

If they're going to rename the Giro del Trentino as the Tour of the Alps then they should commit and really make it a Tour of the Alps; including all the major Alpine climbs!

Personally I just think the English translation of Giro del Trentino is quite funny.
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Today 10:39

They should have called it "Tour of Tyrol".
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Today 10:58

Nirvana wrote:They should have called it "Tour of Tyrol".

But trentino wouldn't have been happy about this.
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Today 15:12

Gigs_98 wrote:
Nirvana wrote:They should have called it "Tour of Tyrol".

But trentino wouldn't have been happy about this.

Until 1919 Trentino was part of the County of Tyrol.
Was parted only after the WWI.
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Today 16:13

Nirvana wrote:
Gigs_98 wrote:
Nirvana wrote:They should have called it "Tour of Tyrol".

But trentino wouldn't have been happy about this.

Until 1919 Trentino was part of the County of Tyrol.
Was parted only after the WWI.

I'm Austrian, I know the story. Every Austrian is still sad about this ;)

The thing is, Südtirol is only a part of Trentino, therefore in a real Tour of Tyrol, the whole south part of Trentino would be missing. And since until now it was the Giro del Trentino I doubt that the region Trentino wants that the new name of their race is a name which doesn't fit for the majority of the state.

I agree with RedheadDane though. A tour called "Tour of the Alps", which takes place in April, which means probably no passes higher than 2000 meters, shouldn't really be named after the Alps. Also because the part of the Alps covered by Trentino, Nordtirol and Osttirol is only a very small part of the alps. Nevertheless I'm looking forward to this race. There are so many unknown climbs in Austria which could be used in this race. The Silzer Sattel, the Kühtai, the Pillerhöhe, the Hahntennjoch. Who knows, maybe Zomegan will design the race and include the Zillertaler Höhenstraße. ;) :D
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Today 16:57

Tour of The Somewhat Lesser Known Alps Located which are Located in Trentino, Nordtirol, and Osttirol.

Bit of a mouthful...
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