Recent content by Rob27172

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    Giro doping 2017

    Re: Why does this keep coming up Arm and leg warmers are completely irrelevant Most of the drugs these guys would inject would be subcutaneous So they would go into the upper inner thigh or the stomach. If you were to do a blood transfusion in a GT they would likely do it into a vein in the...
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    Team Ineos (Formerly the Sky thread)

    Re: Re: Yes please provide context so the sky apologists and skybots can argue the minutiae out of it and try to derail from the obvious fact staring everyone in the face
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    Shane Sutton - Team Sky coach

    Re: Re: So now every man who is stuck in the past where Men were Men and women were chained to the sink, should get a free pass and all the people who have moved on should shut up and let them be because some people think it is too much PC for their tastes. And after all, all these people are...
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    Team Ineos (Formerly the Sky thread)

    I mean it really is so simple to be a completely dominant team in any bike race. Most cyclists must be SO STUPID not to be able to work out that all they have to do is hide and come to the front at the end of the race. Only Festina, USPS and SKY seem to have worked it out in the past twenty...
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    Shane Sutton - Team Sky coach

    Re: Re: Sorry but that attitude is what has kept the whole macho culture of bullying alive and well for so long. In so many walks of life the idea is that it is the liberal / PC left sensitive types that complain and they should just suck it up and let the "real" workers get on with doing...
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    Geraint Thomas, the next british hope

    Re: Doesn't show he is doping, but it does show he has shocking taste in music!!!!
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    Team Ineos (Formerly the Sky thread)

    Will be interesting now the Murdoch empire is starting to lose money if they still continue to fund minority sports as much as the big boys. Could the funding be about to dry up for team skyhigh
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    Dave Brailsford - cycling genius

    Re: Re: I agree in principal, I am the same - give me someone that is open and honest and says up front "i will do whatever it takes to win" no ifs, no buts. I too hate the hypocrisy and outright lies of sky and DB et al. But that is a different argument to corruption, or cheating. There...
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    Dave Brailsford - cycling genius

    Re: Re: I deal with a lot of this stuff in a business context and frankly, I find it quite shocking how little accountability there appears to be. I'd give my eye teeth to do any of the above to any of the outfits in sports. Just for entertainment value. For the sake of space on the page I...
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    Dave Brailsford - cycling genius

    Re: Re: And I agree with both of you Hence why this discussion is one that will run and run as there is no simple answer to it. With or without money people will cheat. More money more compelling reasons to cheat, More money more people willing to play in the middle ground making money out...
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    Dave Brailsford - cycling genius

    Re: Re: But you get back to the fundamental question Why do people cheat? Cheating in sport has gone on long before medicinal assistance. Tour de france cyclists riding trains, Marathon runners taking the subway or switching with twins, Changing birth certificates to forge ages for a little...
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    Brits don't dope?

    Re: Re: Unfortunately it is not so simple. Amateurs dope, and a lot of them at that. The reasons have more to do with self esteem and achievement that financial rewards. To get to the top in any sport takes a huge internal belief and a dedication to something that is inconceivable to most...
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    Team Ineos (Formerly the Sky thread)

    Sniper I have one major issue with what you write here and it is the HUGE green envious chip you have sitting on your shoulder. "for me, the thought of - with all due respect - really dumb people like Messi and Ronaldo making so much money that the next 10 or 15 generations of their offspring...
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    Dave Brailsford - cycling genius

    If any of you had ever seen the management and coaching videos that DB has made it is clear that his mantra is to know all that is going on and to be completely involved in the team and on a day to day basis with all the goings on in the team. He speaks to this at length about how you can only...
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    Is Walsh on the Sky bandwagon?

    Re: Re: I hope they manage it, like you posted here. Sutton gets a coaching spot to AIS and DB steps down or gets a different role. give me Sky with its deep PED issues over Team Bahrain any day I dont want them to fall and fold What is so wrong with Team Bahrain?