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2016 Tour de Suisse, 11-19 June

While everybody are stoked for Dauphine, and rightly so, there is also this big race going on in June! PCS has apparently updated all squads for Tour de Suisse and they should by the looks of it be reliable so we already know what we are in for.

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Pretty straightforward course; a prologue, 3 somewhat hilly days for Sagan, 3 MTF's, a short ITT and a deciding mountain stage, this time finishing in Davos.

Its very hard not to see the race being won by the best climber, but since many of the biggest stars have chosen Dauphine over Suisse, its a wide open race and an opportunity for younger, up-and-coming guys to win big; look out for M.A. Lopez and Warren Barguil.

Despite not being anywhere near the mighty Rettenbachferner in difficulty, the two previous MTF's on stage 5 and 6 are nothing to sneeze at. After ascending and descending Furka Pass (16,7 km, 6,3%) and Gotthard Pass (8,5 km, 5,9%) they finish in Cari (11,2 km, 8,0%).
The next day isn't much easier. The only obstacle before the finish in Amden is the long Klausenpass (26,1 km, 5,6%) which will make legs tired - then, Amden (9 km, 9,3%) to finish people off and make sure it will be a 'survival of the fittest' the day after (not that it won't be anyways).

Then, the Rettenbachferner, Mortirolo in 1000 metres higher altitude as it has been described. Pinot won on the climb last year, but unfortunately doesn't attend this year. With its 12,1 kilometres and 10,1 in average its a beast, but how much can we expect after 2 MTFs and a short ITT?

The ITT resembles that in Romandie in terms of length and difficulty it seems - not much else to see here. Safe to say everyone (almost) would've liked it to be a tad or too longer.
That brings us to the last hard mountain stage of the race, a total of 4. Once again its high altitude, Albupass (14 km, 7%) and Flüelapass (12,9 km, 7,4%) and as the case of the first mountain stage, its short and explosive. Despite not being the hardest of the stages, this one could produce some very good racing.
 
Surprised to see the ITT is so short, hoping Lopez will find his legs again (as he (despite his age) has disappointed me a bit in the European races this year). Thomas for the win.
 
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staubsauger said:
Makes no sense at all that Aru, Pinot & Landa are riding the Dauphine when they would be overwhelming favorites here in Switzerland.

And my main man Rui Costa is riding Suisse with a parcours that is horribly mismatched to his skillset. Still a shoe in for a top 5 since the field really isn't anything special and he usually rides GC here.
 
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MikeTichondrius said:
staubsauger said:
Makes no sense at all that Aru, Pinot & Landa are riding the Dauphine when they would be overwhelming favorites here in Switzerland.

And my main man Rui Costa is riding Suisse with a parcours that is horribly mismatched to his skillset. Still a shoe in for a top 5 since the field really isn't anything special and he usually rides GC here.
He's won more Tours de Suisse than Contador though,
 
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CheckMyPecs said:
MikeTichondrius said:
staubsauger said:
Makes no sense at all that Aru, Pinot & Landa are riding the Dauphine when they would be overwhelming favorites here in Switzerland.

And my main man Rui Costa is riding Suisse with a parcours that is horribly mismatched to his skillset. Still a shoe in for a top 5 since the field really isn't anything special and he usually rides GC here.
He's won more Tours de Suisse than everyone except Fornara, Kübler, Koblet though,

Fixed that for you :p
 
Rui winning Suisse 3x in a row is a lot like Sevilla winning the Europa League - It's a statistical anomaly, but he still manages to stumble into that win anyways. I'd argue that the only really lucky win was #1 with Valverde support. he was dominant at the end of #2 (good memories of La Punt and the Flumserberg MTT). #3 was an easier route and more adapted to him if I recall. Expect to see him pedalling friggin' triangles on the Rettenbachferner though.
 
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It would've been a smart move for Bertie to race the Tour de Suisse. He's never won it and there's a high chance the Froome Daug and co. will beat him up at the Dauphiné.
 
I knew the general opinion would be that the TdS lineup is way weaker than the Dauphine one, while it's not entirely true. Yes I also give advantage to Dauphine, but have a look:

Spilak, Tejay, Thomas, Konig, Gesink, Kelderman, Costa, Barguil, Talansky, Frank, Lopez, Peraud, Ion,...vs

Bardet, Aru, Porte, Martin, Pinot, Yates, Rolland, Purito, Froome, Henao, Landa, Contador, Mollema,...

If you look only at names, I agree, the Dauphine GC riders look way better. But if you look at actual recent results in one week races, it's a different story. Costa, Spilak, Thomas, TVG, Ion > Aru, Landa in one week races and that's a fact. What is missing in Suisse is a big name, a Contador or a Froome. You send Contador to ride Suisse and the perception changes dramatically.

I will root for Spilak to defend his title and I think he has good chances to do so. Most dangerous rivals TVG, Thomas, Costa. I don't know what to expect from Ion (isn't he back from an injury?), Barguil (could be very strong in the mountains), Lopez, Kelderman, Talansky.
 
I read some time ago that the TDS will be the first WT stage race that will show live rider data on tv and that there will be an app where you can follow a certain amount of riders (the rider who are being tagged with sensors). It has something to do with the Velon partnership. Does anyone know if there is more information about it? I'm wondering which rider data will be showed.
 
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johnymax said:
I knew the general opinion would be that the TdS lineup is way weaker than the Dauphine one, while it's not entirely true. Yes I also give advantage to Dauphine, but have a look:

Spilak, Tejay, Thomas, Konig, Gesink, Kelderman, Costa, Barguil, Talansky, Frank, Lopez, Peraud, Ion,...vs

Bardet, Aru, Porte, Martin, Pinot, Yates, Rolland, Purito, Froome, Henao, Landa, Contador, Mollema,...

If you look only at names, I agree, the Dauphine GC riders look way better. But if you look at actual recent results in one week races, it's a different story. Costa, Spilak, Thomas, TVG, Ion > Aru, Landa in one week races and that's a fact. What is missing in Suisse is a big name, a Contador or a Froome. You send Contador to ride Suisse and the perception changes dramatically.

I will root for Spilak to defend his title and I think he has good chances to do so. Most dangerous rivals TVG, Thomas, Costa. I don't know what to expect from Ion (isn't he back from an injury?), Barguil (could be very strong in the mountains), Lopez, Kelderman, Talansky.

I can see Gesink winning this if he's in proper shape. Would like to see that actually.
 
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MikeTichondrius said:
johnymax said:
I knew the general opinion would be that the TdS lineup is way weaker than the Dauphine one, while it's not entirely true. Yes I also give advantage to Dauphine, but have a look:

Spilak, Tejay, Thomas, Konig, Gesink, Kelderman, Costa, Barguil, Talansky, Frank, Lopez, Peraud, Ion,...vs

Bardet, Aru, Porte, Martin, Pinot, Yates, Rolland, Purito, Froome, Henao, Landa, Contador, Mollema,...

If you look only at names, I agree, the Dauphine GC riders look way better. But if you look at actual recent results in one week races, it's a different story. Costa, Spilak, Thomas, TVG, Ion > Aru, Landa in one week races and that's a fact. What is missing in Suisse is a big name, a Contador or a Froome. You send Contador to ride Suisse and the perception changes dramatically.

I will root for Spilak to defend his title and I think he has good chances to do so. Most dangerous rivals TVG, Thomas, Costa. I don't know what to expect from Ion (isn't he back from an injury?), Barguil (could be very strong in the mountains), Lopez, Kelderman, Talansky.

I can see Gesink winning this if he's in proper shape. Would like to see that actually.
I didn't mention him because I remember last year he was very average in Suisse and then he followed that with a very good Tour. So I thought he might ride as a preparation race for the Tour. But even if he's in proper shape I don't think he can win. I would be happy for him if he does win, though.
 
I don't care for people mocking the route. 3 hard MTFs in a row? Who cares, bring it. The last 5 days are spectacular - rather too hard than too soft.

Tejay SHOULD be the favourite here, but 5-7 could win and I wouldn't be surprise. Really a race which is up for grabs which kinda makes it intriguing.
 
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Apparently Talansky is actually targeting the TdS, he could get a decent result, but you never know with Talansky...
 
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staubsauger said:
Makes no sense at all that Aru, Pinot & Landa are riding the Dauphine when they would be overwhelming favorites here in Switzerland.
As far as Pinot is concerned, it's a matter of finishing one week earlier and prepare for the nationals (on his home turf). But yeah, too bad: a Aru-Pinot-Landa fight would have been nice on a course like this one.
 
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Samamba said:
I read some time ago that the TDS will be the first WT stage race that will show live rider data on tv and that there will be an app where you can follow a certain amount of riders (the rider who are being tagged with sensors). It has something to do with the Velon partnership. Does anyone know if there is more information about it? I'm wondering which rider data will be showed.

Does anyone have any more info on this?