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What's up with Simeoni ?

05 May 2009 00:42

I know he is the Italian champ, is this move, handing back the Italian Championship jersey, just a publicity stunt ?
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05 May 2009 02:00

When did that happen? Link?
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05 May 2009 02:43

ElChingon wrote:When did that happen? Link?


today
http://www.gazzetta.it/Speciali/Giroditalia/2009/it/Primo_Piano/2009/05/04/simeoni.shtml

At the end of article director of the tour Zomegnan defends the decision not to invite his team based on performance at Tirreno-Adriatico where Simeoni DNF.

ah, the drama continues...:D
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05 May 2009 03:11

IMO Ceramica should be in and Diquigiovanni should be out after the olympic positive with Rebellin
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05 May 2009 03:31

Are the Italian Championships and the Giro both organized by RCS Sports? I can see the benefit of this symbolic gesture if they are, but otherwise it seems pointless. While I am no fan of Simeoni, I do think he has a right to complain about his team's exclusion considering he is a two-time winner of the Giro (and also current national champion of Italy). He may be getting long in the tooth and his current performances don't suggest he'll do too much in the Giro, but how different is that to the Giro's main drawcard this year?
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05 May 2009 03:32

He's just throwing all his cards on the table in a desperate bid to get into the Giro. For the Italians that's the ultimate goal and I'm sure he feels he's got some leverage as the National Champion being excluded. It's working too as it's high drama so the media will run with the story. Doubt his team gets in though as the organizer will just look even worse with a last minute change.
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05 May 2009 03:34

elapid wrote:While I am no fan of Simeoni, I do think he has a right to complain about his team's exclusion considering he is a two-time winner of the Giro (and also current national champion of Italy).


Nah, that was Gilberto Simoni (who is in the race). This is Filippo Simeoni. Gibo is a climber and Filippo is a one-day rouleur. He's got no chance at the overall; he'd be shooting for a flat stage breakaway win at most.
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05 May 2009 03:38

BikeCentric wrote:Nah, that was Gilberto Simoni (who is in the race). This is Filippo Simeoni. Gibo is a climber and Filippo is a one-day rouleur. He's got no chance at the overall; he'd be shooting for a flat stage breakaway win at most.


Woops, my bad! No comment then if he is basing his argument solely on being national champion with no other real credentials for his team's inclusion.
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05 May 2009 03:43

Argon Man wrote:IMO Ceramica should be in and Diquigiovanni should be out after the olympic positive with Rebellin


Bingo. I couldn't be more disgusted with Reb. He was one of my favorites. His Classics treble had been one of my most-played DVD's during the winter hours on the trainer. So disappointing.
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05 May 2009 03:45

cyclelicious wrote:today
http://www.gazzetta.it/Speciali/Giroditalia/2009/it/Primo_Piano/2009/05/04/simeoni.shtml

At the end of article director of the tour Zomegnan defends the decision not to invite his team based on performance at Tirreno-Adriatico where Simeoni DNF.

ah, the drama continues...:D


It is simple, Zomegnan is running a business. Wildcards are given out to the highest bidders and Xacobeo outbid Ceramica. Armstrong's 2 million euro appearance fee has to come from somewhere.
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Simeoni not Simoni

05 May 2009 03:45

elapid wrote:Are the Italian Championships and the Giro both organized by RCS Sports? I can see the benefit of this symbolic gesture if they are, but otherwise it seems pointless. While I am no fan of Simeoni, I do think he has a right to complain about his team's exclusion considering he is a two-time winner of the Giro (and also current national champion of Italy). He may be getting long in the tooth and his current performances don't suggest he'll do too much in the Giro, but how different is that to the Giro's main drawcard this year?


You are referring to two different individuals.
Filippo Simeoni
is most famous for feuding with LA, while
Gilberto Simoni
won the Giro twice.
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05 May 2009 03:46

desperate move to get a spot in the giro.

even though he's the national champ, i think that doesn't guaranty him/his team a spot in the grand tour especially they're just a continental team.

hhmmm....maybe the cycling big bully is behind this?? :D simeoni can't get any offer from a protour team + he can't ride the giro because the big bully is there.... someone is going to start this sooner or later, so maybe it's better for me to start it :D


* there you go, bartonhall says it all - all F Simeoni is known for is his history with LA, besides this, I can't recall him scoring any great result other than this 08 national champ jersey. so what makes him think he & his team deserve a spot in the giro???
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05 May 2009 04:29

So, if an amateur rider on an amateur team happens to win the italian championships then they should also get an automatic spot in the giro? Of course not...Get a grip Simeoni and ride for a better team if you want to ride the Giro so much...
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05 May 2009 05:09

Too bad Lance's buddy cant get in.... Me thinks the Giro organizers want to make this trip as comfortable as possible for the Lancer, no extra pressures or worries.
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05 May 2009 05:57

I have to admit - I can't imagine the French keeping their National Champ out by not picking his team in a wildcard. Although I'm sure it happens in other countries, for example the Australian National Champ didn't race in the Tour Down Under.
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05 May 2009 06:36

tashimi76 wrote:, for example the Australian National Champ didn't race in the Tour Down Under.

He was offered a spot on the national team, but declined to ride with his own team at a race in NZ.
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05 May 2009 08:39

Argon Man wrote:IMO Ceramica should be in and Diquigiovanni should be out after the olympic positive with Rebellin


Except, at the time, he was another Gerolsteiner rider.;)

I cannot remember the last time that either the Italian or French national champ was excluded from his home race.

Also, the actually have a contender for the GC top 10 classment, in Gianpaolo Caruso.

They qualify in every respect, including UCI wildcard status because their bio passports are in order.

What message is sent, when someone who is so outspoken on PED's gets excluded and Ricco's old boys get a last minute invite?

As for confusing Simeoni and Simoni...well......:o
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05 May 2009 09:05

He spit in the soup and broke the omerta. The UCI and most federations have shown little interest in working with whistleblowers and the record has shown for the most part they'd rather they just shut up and serve their time.
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05 May 2009 10:57

BikeCentric wrote:He's just throwing all his cards on the table in a desperate bid to get into the Giro. For the Italians that's the ultimate goal and I'm sure he feels he's got some leverage as the National Champion being excluded. It's working too as it's high drama so the media will run with the story. Doubt his team gets in though as the organizer will just look even worse with a last minute change.


It's not Gilberto Simoni it's filipo simeoni he's the guy that lance kept on chasing down at the tour so he couldn't get in a breakaway
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