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2016 Giro CQ Game

Must be about time to start this...

Team of exactly nine riders
Budget Budget will be 3500 points. If you don't leave your team until the last moment, I'll be able to warn you of errors: if it is later than my going to bed on Thursday night, I'm unlikely to able to help.

Price of riders
CQ current score as at 1st May, with points accumulated over 12 months leading up to that date, for which the update file that CQ release on Monday 2nd will be considered definitive.
There is a dropbox spreadsheet of riders likely to participate and their prices for the game, and a facility for checking the team total.

Submitting your team
By personal message to me, either here or at VR.
Please send the team with names formatted as per CQ. (Surname[space]Forename and nothing else: Spanish/Portuguese names need particular care, no accents or other diacritics) It makes an enormous difference to the efficiency of adding teams. If you use the dropbox spreadsheet it will be a simple copy and paste job.

I have lodged my team with Premier Andrew (the first person to submit a team) so that there can be confidence that my inevitable failure did not come about by selecting badly from among the best of everyone else's ideas, but came from original bad picks.

Deadline
The start of the race, which I believe to be Friday 6th May at 12:45 (UK time) (but don't expect any analysis of teams until I get in from work that evening).

Scoring
Points issued according to the points tables of CQ (column GT2). Note there are no points issued for the young rider category.

Entries to 7 am Fri 6th (less than 6 hours left)
18Valve
ArchieBoy
Armchair_Cyclist
Barmaher
Bbass
BicycleBoy
Capt_Cavman
Carlo_Algatrensig
Caruut
Comodoro
Crevaison
Del1962
DJW
GeraintTooFast
GodChild
GPBlanco
Hakkie2
Hugo87
Jancouver
Joelsim
Josedin
JosephD
JustSomeGuy
Kazistuta
Laarsland
Leadbelly
LightBing
LosBrolin
Mellow_Velo
Minessa
Murali
Murrjt
NairoQ
Not_My_Circus
Postmanhat
PremierAndrew
Rote_Laterne
Scrool07
Search
SemirS
Shalgo
Tigerion
TomJelte
Torcia86
Trudgin
Vladimir
Yellow_Knight

47 teams so far: all within budget and with no non-runners.

Good luck to all.
 
A few more into the inbox overnight, now 25 entries all of which are correct.

62 out of the 198 presumed starters have been selected, 29 as unique picks, 7 on 10 or more teams, and the most popular pick is on 17 of them.

About 29 1/2 hours to go as of the timestamp on this message: don't miss out.
 
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I would like to participate but i can't send a PM, i think it's because i don't have enough posts on the forum. Is there any other way to send you my team? Can i post it here?
 

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I would like to participate but i can't send a PM, i think it's because i don't have enough posts on the forum. Is there any other way to send you my team? Can i post it here?

You need 10 posts I believe so you could post in a few threads and then try.
 
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SemirS said:
I would like to participate but i can't send a PM, i think it's because i don't have enough posts on the forum. Is there any other way to send you my team? Can i post it here?

You need 10 posts I believe so you could post in a few threads and then try.

Thanks. Here is one, five to go. :D
 
5 1/2 hours to go as of the timestamp on this post: please check the list in the OP to make sure your team has arrived safely in my inbox.

From this point, I can't return your team for review if it has budget or selection errors: please double check if you have left it to the 11th hour.

47 teams in, 86 riders selected, of which 39 are unique picks, 3 are on 20 or more teams, and one is on over 30.
 
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NIBALI Vincenzo
URAN URAN Rigoberto
KUDUS GHEBREMEDHIN Merhawi
BETANCUR GOMEZ Carlos Alberto
HOWSON Damien
PERAUD Jean-Christophe
ATAPUMA HURTADO Jhon Darwin
CICCONE Giulio
NIEMIEC Przemyslaw
 
In the end, we had 51 teams, and here they are (Riders ordered by descending price, asterisks show unique picks):
18-Valve
NIBALI Vincenzo
LANDA MEANA Mikel
KRUIJSWIJK Steven
FOLIFOROV Alexander
KADRI Blel
RUFFONI Nicola
SEROV Alexander *
RODRIGUEZ MARTIN Cristian *
KOLOBNEV Alexandr

Amis Velo
NIBALI Vincenzo
URAN URAN Rigoberto
DE MARCHI Alessandro
BETANCUR GOMEZ Carlos Alberto
PELUCCHI Matteo
PERAUD Jean-Christophe
ATAPUMA HURTADO Jhon Darwin
NIEMIEC Przemyslaw
BATTAGLIN Enrico

ArchieBoy
LANDA MEANA Mikel
URAN URAN Rigoberto
FUGLSANG Jakob
FRAILE MATARRANZ Omar
BELLETTI Manuel *
DE MARCHI Alessandro
PIRAZZI Stefano
PELUCCHI Matteo
NIEMIEC Przemyslaw

Armchair Cyclist
NIBALI Vincenzo
LANDA MEANA Mikel
PERAUD Jean-Christophe
ATAPUMA HURTADO Jhon Darwin
NIEMIEC Przemyslaw
BATTAGLIN Enrico
BONGIORNO Francesco Manuel
VAN POPPEL Boy
KOLOBNEV Alexandr

B'bass
LANDA MEANA Mikel
ZAKARIN Ilnur
JUNGELS Bob
DE MARCHI Alessandro
KUDUS GHEBREMEDHIN Merhawi
BETANCUR GOMEZ Carlos Alberto
PERAUD Jean-Christophe
FOLIFOROV Alexander
RUFFONI Nicola

Barmaher
ZAKARIN Ilnur
URAN URAN Rigoberto
JUNGELS Bob
FIRSANOV Sergey
VAN EMDEN Jos *
BOBRIDGE Jack *
WYSS Marcel *
NIEMIEC Przemyslaw
BERLATO Giacomo *

Bicycle Boy
URAN URAN Rigoberto
KRUIJSWIJK Steven
VIVIANI Elia
JUNGELS Bob
FIRSANOV Sergey
BUSATO Matteo
NIEMIEC Przemyslaw
ERSHOV Artur *
KOLOBNEV Alexandr

Blues in the Bottle
MAJKA Rafal
URAN URAN Rigoberto
JUNGELS Bob
KITTEL Marcel
EWAN Caleb
SENNI Manuel
VAN POPPEL Boy
TOSATTO Matteo
ALAFACI Eugenio


CaptCavman

LANDA MEANA Mikel
URAN URAN Rigoberto
KITTEL Marcel
DE MARCHI Alessandro
FERRARI Roberto *
PIRAZZI Stefano
PERAUD Jean-Christophe
ATAPUMA HURTADO Jhon Darwin
ZILIOLI Gianfranco *

Carlo_Algatrensig

LANDA MEANA Mikel
ZAKARIN Ilnur
KITTEL Marcel
FORMOLO Davide
BETANCUR GOMEZ Carlos Alberto
PERAUD Jean-Christophe
HEPBURN Michael *
RUFFONI Nicola
KOLOBNEV Alexandr

Caruut
CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban
POZZOVIVO Domenico
FIRSANOV Sergey
BUSATO Matteo
BOLE Grega *
DE MARCHI Alessandro
PIRAZZI Stefano
NIEMIEC Przemyslaw
BATTAGLIN Enrico

Comodoro
NIBALI Vincenzo
MAJKA Rafal
URAN URAN Rigoberto
BONGIORNO Francesco Manuel
PORSEV Alexander
KADRI Blel
SIMION Paolo
RUFFONI Nicola
KOLOBNEV Alexandr

Crevaison
ZAKARIN Ilnur
POZZOVIVO Domenico
URAN URAN Rigoberto
FIRSANOV Sergey
PELUCCHI Matteo
PERAUD Jean-Christophe
ATAPUMA HURTADO Jhon Darwin
NIEMIEC Przemyslaw
RUFFONI Nicola

Del1962
POZZOVIVO Domenico
URAN URAN Rigoberto
KITTEL Marcel
KRUIJSWIJK Steven
GENIEZ Alexandre
BETANCUR GOMEZ Carlos Alberto
PERAUD Jean-Christophe
RUFFONI Nicola
KOLOBNEV Alexandr

DJW
LANDA MEANA Mikel
URAN URAN Rigoberto
KITTEL Marcel
KRUIJSWIJK Steven
PELUCCHI Matteo
PERAUD Jean-Christophe
BATTAGLIN Enrico
DEIGNAN Philip
KOLOBNEV Alexandr

Fauniera
LANDA MEANA Mikel
POZZOVIVO Domenico
KITTEL Marcel
FIRSANOV Sergey
BETANCUR GOMEZ Carlos Alberto
PELUCCHI Matteo
CICCONE Giulio
RUFFONI Nicola
KOLOBNEV Alexandr

Geraint TooFast
NIBALI Vincenzo
LANDA MEANA Mikel
DUPONT Hubert *
PERAUD Jean-Christophe
ATAPUMA HURTADO Jhon Darwin
NIEMIEC Przemyslaw
BONGIORNO Francesco Manuel
RUFFONI Nicola
KOLOBNEV Alexandr

GodChild
LANDA MEANA Mikel
URAN URAN Rigoberto
VIVIANI Elia
HESJEDAL Ryder
BETANCUR GOMEZ Carlos Alberto
PELUCCHI Matteo
PERAUD Jean-Christophe
BATTAGLIN Enrico
KOLOBNEV Alexandr

GPBlanco
ZAKARIN Ilnur
MAJKA Rafal
KRUIJSWIJK Steven
DE MARCHI Alessandro
KUDUS GHEBREMEDHIN Merhawi
PIRAZZI Stefano
PELUCCHI Matteo
PERAUD Jean-Christophe
BATTAGLIN Enrico

Hakkie2
LANDA MEANA Mikel
ZAKARIN Ilnur
URAN URAN Rigoberto
BETANCUR GOMEZ Carlos Alberto
PIRAZZI Stefano
PERAUD Jean-Christophe
BATTAGLIN Enrico
AGNOLI Valerio
KOLOBNEV Alexandr


Hugo87
NIBALI Vincenzo
LANDA MEANA Mikel
HESJEDAL Ryder
PERAUD Jean-Christophe
BELKOV Maxim
KADRI Blel
HERNANDEZ BLAZQUEZ Jesus
RUFFONI Nicola
KOLOBNEV Alexandr

Jancouver
LANDA MEANA Mikel
POZZOVIVO Domenico
AMADOR BIKKAZAKOVA Andrey *
ROCHE Nicolas *
DE MARCHI Alessandro
BETANCUR GOMEZ Carlos Alberto
PIRAZZI Stefano
PERAUD Jean-Christophe
OVECHKIN Artem *

Joelsim
LANDA MEANA Mikel
ZAKARIN Ilnur
KITTEL Marcel
BETANCUR GOMEZ Carlos Alberto
KÜNG Stefan
PELUCCHI Matteo
BONGIORNO Francesco Manuel
MARTINEZ POVEDA Daniel Felipe
RUFFONI Nicola

Josedin
VIVIANI Elia
EWAN Caleb
FIRSANOV Sergey
SBARAGLI Kristian *
HESJEDAL Ryder
CLARKE Simon *
DE MARCHI Alessandro
HENAO GOMEZ Sebastian
PERAUD Jean-Christophe

JosephD
LANDA MEANA Mikel
POZZOVIVO Domenico
URAN URAN Rigoberto
BETANCUR GOMEZ Carlos Alberto
POZZATO Filippo *
PIRAZZI Stefano
PELUCCHI Matteo
PERAUD Jean-Christophe
PORSEV Alexander

Just Some Guy
NIBALI Vincenzo
LANDA MEANA Mikel
ANTON HERNANDEZ Igor
DE MARCHI Alessandro
NIEMIEC Przemyslaw
AGNOLI Valerio
BELKOV Maxim
ALAFACI Eugenio
KADRI Blel

Kabete
LANDA MEANA Mikel
URAN URAN Rigoberto
KRUIJSWIJK Steven
FORMOLO Davide
DE MARCHI Alessandro
BETANCUR GOMEZ Carlos Alberto
PERAUD Jean-Christophe
ATAPUMA HURTADO Jhon Darwin
DEIGNAN Philip

Kazistuta
VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro *
URAN URAN Rigoberto
PELUCCHI Matteo
NIEMIEC Przemyslaw
MARTINEZ POVEDA Daniel Felipe
FOLIFOROV Alexander
RYBALKIN Aleksey *
KADRI Blel
RUFFONI Nicola

Laarsland
LANDA MEANA Mikel
MAJKA Rafal
KITTEL Marcel
DE MARCHI Alessandro
ZOIDL Riccardo *
PERAUD Jean-Christophe
ATAPUMA HURTADO Jhon Darwin
NIEMIEC Przemyslaw
RUFFONI Nicola

LeadBelly
LANDA MEANA Mikel
ZAKARIN Ilnur
HESJEDAL Ryder
BETANCUR GOMEZ Carlos Alberto
HANSEN Adam *
PELUCCHI Matteo
PERAUD Jean-Christophe
CICCONE Giulio
NIEMIEC Przemyslaw

LightBing
ZAKARIN Ilnur
URAN URAN Rigoberto
KITTEL Marcel
KRUIJSWIJK Steven
OSS Daniel *
PELUCCHI Matteo
PORSEV Alexander
KADRI Blel
RUFFONI Nicola

Los Brolin
LANDA MEANA Mikel
POZZOVIVO Domenico
KRUIJSWIJK Steven
HESJEDAL Ryder
FORMOLO Davide
PELUCCHI Matteo
PERAUD Jean-Christophe
RUFFONI Nicola
KOLOBNEV Alexandr

Mellow Velo
ZAKARIN Ilnur
URAN URAN Rigoberto
KITTEL Marcel
FIRSANOV Sergey
DE MARCHI Alessandro
BETANCUR GOMEZ Carlos Alberto
KÜNG Stefan
KADRI Blel
RUFFONI Nicola

Minessa
ZAKARIN Ilnur
URAN URAN Rigoberto
KITTEL Marcel
FUGLSANG Jakob
BETANCUR GOMEZ Carlos Alberto
PELUCCHI Matteo
PERAUD Jean-Christophe
BATTAGLIN Enrico
RUFFONI Nicola

Murali
ZAKARIN Ilnur
POZZOVIVO Domenico
URAN URAN Rigoberto
FUGLSANG Jakob
ANTON HERNANDEZ Igor
DE MARCHI Alessandro
SABATINI Fabio *
CAPECCHI Eros *
KOLOBNEV Alexandr

Murrjt
LANDA MEANA Mikel
KITTEL Marcel
VIVIANI Elia
FORMOLO Davide
BETANCUR GOMEZ Carlos Alberto
PIRAZZI Stefano
KÜNG Stefan
PERAUD Jean-Christophe
BATTAGLIN Enrico

NairoQ
NIBALI Vincenzo
URAN URAN Rigoberto
KUDUS GHEBREMEDHIN Merhawi
BETANCUR GOMEZ Carlos Alberto
HOWSON Damien
PERAUD Jean-Christophe
ATAPUMA HURTADO Jhon Darwin
CICCONE Giulio
NIEMIEC Przemyslaw

Not My Circus
URAN URAN Rigoberto
KITTEL Marcel
FIRSANOV Sergey
FUGLSANG Jakob
HESJEDAL Ryder
FORMOLO Davide
BETANCUR GOMEZ Carlos Alberto
VOROBYEV Anton
RUFFONI Nicola

Postmanhat
LANDA MEANA Mikel
CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban
HESJEDAL Ryder
MONFORT Maxime *
KOSHEVOY Ilia *
PIRAZZI Stefano
PERAUD Jean-Christophe
ATAPUMA HURTADO Jhon Darwin
BELKOV Maxim

PremierAndrew
LANDA MEANA Mikel
Uran Uran Rigoberto
Viviani Elia
Hesjedal Ryder
DE MARCHI Alessandro
Pelucchi Matteo
PERAUD Jean-Christophe
Atapuma Hurtado Jhon Darwin
KOLOBNEV Alexandr

Rote Laterne

NIBALI Vincenzo
LANDA MEANA Mikel
BETANCUR GOMEZ Carlos Alberto
PERAUD Jean-Christophe
SIUTSOU Kanstantsin *
MARTINEZ POVEDA Daniel Felipe
PORSEV Alexander
RUFFONI Nicola
KOLOBNEV Alexandr

Scrool07
ZAKARIN Ilnur
MAJKA Rafal
VIVIANI Elia
FORMOLO Davide
ANTON HERNANDEZ Igor
BETANCUR GOMEZ Carlos Alberto
MEZGEC Luka *
PERAUD Jean-Christophe
RUFFONI Nicola

Search
NIBALI Vincenzo
URAN URAN Rigoberto
KITTEL Marcel
PELUCCHI Matteo
PERAUD Jean-Christophe
NIEMIEC Przemyslaw
FOLIFOROV Alexander
RUFFONI Nicola
KOLOBNEV Alexandr

SemirS
LANDA MEANA Mikel
URAN URAN Rigoberto
KRUIJSWIJK Steven
GENIEZ Alexandre
PERAUD Jean-Christophe
ATAPUMA HURTADO Jhon Darwin
NIEMIEC Przemyslaw
VOROBYEV Anton
RUFFONI Nicola

Shalgo
LANDA MEANA Mikel
ZAKARIN Ilnur
FIRSANOV Sergey
DE MARCHI Alessandro
WISNIOWSKI Lukasz *
HOWSON Damien
PERAUD Jean-Christophe
ATAPUMA HURTADO Jhon Darwin
RUFFONI Nicola

Tigerion
LANDA MEANA Mikel
URAN URAN Rigoberto
KITTEL Marcel
FORMOLO Davide
ANTON HERNANDEZ Igor
HENAO GOMEZ Sebastian
PERAUD Jean-Christophe
MARTINEZ POVEDA Daniel Felipe
VAN POPPEL Boy

Tom-Jelte
NIBALI Vincenzo
MAJKA Rafal
URAN URAN Rigoberto
PERAUD Jean-Christophe
TOSATTO Matteo
DEIGNAN Philip
HERNANDEZ BLAZQUEZ Jesus
RUFFONI Nicola
KOLOBNEV Alexandr

Torcia86
MAJKA Rafal
URAN URAN Rigoberto
GENIEZ Alexandre
HESJEDAL Ryder
FORMOLO Davide
BETANCUR GOMEZ Carlos Alberto
PIRAZZI Stefano
PELUCCHI Matteo
BATTAGLIN Enrico

Trudgin
Colbrelli Sonny *
Zakarin Ilnur
Visconti Giovanni *
Cunego Damiano
BETANCUR GOMEZ Carlos Alberto
Peraud Jean-Christophe
Andreetta Simone *
Agnoli Valerio
Kolobnev Alexandr

Vladimir
MAJKA Rafal
POZZOVIVO Domenico
URAN URAN Rigoberto
GENIEZ Alexandre
CUNEGO Damiano
ANTON HERNANDEZ Igor
PELUCCHI Matteo
BONGIORNO Francesco Manuel
KOLOBNEV Alexandr

Yellow Knight
LANDA MEANA Mikel
ZAKARIN Ilnur
KITTEL Marcel
FRAILE MATARRANZ Omar
VERONA QUINTANILLA Carlos *
ATAPUMA HURTADO Jhon Darwin
PORSEV Alexander
SENNI Manuel
SIMION Paolo
 
The major tactical spends

I was just thinking as I drove to work yesterday that it is a compliment to his consistent high scores that I have never seen Valverde named as a pick in one of these games, and then I got home and found that someone had picked him.

Who else did we splash out more than 750 points on?

Valverde alone: Kazistuta

Nibali
with Landa: 18-Valve, Armchair_Cyclist, Geraint TooFast, Hugo87, JustSomeGuy, Rote Laterne
with Majka: Comodoro, Tom-Jelte
alone: Amis Velo, Nairo Q, Search
Landa
with Zakarin: Bbass, Carlo_Algatrensig, Hakkie2, Joelsim, LeadBelly, Shalgo, Yellow Knight
with Majka: Laarsland
with Chaves: Postmanhat
alone: ArchieBoy, Capt_Cavman, DJW, Fauniera, GodChild, Jancouver, JosephD, Kabete, LosBrolin, Murrjt, PremierAndrew, SemirS, Tigerion

Colbrelli with Zakarin: Trudgin

Zakharin with Majka: GPBlanco, Scrool07
alone: Barmaher, Crevaison, LightBing, Mellow Velo, Minessa, Murali

Majka alone: Blues in the Bottle, Torcia86, Vladimir

Chaves alone: Caruut

No rider over 750 pts Bicycle Boy, Del1962, Josedin, Not My Circus
 
Frequency of picks
There are 198 riders in the race: 86 of them are in the field for this game. 35 of them, asterisked above, are unique picks, the others are:

33 teams PERAUD Jean-Christophe
28 LANDA MEANA Mikel, URAN URAN Rigoberto
23 RUFFONI Nicola
21 BETANCUR GOMEZ Carlos Alberto
20 KOLOBNEV Alexandr
18 PELUCCHI Matteo
16 KITTEL Marcel, ZAKARIN Ilnur
15 DE MARCHI Alessandro, NIEMIEC Przemyslaw
13 ATAPUMA HURTADO Jhon Darwin
11 NIBALI Vincenzo
10 BATTAGLIN Enrico, PIRAZZI Stefano
9 FIRSANOV Sergey, HESJEDAL Ryder, KRUIJSWIJK Steven, POZZOVIVO Domenico
8 FORMOLO Davide, MAJKA Rafal
7 KADRI Blel
6 VIVIANI Elia
5 ANTON HERNANDEZ Igor, BONGIORNO Francesco Manuel, PORSEV Alexander
4 FOLIFOROV Alexander, FUGLSANG Jakob, GENIEZ Alexandre, JUNGELS Bob, MARTINEZ POVEDA Daniel Felipe
3 AGNOLI Valerio, BELKOV Maxim, CICCONE Giulio, DEIGNAN Philip, KUDUS GHEBREMEDHIN Merhawi, KÜNG Stefan, VAN POPPEL Boy
2 ALAFACI Eugenio, BUSATO Matteo, CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban, CUNEGO Damiano, EWAN Caleb, FRAILE MATARRANZ Omar, HENAO GOMEZ Sebastian, HERNANDEZ BLAZQUEZ Jesus, HOWSON Damien, SENNI Manuel, SIMION Paolo, TOSATTO Matteo, VOROBYEV Anton


The top 9 riders would have been a bit overbudget, so I have swapped the less expensive of those with 16 pick for the less expensive of those with 15 to give an on-budget (and in fact the cheapest team in the game) as the Collective Wisdom squad as:
LANDA MEANA Mikel
ZAKARIN Ilnur
URAN URAN Rigoberto
BETANCUR GOMEZ Carlos Alberto
PELUCCHI Matteo
PERAUD Jean-Christophe
NIEMIEC Przemyslaw
RUFFONI Nicola
KOLOBNEV Alexandr
 
Popularity table

The Collective Wisdom team would have had a cumulative value of 202 picks for its riders. The equivalent scores for "real" teams is:
1 GodChild 173
2 PremierAndrew 170
3 Hakkie2 169
3 Minessa 169
5 Search 168
6 Carlo_Algatrensig 166
7 DJW 165
8 AmisVelo 164
8 Crevaison 164
10 Del1962 163
11 Kabete 158
12 LosBrolin 157
13 SemirS 155
14 JosephD 153
15 Laarsland 152
16 GeraintTooFast 149
17 Bbass 147
17 Fauniera 147
19 Rote_Laterne 146
20 Capt_Cavman 145
21 Leadbelly 144
22 Shalgo 140
23 Armchair_Cyclist 138
23 Mellow_Velo 138
25 Hugo87 136
26 Murrjt 135
27 Joelsim 134
28 TomJelte 130
29 NairoQ 129
30 Tigerion 127
31 LightBing 123
32 GPBlanco 122
33 ArchieBoy 121
33 Scrool07 121
35 Not_My_Circus 120
36 Jancouver 119
37 Torcia86 116
38 Comodoro 109
39 18Valve 104
40 Kazistuta 101
41 Postmanhat 100
42 Murali 99
42 Vladimir 99
44 Trudgin 98
45 BicycleBoy 94
46 JustSomeGuy 89
47 Yellow_Knight 85
48 Josedin 78
49 Barmaher 76
50 Caruut 73
51 BluesInTheBottle 67

If you want to analyse the field further, the spreadsheet is here.
 
Jancouver said:
Thanks!

I'm quite surprised to be the only one having Amador ... (and Roche)
and your unique pick gets you an early Maglia Rosa.

Stage 1 The not-a-Prologue

This will not be the last stage that was not a priority target for any selection...

DUMOULIN Tom 88 0 team
ROGLIC Primoz 40 0 team
AMADOR BIKKAZAKOVA Andrey 25 1 team
LUDVIGSSON Tobias 15 0 team
KITTEL Marcel 10 16 teams
MOSER Moreno 7 0 team
JUNGELS Bob 5 4 teams
CANCELLARA Fabian 3 0 team
BRÄNDLE Matthias 2 0 team
DILLIER Silvan 1 0 team

1 Jancouver 25 (from Amador)
2 BluesInTheBottle 15 (Kittel + Jungels)
3= 15 other teams with Kittel 10
18= 3 Other teams with Jungels 5
21= everyone else 0
 
And as stated, I tried a daring tactic. Valverde is daamn expensive, but a GC win is worth almost seven stage wins (and Piti will definitely get some stage placings as well). He is likely to be the top point scorer in the giro (if he wins the GC that is), and pairing him with another sprint-capable GC rider in Uran (who's a serious top5 candidate) will in my logic be better than to pair Nibali with Landa.

That left room for two swing-and-miss sprinters in Pelucchi and Ruffoni (well, both of them might be out after 12 stages), breakaway artist Kadri, potential top20 and mountain jersey wearer Niemic and the three wid cards Martinez, Rybalkin (both decent in mountains, should be in breakaways) & Foliforov.

A fun experiment on my behalf, whereas I usually tend to play safe and stay on top of the popularity rankings.
 
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And as stated, I tried a daring tactic. Valverde is daamn expensive, but a GC win is worth almost seven stage wins (and Piti will definitely get some stage placings as well). He is likely to be the top point scorer in the giro (if he wins the GC that is), and pairing him with another sprint-capable GC rider in Uran (who's a serious top5 candidate) will in my logic be better than to pair Nibali with Landa.

That left room for two swing-and-miss sprinters in Pelucchi and Ruffoni (well, both of them might be out after 12 stages), breakaway artist Kadri, potential top20 and mountain jersey wearer Niemic and the three wid cards Martinez, Rybalkin (both decent in mountains, should be in breakaways) & Foliforov.

A fun experiment on my behalf, whereas I usually tend to play safe and stay on top of the popularity rankings.

Certainly an interesting tactic. personally I think the high cost is going to much, I think taking Landa (why I would say is on par with Piti for GC victory and add Kittel for the same price will have a better return.
Hell for the points you could take Landa and Uran and even if they both finish just outside the podium (4th and 5th) the still score more with double the chances for podium finishes and the like.
 
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All three:
NIBALI Vincenzo
URAN URAN Rigoberto
PERAUD Jean-Christophe
NIEMIEC Przemyslaw

Amis Velo and Search:
PELUCCHI Matteo

Amis Velo and I:
BETANCUR GOMEZ Carlos Alberto
ATAPUMA HURTADO Jhon Darwin

Other ones are 'unique': Amis Velo (DE MARCHI Alessandro, BATTAGLIN Enrico), NairoQ (KUDUS GHEBREMEDHIN Merhawi, HOWSON Damien, CICCONE Giulio), Search (KITTEL Marcel, FOLIFOROV Alexander, RUFFONI Nicola, KOLOBNEV Alexandr).
 
NairoQ said:
So the three 'Nibali only' teams are in fact all Nibali+Uran. I'll compare them later, always good to see to what choices it might come down.

You don't have any confidence in Landa?

I had considered including Uran in the major spends analysis, but there is more than 100 point price difference between Majka and the next selected (Visconti), with Pozzovivo and Uran more than 50 behind that. And then do I extend it further to Kittel and Kruijswijk? I decided to stick with my usual 2x average budget per rider.
 
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I have confidence in him, but not at that cost. Including him next to Nibali didn't work for me when creating a team, I didn't feel like I had enough budget left to make a strong team. Also, I don't see him winning it. And if he doesn't, I doubt the difference between his and Uran's points will be large enough to justify the difference in budget. Uran seems really low-priced to me, so that kind of ruled Landa out. I'm convinced Uran+Kudus+Betancur will score more than just Landa, but I guess we'll see.

Judging from the names behind the Nibali-Landa combo, that's the way to go ;)
 

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