Recent content by Vayerism

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    The Froome Files, test data only thread

    what the *** happened to temperature, did he ride into a fire?
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    Teams & Riders Froome Talk Only

    any danger they picked Salmeterol instead of salbutamol. That explains pretty much everything. Wrong version of the drug Ha!
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    Teams & Riders Froome Talk Only

    also interesting Although the design of most of these studies may not permit final conclusions to be drawn, their results suggest that the benefits of long acting β agonists are likely to be greatest among patients already taking inhaled corticosteroids, thus raising the possibility that a...
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    Teams & Riders Froome Talk Only

    "The results suggest that a β agonist facilitates the actions of inhaled corticosteroids, perhaps simply by improving airway drug deposition or, alternatively, by enhancing the anti-inflammatory effects of inhaled corticosteroids at a subcellular level.26" That's interesting
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    Teams & Riders Froome Talk Only

    So basically he'd need to be on another stronger beta 2, to limit the impact of sal, which would be alleviated by a strong corticosteroid. Maybe, but less sexy
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    Teams & Riders Froome Talk Only

    Well there goes my internal logic:)
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    Teams & Riders Froome Talk Only

    "In a recent study by Hancoxet al 50 clear evidence of tolerance to the bronchodilator action of inhaled β agonist was seen in 34 asthmatic patients following six weeks treatment with regular inhaled terbutaline in a dose of 1 mg four times daily. After inducing bronchoconstriction with...
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    Teams & Riders Froome Talk Only

    A few thoughts on the Froome case. It's very often "the topper" that gets people in trouble and its remarkable how often that topper comes from this group of drugs, Indurain, contador and now Froome. These beta 2's are obviously very important. On Froome, it was a clever move from sky with the...
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    Motor doping thread

    I've spoken with Floyd, he's asked me to tell you, "you're a full grown ***"
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    Motor doping thread

    Re: Moto-fraud: first rider caught No chance. One it's technologically a bit a bit mad, something small enough to fit in a bike and not be detected, but generate enough power to sustain a 197 km bike ride. Most Electric cars can't do that, and definitely not in 06. Wrong tree
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    Team Ineos (Formerly the Sky thread)

    Hi Sam, Even if the diagnosis is correct, the use of injected kenacort is a ridiculous treatment. 1. its meant to be taken via inhalation through the nose- for Rhinorrhea (hayfever) 2. It's an absolute last resort i.e. the patient is in hospital here is the indication for use in asthma patient...
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    CMS Doping in sport revelations/discussion

    presumably everytime you've been given a steroid injection they 1. wrote it on your medical record (they didn't) 2. checked the drug out of the pharmacy (they didn't) and 3. checked that the drug was available (they did) and finally if you were a professional athlete they'd have to do all of...
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    The Froome Files, test data only thread

    KB You'll struggle to find a post where I state my presentation of this data is anything other than interesting, because it is, well, I think it is. I've also not claimed a high level of accuracy, sticking "est" next to everything that is estimated or worse "Circa". I stated in my last point...
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    The Froome Files, test data only thread

    You're missing the point. The data that is being used is coming from doped athletes, so the impact would be greater without blood doping. what I am presenting is the values (est). that are required IF Froome is clean, not if he is doped. doped is easy, I could write that in a second. clean is...
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    The Froome Files, test data only thread

    We would need the actual pre tour values to draw any meaningful conclusion. 1 point per week is fairly typical for a GT, see Horner, Rasmussen or Hamilton (in reference to why its three bags/tour). Though it varies obviously. It can also be 10-12% with the majority in the first week, as you...