Denmark and france were both disgraceful, and should apologize to their fans. Hope they both get trounced and eliminated in the next round.
Hard to believe that one. Never been eliminated in group play before.Merckx index said:Wow! Germany is out!
Python will be drinking tonight, for sure.
Belgium should only settle for a WC win with this generation. Sooner or later you'll meet a top team, so losing against Brazil in quarters or against Spain in semis hardly matters.Merckx index said:England-Belgium should be interesting. Both are in the KO round, but each would be better off finishing second so that they avoid Brazil, and the rest of that half of the bracket. How do you lose a game without making it obvious? Playing the reserves is a start, particularly since you want to rest the starters, anyway, and make sure they don't get any yellow let alone red cards. In fact, if that game ends in a draw, first vs. second could be determined by cards, so you definitely want reserves to be the ones getting them.
I remember that game and the upset people on the stands. I remember my uncle telling me, "That game was fixed at a table last night". I was upset to watch the display of soccer on that game as well.Tonton said:On French TV, at the '82 World Cup, I heard, for the first time that "there are no small teams". It takes a very good team to make it to the big dance. That year, Germany and Austria gave us the most disgraceful display and Algeria (who had beaten Germany) was eliminated...the reason why final games are simultaneous today. And same World Cup, semi-final, Schumacher...'nuf said: I have had a beef with Germany ever since. Insult added to injury in '86. Today was a great day for me. Sorry my German friends . Humble pie.
I disagree with the France-Denmark "hope they get wiped out" post. Denmark wanted to avoid counters, hoping that a set piece could get them the win, and if not a tie is good. France clearly modified the line-up to bring players into the rotation (in case of yellow or red cards, subs can be crucial IF they know how to play with the starters), and having Madanda vs. Lloris, Deschamps got the athletic goalie vs. the tallest team in the competition.
Deschamps won the Champion's league, the '98 WC as the captain and a field general. Although I'm wary of what seem to be experiments with all the changes from game to game, maybe he's much smarter than everyone: adjust, change your line-up depending on the opponent's strengths and weaknesses. In '98, Jacquet had built a team without Cantona, looking at roles, leading foot, Deschamps may be pushing this one level further. The problem is,or could become: scoring. The forwards are under performing.
Brazil? Sexy pick as always, beating Serbia was no small feat. The Yugos are great players, Serbians, Croatians, heck, Bosnians: imagine what a Yougoslavia team would look like. I believe in Croatia: this generation is every bit as good as the '98 one that had France in the ropes in the semi-final.
Messi is LeBron. The Cavaliers/Gauchos won't win the World Cup. One man show won't do it.
Hats off to the Asian teams: they put up a great fight. Who was best? Tae-Kwon-Do or Karate? The debate continues, but they can all kick the ball .
England? I'm on the fence, but talk about scoring, they score. Belgium plays a great brand of football: I wish them the best. This Brazilian team, I'm afraid, is what Netserk would call "really good but way overrated". Can they step up a notch, not be nonchalant, be disciplined and not be exposed on set pieces?
Mexico? Cold shower today, but I root for them to do well. I wonder how that big defeat will impact what was a huge amount of confidence before the face-off with the Vikings. Sweden took no prisoners, all stereotypes are in effect, it's a team that may be taken lightly: too basic, et caetera...stereotype historically applied to Germany. And in the end, the Germans win...well, not this time. But Sweden has great momentum and the goodies.
But none of them will want to win it because of Brazil, waiting in 1/4. This match is reaaaly interesting!Jagartrott said:
But none of them knows how to defend. If this ends 0-0 I will cheer Sky at Le Tour - that's how confident I am there will be goals.Bot. Sky_Bot said:But none of them will want to win it because of Brazil, waiting in 1/4. This match is reaaaly interesting!Jagartrott said:
So I hope it will be 0-0 :razz: . So far Belgium managed to receive 2 yellow cards..Jagartrott said:But none of them knows how to defend. If this ends 0-0 I will cheer Sky at Le Tour - that's how confident I am there will be goals.Bot. Sky_Bot said:But none of them will want to win it because of Brazil, waiting in 1/4. This match is reaaaly interesting!Jagartrott said:
And additionally you'll change your avatar into Christopher Froome red/yellow/pink yersey photo.. just till the end of TdF.. :razz:Jagartrott said:But none of them knows how to defend. If this ends 0-0 I will cheer Sky at Le Tour - that's how confident I am there will be goals.Bot. Sky_Bot said:Jagartrott said: