2013 Giro D'Italia Astana train vs. Sky Train

[Motion]

Let's talk about this.
Without Brajkovic Astana looks not so solid.

 

[Zam_Olyas]

Why do we still need to compare other teams with SKy in a GT, they are the best and i think that have been established awhile ago.

 

[Ferminal]

I vote for Liquigas!

Aru does look the goods though, but if Astana are trying to train it they have failed already.

 

[jens_attacks]

who cares? trains won't last with androids and vini fantini around

 

[Zam_Olyas]

Of course, liquigas will have a pseudo train again but basso will not disappoint this time.

 

[Netserk]

The Neon Cats will destroy all opposition.

 

[The Hitch]

Doesnt matter how good nibalis team is. Sky will ttt the whole race and Astana, will spend the whole race behind them. Nibalis getting a free ride to the mtf either way.

 

[Afrank]

Sky train, won't matter though. Nibbles won't need a train, he'll be off the front.

 

[Vino attacks everyone]

AStana obviously
Aru and Tiralongo to singelhandedly destroy the skyborgs

 

[Netserk]

Added a poll to the thread.


'Cause polls are awesome

 

[cineteq]

Doesnt matter how good nibalis team is. Sky will ttt the whole race and Astana, will spend the whole race behind them. Nibalis getting a free ride to the mtf either way.

It's a possibility, but historical data doesn't show me that it'll be the case.

 

[brilleaben]

It's a possibility, but historical data doesn't show me that it'll be the case.

Common sense does, though.

 

[maltiv]

Astana's advantage is that Sky most certainly will do all the work on the flat and the early climbs. Thus Astana will probably have more domestiques in the final than Sky will have. However, Henao is probably worth more than the 3 best domestiques from Astana...

 

[airstream]

No Brajkovic?? It's the end...

 

[Pippo_San]

Yep without Brajko Nibbles won't even end in the top 5.
Game over.

 

[Jelantik]

Yep without Brajko Nibbles won't even end in the top 5.
Game over.

i wonder why not put birdsong and brajko to help nibbles? It's not like birdsong will be able to be top 5 in TDF anyway. He is lucky if he can get top 10

 

[TANK91]

i wonder why not put birdsong and brajko to help nibbles? It's not like birdsong will be able to be top 5 in TDF anyway. He is lucky if he can get top 10

Is birdsong Fuglsang?, if it is I cant wait for the big fail I want even put him above Braijkoic and that say's a lot lol.

 

[SafeBet]

Birdsong and Brajko are not better domestiques than Agnoli and Vanotti. They're better riders, yes, but doesn't necessarily translates to being a better domestique. Add that they're clearly out of shape, unhealthy in Brajko's case, probably not completely committed to helping Nibbles anyway.

And it's not like you need a train to beat Sky's train. It's unbeatable. Different strategies are required. I'm perfectly happy with Tira and Kessi, I'm sure both will prove very helpful for the aggressive tactics Astana will need to derail the train.

 

[maxmartin]

who cares? trains won't last with androids and vini fantini around

plus one

 

[Vino attacks everyone]

Nibali only needs a couple of guys with him all the way in the high mountians, he got 1 for sure in Tira, and Aru looked very promising in Trentino (Agnoli on a good day is also capable of being up there for quite some time, Nibalis Jesus HErnandez)

 

[hfer07]

trains won't work in Il Giro- are you crazy?
Wiggo & Sky may try to apply that formula, but the terrain, the narrow roads, the weather conditions & the rivals will under mind that approach.

 

[Afrank]

i wonder why not put birdsong and brajko to help nibbles? It's not like birdsong will be able to be top 5 in TDF anyway. He is lucky if he can get top 10

They're sending Jakob to the Tour as leader instead of domestique at the Giro, to shut him up already. They're also sending Guardini for the sprints in the Tour, so that should tell you how much faith Astana has in him to deliver on his promises.

 

[jens_attacks]

everyone knows that astana will have only one leader in july

it's not the kangaroo

 

[burning]

everyone knows that astana will have only one leader in july

it's not the kangaroo

I get it

The kid is the leader