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    Doping in XC skiing

    Except well known dopers have indeed beaten the norwegians and swedes and convincingly so. Salt Lake City, Lahti to mention a couple. A couple of other factors: The norwegians generally perform worse in championships than in the world cup, while many of the athletes from suspected nations...
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    Doping in XC skiing

    That chart simply shows the share of athletes from each country in the database who has registered suspicious blood values. We don't know how many medals each country's suspicious athletes have won, nor do we know the degree of suspicion for the medal winners. While it's very clear from...
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    Doping in XC skiing

    It would be worrying if the experts frequently disagreed whether a set of samples of was suspicious or not. I'd hope this is generally not the case, so long as one's agreed on the threshold for suspicion. The fact that the best performing athletes have a much higher share of suspicious sets of...
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    Doping in XC skiing

    So of the big XC nations, the country with lowest percentage of suspicious athletes is Norway, which strangely is also the country who wins most. What a devastating blow to the narrative frequently pushed here and in other forums and media in other countries.
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    Doping in XC skiing

    Good post. Then, why do you imply that the norwegian media, in fact haven't called out for a release of all blood values and more transparency, when you have been given examples of the opposite? 'Transparency' (openness) is a word of honour in the norwegian press, and something that's...
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    Doping in XC skiing

    I don't like Esten O. Sæther one bit, I think he's a ******, actually, but for other reasons. However, that he hates doping, can't be denied. But to the point. The english translation is indeed funny, but it doesn't make much sense since the author makes use of norwegian idioms as well as...
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    Doping in XC skiing

    So now the claim is that Elofsson, who had his best championship in Lahti 2001, was the only clean one, while all the norwegians and everyone else were doping? Now that's a charming swede if I ever saw one. I thought the argument was that the norwegians couldn't possibly beat the doped up...
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    Doping in XC skiing

    You're probably not going to get any better evidence of this than the scientific articles you've been discussing. I could find numerous of old clips where it's evident that norwegian racers had very good glide, and just about always in the top. And just as it's clear. Glide doesn't explain...
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    Doping in XC skiing

    These are two quick articles that I found. You'll have to use google translate if you don't read norwegian: http://e24.no/kommentarer/spaltister/dopet-langrenn/20340623 http://fotball.aftenposten.no/kommentar/kjetil_kroksaeter/article270231.ece
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    Doping in XC skiing

    Why should bad journalism be awarded? The documentary was a farce no matter one's position in the matter. If someone makes an ignorant and stupid documentary about Greg Lemond being doped, is it undeserving of the democratic traditions of america, if they choose not to give credit to the...
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    Doping in XC skiing

    Okay, so here you are trying to spin on the picture these days created by the swedish media, that the "norwegians" are behaving suspiciously with regards to values from the 90s and general openness. The swedish team doctor is given a chance to publicize the values anonymously, explaining the...
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    Doping in XC skiing

    This is just ridiculously conspiratorical. I realize now that there is zero point in "discussing" this as the accusing party is so conspiratorically minded that whatever argument or piece of evidence that doesn't fit into their world view, just changes the aspects of the conspiracy or who were...
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    Nordic Skiing/Biathlon Thread

    Fantastic performance by Olsson today. Truly deserved. Northug had nothing extra to give today, and he shows as during tour de ski that his recovery is not his greatest strength. Could Cologna have followed Olsson without the fall? Could he have caught Olsson if he had risked more in the...
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    Doping in XC skiing

    Can you please elaborate? Why do you apply premises to my reasoning which were never there? The discussion was "biggest sport". I would also suggest that it's difficult to compare talent for football and talent for skiing. It's not always a competition. Most people stop playing football...
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    Doping in XC skiing

    Remember that it's much more usual for small kids who play football regularly to participate in organised football than it is for kids and others who ski regularly to participate in organized skiing. A large portion of those who participate in organised footballing is no more 'serious' with...