2017 Masters (golf)

[Tricycle Rider]

I expect this will be CN's quietest thread ever - not because nobody watches golf (though, that is a distinct possibility), but because, well, it's golf.

Ooops, it also doesn't help when I put the thread in the wrong forum... must rectify that. (Meant to post the thread in the cafe, though, I have no doubt golfers dope, too.)

 

[Tricycle Rider]

Off the top of my head I would think of Adam Scott, Dustin Johnson, and Paul Casey as male models, they all look so chiselled. (If you put a bag over Rory McIlroy's head his body would probably qualify as well.) Jordan Spieth looks pudgy in comparison, he hasn't lost his inner (or even outer) fat yet.

As far as Tiger - I think the guy is finished. Unless he can somehow put his body back together enough and play on the senior tour I think he's done.

I did mean to post this thread (minus the doping talk) in the cafe, so if the mods want to move these posts to the general doping thread and delete this thread it's cool by me.

 

[blackcat]

#NOTnormal ectomorph, that is why his knees when, he added torque to a honda civic innit

 

[Tricycle Rider]

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#NOTnormal ectomorph, that is why his knees when, he added torque to a honda civic innit

Ja, and then we have this question...should golfers really be lifting weights?

 

[blackcat]

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#NOTnormal ectomorph, that is why his knees when, he added torque to a honda civic innit

Ja, and then we have this question...should golfers really be lifting weights?

and nike dropped their golf line lol

guess they will start using titleist clubs #eponymous

 

[Tricycle Rider]

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and nike dropped their golf line lol

guess they will start using titleist clubs #eponymous

You're starting to veer into that Aussie talk, which I'm not quite sure I understand. But if you're saying Nike will drop them as soon as they fly too close to the sun (or even after) I agree.

 

[Tricycle Rider]

For those of you who are not familiar with the Masters golf tournament... it's just basically a bunch of men fighting for this ghastly green jacket.

Sound familiar yet? (Some fight for yellow, some fight for green.)

All are doped up, though, as far as I'm concerned. Can't name any names seeing as I have no proof.

 

[the delgados]

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For those of you who are not familiar with the Masters golf tournament... it's just basically a bunch of men fighting for this ghastly green jacket.

Sound familiar yet? (Some fight for yellow, some fight for green.)

All are doped up, though, as far as I'm concerned. Can't name any names seeing as I have no proof.

Golf legend Gary Player said on record that he knows for a fact that some players are geared up.
Woods would be the most obvious example (see above), given the fact his Canadian doctor was busted when trying to cross the border with a bunch of PEDs.

I'm not a psychiatrist, but it seems that Tiger was/is more obsessed with pleasing his father who has shed his mortal coil. Hence the long runs in army boots and training with real soldiers. The guy became totally obsessed with joining the army; he even went so far as to join infantry units using live rounds during training.

Total aside, but his former training members couldn't help but notice that the billionaire Woods refused to pick up the cheque after a post-training dinner.

As for others, I can't see why someone like Rory would turn down a little pick-me-up. It's not like the golfers have to submit to a post-round pee after signing their score card.

 

[blackcat]

anthony galea ftw.

better living thru chemistry 4 canucks.

genevieve jeannson and her coach hubby andre arbit or whatever he was named

so she was quebecois, i am not sure if galea is toronto

 

[Tricycle Rider]

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i am sorry, golf is for muppets and middle aged men. plus,lots of dykes and other dutch sea retaining walls on the womens tour in chinos and polo shirts and they aint even ralph lauren innit

lol... I think Charley Hoffman is the perfect representation of what one imagines when one thinks of a golfer. (The guy looks like he's never seen, much less lifted, a barbell.) But who knows? So far he's had one good round, but he may be able to win the whole thing. Or Mickelson... don't think that guy needs another green jacket, though.

Golf legend Gary Player said on record that he knows for a fact that some players are geared up.
Woods would be the most obvious example (see above), given the fact his Canadian doctor was busted when trying to cross the border with a bunch of PEDs.

I'm not a psychiatrist, but it seems that Tiger was/is more obsessed with pleasing his father who has shed his mortal coil. Hence the long runs in army boots and training with real soldiers. The guy became totally obsessed with joining the army; he even went so far as to join infantry units using live rounds during training.

Total aside, but his former training members couldn't help but notice that the billionaire Woods refused to pick up the cheque after a post-training dinner.

As for others, I can't see why someone like Rory would turn down a little pick-me-up. It's not like the golfers have to submit to a post-round pee after signing their score card.

I don't see why not either. While the check for winning a tournament is nice I think most income for golfers comes from sponsorships. So if Rory comes out with some kind of a fitness program and gets to be on the cover of Men's Health (or Golf Digest, or whatever), there's his incentive right there.

Interesting stuff about Tiger and his father, btw. Some of it I hadn't heard of before.

 

[the delgados]

http://deadspin.com/leaked-voicemail-phil-mickelson-plans-to-hustle-sucker-1794072763

Speaking of Charley, seems he and his buddy Phil are quite the pair.

 

[Tricycle Rider]

http://deadspin.com/leaked-voicemail-phil-mickelson-plans-to-hustle-sucker-1794072763

Speaking of Charley, seems he and his buddy Phil are quite the pair.

That's really interesting stuff. I had no idea there was so much gambling or betting going on in golf, and that it's considered a part of the game and culture. (I don't actually golf, but I do like to watch the majors.)

Speaking some further of Hoffman...

Think he and Chris Horner had the same hair stylist at one point or another. At least I think it's a young Horner. And even if it isn't...

Guys, it may seem like a good idea at the time, but, just don't do it!

 

[Tricycle Rider]

Found this short video about the costs of playing golf - I always knew golf was expensive even as just a hobby, but to be on the pro tour is insanely pricey. The top players live a life of luxury due to endorsements and winnings, but the average pro is probably only comfortable in comparison. Either way trying to make a buck in golf is quite an incentive to dope, I would think. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlhUVm4vrYg


Also found this vid where a golf technician spends 20 minutes talking about golf irons and grip tape... my eyes started glazing over in just a couple of minutes and I gave up watching after about ten. But I think it's interesting that there is so much science (and money) involved in just golf equipment. (How can the average Joe afford to play, let alone gamble, on golf? I can see throwing down $5 if you're playing with your buddies, but some bet thousands of dollars. It boggles the mind.) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cn6J8Gq52-s

 

[blackcat]

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that is not really 'weights'. That looks in the vicinity of a ~450lb deadlift.

I am gunna now google wot Stef Curry deadlifts.

as they say in our biz, #NOTnormal

ok, so Steph Curry deadlifts ~400lbs.

But, in physics terms, Steph's work, in watts required, with longer levers bent at 90degrees or more, and the length of the movement, Steph Curry's work is significantly more. youtube added at the bottom.

.should golfers really be lifting weights?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3r3Yohis4EI

 

[Tricycle Rider]

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that is not really 'weights'. That looks in the vicinity of a ~450lb deadlift.

I am gunna now google wot Stef Curry deadlifts.

as they say in our biz, #NOTnormal

ok, so Steph Curry deadlifts ~400lbs.

But, in physics terms, Steph's work, in watts required, with longer levers bent at 90degrees or more, and the length of the movement, Steph Curry's work is significantly more. youtube added at the bottom.

I had to google Stephen Curry cause I wasn't sure if he was a golfer I hadn't heard of (there are plenty of those) - oh, you mean the basketball player! (Sometimes I'm a bit slow.)

Basketball players are gargantuan these days (even the women), and b-ball can be pretty physical. So I can almost see why players would have an interest in getting even bigger, and gearing up as a consequence. But golfers?

I guess Rory does actually have some kind of a work-out routine with weights, here's another piccy. (I would imagine this +gear is how Tiger ruined his body at a rather young age.)

 

[Cookster15]

IMO Golf is a pastime not a real sport. Would be nice to get some serious analysis of how pro golfers get performance gains from PEDs? Hitting the ball further sure but if that was the most important aspect all golfers would be built like designated hitters in MLB. Instead some look fit (Woods, Norman), some look healthy (the majority) and a few even look very unfit (John Daly). Looking at all the Masters winners in recent years I don't see anything that screams PEDs?

 

[Irondan]

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IMO Golf is a pastime not a real sport. Would be nice to get some serious analysis of how pro golfers get performance gains from PEDs? Hitting the ball further sure but if that was the most important aspect all golfers would be built like designated hitters in MLB. Instead some look fit (Woods, Norman), some look healthy (the majority) and a few even look very unfit (John Daly). Looking at all the Masters winners in recent years I don't see anything that screams PEDs?

PED's are more than just "brute strength" enhancers. The list of things that can be enhanced by PED's is staggering. Golfers can benefit greatly by them as can pool players, dart pro's and curlers.

Vision, concentration, recovery are all part of golf and can all be enhanced greatly by drugs to make a better player over a natty golfer.

 

[Tricycle Rider]

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IMO Golf is a pastime not a real sport. Would be nice to get some serious analysis of how pro golfers get performance gains from PEDs? Hitting the ball further sure but if that was the most important aspect all golfers would be built like designated hitters in MLB. Instead some look fit (Woods, Norman), some look healthy (the majority) and a few even look very unfit (John Daly). Looking at all the Masters winners in recent years I don't see anything that screams PEDs?

I think of golf more as a game rather than a sport. (Especially when you see young healthy guys who don't even bother to walk the course, they use carts instead.) Your mileage may vary.

As for your other thoughts on the matter - I'm not a golfer, so I'll just let those who know more about actually playing golf take over.

 

[Tricycle Rider]

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IMO Golf is a pastime not a real sport. Would be nice to get some serious analysis of how pro golfers get performance gains from PEDs? Hitting the ball further sure but if that was the most important aspect all golfers would be built like designated hitters in MLB. Instead some look fit (Woods, Norman), some look healthy (the majority) and a few even look very unfit (John Daly). Looking at all the Masters winners in recent years I don't see anything that screams PEDs?

PED's are more than just "brute strength" enhancers. The list of things that can be enhanced by PED's is staggering. Golfers can benefit greatly by them as can pool players, dart pro's and curlers.

Vision, concentration, recovery are all part of golf and can all be enhanced greatly by drugs to make a better player over a natty golfer.

Yep, basically this.

Crikes, if I had known about all these "concentration" drugs back in the 90s I would have done so much better on my Thomas Mann paper back at the uni. (As things were at the time I nearly failed it.)

 

[blackcat]

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IMO Golf is a pastime not a real sport. Would be nice to get some serious analysis of how pro golfers get performance gains from PEDs? Hitting the ball further sure but if that was the most important aspect all golfers would be built like designated hitters in MLB. Instead some look fit (Woods, Norman), some look healthy (the majority) and a few even look very unfit (John Daly). Looking at all the Masters winners in recent years I don't see anything that screams PEDs?

i agree, it is less a sport than even chess.

but, they only need one shot less over four rounds and 280 shots, and being a slugger like Mark McGuire could get that one less shot

 

[Dan2016]

Weird photos going on in this thread. And Golf is for pussies.

I hope that's a valuable contribution.

 

[blackcat]

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Weird photos going on in this thread. And Golf is for pussies.

I hope that's a valuable contribution.

presonally, i luv the sand chinos, white polos, and dutch sea retaining walls

 

[Dan2016]

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Weird photos going on in this thread. And Golf is for pussies.

I hope that's a valuable contribution.

presonally, i luv the sand chinos, white polos, and dutch sea retaining walls

Them dutch retaining walls are quality...beautiful batter and tight joints on 'em.

 

[Tricycle Rider]

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And Golf is for pussies.

Say that to a professional ice hockey player and he'll probably knock your teeth out. I would take it as a compliment, with hockey players losing a few teeth is a rite of passage.

But seriously...

I'm always a bit surprised at the kind of people who play golf... you have rappers, basketball players (Michael Jordan comes to mind), and lots of hockey players. With hockey players it makes sense, though, seeing as hockey and golf require a similar skill set. (Well, violence aside, give a stick and a roundish object to a hockey player and he'll just have to aim it at something.)

 

[the delgados]

Golf fight!
I'm afraid I have to take issue with those who claim golf is not a sport and is just a game meant for felines.
(Total aside, but can we stop with the pussy as a pejorative comments? Thanks in advance)
That said, golf is an incredibly difficult sport to be good at, never mind master.
It takes years of intense practice to become a decent player. It takes even more practice and a robotic-like mental discipline to dial it in and break par on tournament-grade golf courses.
I'm not a fan of most golfers because they're too stuffy and probably vote republican, but man oh man, they are amazing at what they do. Maybe it takes a certain understanding about the inherent difficulty in playing golf, but the Masters/US and British Open is compelling to watch.
As for TR's comments above, I grew up in a small town in Manitoba and played golf all day long in the summer and hockey in the winter. There was nothing else to do, hence the reason why so many hockey players play golf.