2013 Vuelta Ciclista al Pais Vasco, Stage 2: Elgoibar - Vitoria 170.2 KM

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the flattest stage of the race and there aren't many sprinters around
 
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Candidates:
Ruben Perez
Paul Martens
Enrico Gasparotto
Francesco Gavazzi
Angel Vicioso
Matteo Montaguti
Nicolas Roche
Diego Ulissi
Philippe Gilbert
Michael Albasini
Michael Matthews
Daryl Impey
Simon Gerrans
Dennis Vanendert
Daniele Ratto
Simon Geschke
Koldo Fernandez
Michel Kreder
Pim Ligthart

So after I hyped half of the peloton for the win, who is the other guy that will win? :D
 
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Hope Gilbert can take his first win, but thinking it will probably be Gerrans or Gavazzi. Could see Ulissi take it as well.
 
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Velits will be there too at the and again. I am not sure he will be able to outsprint Gerrans this time tough.
 
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The good news: we have about 50 riders at +4 minutes, so perhaps a strong break can play a role today.

Kadri from a long distance break.
 

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SKY to employ tactical formation OMEGA-ZETA-ALPHA and ride perfectly alligned (Richie Porte for the win)

Yea yea i know they are a couple of men down but they have JTL.
 
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HiCadence said:
SKY to employ tactical formation OMEGA-ZETA-ALPHA and ride perfectly alligned (Richie Porte for the win)

Yea yea i know they are a couple of men down but they have JTL.
Nothing with Sagan?
 
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This seems like a perfect chance for Matthews, so maybe Greenedge will fly in Howard in order to waste Matthews' talent once more.
 
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HiCadence said:
Why would there be? He's not here....you must think i hate him or something.

Well his brother is, so the opportunity was there ... You've already compared their personalities once, although you can't possibly know, what personality and character Juraj has.

Don't get me wrong, you have full right for your opinions, but you also can't wonder if some people make some comments about it from time to time.
 

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Well actually i like Juraj so i don't see the point in discriminating against him just because his brother is a full blown tit.
 
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If Matthews can make it i will say him. If not- another OGE person, Kreder, an Astana rider or Gilbert.
 
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HiCadence said:
Well actually i like Juraj so i don't see the point in discriminating against him just because his brother is a full blown tit.

I didn't say you should discriminate him. On the contrary I would expect you could be telling how classy rider he is, despite the fact there is no reason to say anything like that about him, or better to say anything about him. Unfortunately, he showed no results worth mentioning so far. Despite I would be very pleased to see him deliver at least something, as I am fan of everyone that represents my country. Nevertheless, I am realist too and realized, that he is not worth pro team and the only reason is that he is in one is his brother. I understand former liquigas hiring him because there could have been some promise based on his brother's results, but he has shown it is not the case. Although he's quite good rider concerning Slovakia, he's not there if the profi peloton is concerned. And I have my doubts he will ever be.

Is there anything special why you like him? If he wasn't brother of PS, i would never heard of him, and probably you wouldn't too.
 

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I don't need a reason to like Juraj if i only liked people that only ever win i'd think that would make me rather shallow.

People don't like me here because they are Peter Sagan fanboys and can't take my criticism at the end of the day that's there problem.

People were saying before the classics started that he was going to win most of them that he was just that superior...Look how that turned out *sigh* if people didn't blow him out of porportion i wouldn't have such an opinion on the man plain and simple.
 
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greenedge said:
If Matthews can make it i will say him. If not- another OGE person, Kreder, an Astana rider or Gilbert.

Won't they ride for Gerrans? I know they're here for stage wins and have no GC aspirations, but Gerrans probably has as good a chance as Matthews in a sprint and it would seem bizarre to throw the leader's jersey away to Gavazzi or Vicioso or even maybe Velits by not giving Gerrans the support of the team in a sprint (that's assuming of course that the GC will be decided by cumulative placings after today - 17 of them on the same time).
 
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HiCadence said:
I don't need a reason to like Juraj if i only liked people that only ever win i'd think that would make me rather shallow.

People don't like me here because they are Peter Sagan fanboys and can't take my criticism at the end of the day that's there problem.

People were saying before the classics started that he was going to win most of them that he was just that superior...Look how that turned out *sigh* if people didn't blow him out of porportion i wouldn't have such an opinion on the man plain and simple.

Wow, you should go to politics. So many words and still, no answer to my question. Yes, like only winners makes anybody shallow, cause it's easy to support anyone that is most likely to win. On the otherhand, in my opinion, making statements about someone he knows about very little is shallow too. As is laughing without reason.
 

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What's the question? Why do i like Juraj given the fact you never hear of him, He hasn't won anything and according to you talentless :rolleyes:

It's pretty simple really... he doesn't act like a **** in the public eye and he's a domestique i've always had great admiration for the team domestique.

Good enough answer for you or not?
 
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HiCadence said:
What's the question? Why do i like Juraj given the fact you never hear of him, He hasn't won anything and according to you talentless :rolleyes:

It's pretty simple really... he doesn't act like a **** in the public eye and he's a domestique i've always had great admiration for the team domestique.

Good enough answer for you or not?
Translation: I don't know anything about him, other than that he's Peter Sagan's less talented brother who doesn't appear on television, and thus hasn't yet had the chance to annoy me.
 
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HiCadence said:
I don't need a reason to like Juraj if i only liked people that only ever win i'd think that would make me rather shallow.

People don't like me here because they are Peter Sagan fanboys and can't take my criticism at the end of the day that's there problem.

People were saying before the classics started that he was going to win most of them that he was just that superior...Look how that turned out *sigh* if people didn't blow him out of porportion i wouldn't have such an opinion on the man plain and simple.

On the contrary. We love you and your obsession by Peter. You are Peter´s best promoter here. ;)