Yes- you're right as rain- it is very simple. The guy returned a positive and that = sanction. TZ's sanction is now OVER and was accepted long ago. My post never was intended to be about the sanction itself, but about the positive feedback from USADA's wording of the notification of reduction...
Oh Doc, when you punish me so, I had to release the snipes. I'm sure you've endured worse.
No, thanks.
I didn't say that-another enhanced quote?
Cuz he's my favorite rider.
No, I'm quoting TZ's blog just like you.
There. I think that was sorta diet-snipe.
'Enhance a quote"--I like that. May I use it?
Well, with over 4800 posts in under two years(is that accurate?) you must have some sort of impact on something. You can possibly find comfort in that. At any rate, USADA's not going to see a few Clinic posts, get their feelings hurt and give TZ...
Yes, yes Doc--the quote--ok-so, you tend to downplay it's impact? I get that. I'm saying that USADA included one very nice sentence in their notification of reduction. A sentence that you have quoted a couple times now. It is a sentence that USADA did not have obligation to include, but that...
You're right. I was a bit selective there. I don't think you'll hold that against me.
When considering "likely's" and "mays" being located within a USADA notification of reduction--I think we both know very well what the jist of their message is. Reverse is not their favorite gear, it doesn't...
When USADA says in Zirbel's letter of reduction "his positive may have been caused by a contaminated nutritional supplement" that has nothing to do with case building, but everything to do with guilt or (in this case ) innocence. That's what I was referring to.
How do you know exactly when he learned about the doping? Hypothetical drift here...If you were a teammate of Zirbel's and you new he was absolutely clean, would you dope in front of him? Would you try to hide it from him? Bear in mind that O'Bee was fired from Bissell 3 1/2 months BEFORE Zirbel...
I don't feel like I'm twisting and turning, and I don't feel like a bs master either. Zirbel doesn't really seem like an angry little person to people familiar with the guy. USADA has recently agreed with what the guy has said from the beginning. Are they bs masters too?
Neither found the concrete evidence, yet Zirbel was sanctioned and Contador isn't yet-He's simply pointing out the glaring inconsistency. Why would that answer make you curious?
Zirbel did not say he'd never ever ever heard about DHEA--What he said was "I didn't really know what it was and I...
It occurs to me there's a very good chance that Zirbel has told the truth from day one, and like USADA said in their letter of reduction, there's a good possibility that the positive was accidental. (That's as close as you'll ever get to an admission of a bad bust from them) Also, it's pretty...
Cease Fire, boys. Don't you think Zirbel asked for and received permission? And, you realize it was a charity race event, right? They raised money to fight cancer and for the Red Cross. It's not like he took home a new Volvo, for crying out loud.
First off, Zirbel's degree is in Chemistry, not Biochemistry.
Second, He DID NOT say "I never heard of it before"--what he DID say was "I did not know what it was"--as in: He needed to research DHEA to understand what the USADA test results meant. None of us give a very good accounting...
Joe, I suppose it's fun to post "sarcastic translations" and fantasies about grassy knollls, but you should know that it doesn't get you or anyone else closer to the truth. I'm sure you are familiar with posters who attempt to demonize. Some probably deserve it.
Zirbel's statements have been...