2018 Winter Olympics doping thread

[Libertine Seguros]

I'd say the German men have been not dissimilar from the women, Peiffer won his gold because of others faltering, he had a good day and hit all the targets and the people who would normally be able to beat him made too many errors, a state of affairs which was rectified in the pursuit when Martin returned to normal. Doll if anything has been below par ski-form-wise, but shot better than we're used to from him - for the last three years or so he's been a top 5 skier, but too inconsistent with the rifle in hand, and here his marksmanship won him that bronze in the pursuit, with everybody else missing targets from that chasing pack, while ordinarily I would have expected him to absolutely take Samuelsson to pieces on the final loop, yet he was laboured and the Swede was able to catch and beat him. He returned to type in the relay, while Schempp was somewhat disappointing in sprint/pursuit but it all came together in the Mass Start.

 

[May0maniac]

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In the biathlon, Kuzmina has been exceptional and suspicious, while Dahlmeier has seemed ok as her advantage has been her shooting and also she's fatigued enormously. Wierer has appeared extremely clean and likewise the French and all the other germans, while the Swedes (men and women) has far surpassed expectations. In the men, the Germans have been very strong but not to a point of ridiculousness, and boe and fourcade have been themselves, if in the case of boe slightly disappointing.

Wierer has been dealing with insomnia (mainly because of the time difference) durning he games, she's taking sleeping pills but still waking up around 5 times per night, that's one of the reasons why she wasn't as good as usual.

 

[Oude Geuze]

Russia had 168 athletes banned and still manages to have 2 out of 4 positive doping tests during the olympics so far, how is that even possible? The doping culture must run deep, they probably don't even consider doping a bad thing, just a natural part of elite athletes' life and training. And why would you even dope for curling, any advantage must be extremely slight. I did love the nasal spray excuse though, children running around in the hotel corridor could have swapped out the medication...

 

[BullsFan22]

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Russia had 168 athletes banned and still manages to have 2 out of 4 positive doping tests during the olympics so far, how is that even possible? The doping culture must run deep, they probably don't even consider doping a bad thing, just a natural part of elite athletes' life and training. And why would you even dope for curling, any advantage must be extremely slight. I did love the nasal spray excuse though, children running around in the hotel corridor could have swapped out the medication...

Or they could have done this:

https://www.nrk.no/sport/olympiatoppen-har-sendt-over-6000-doser-astmamedisin-til-ol-1.13880280

 

[Robert5091]

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2...-dont-do-doping-shirt-fails-olympic-drug-test

Russian athlete filmed in 'I don’t do doping' shirt fails Olympic drug test

Oops!

 

[glassmoon]

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https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2...-dont-do-doping-shirt-fails-olympic-drug-test

Russian athlete filmed in 'I don’t do doping' shirt fails Olympic drug test

Oops!

 

[bambino]

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https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2...-dont-do-doping-shirt-fails-olympic-drug-test

Russian athlete filmed in 'I don’t do doping' shirt fails Olympic drug test

Oops!

Unbelievable stuff :lol: :lol:

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Remember, Femke van den Driessche rode for team Kleur op Maat-NoDrugs - just like that, Sergeeva being photographed like that kind of shows how inconsequential that kind of anti-doping platitude is. Or, suggests that people do not consider certain items to be doping, as has been oft-discussed around grey area substances such as the asthma products used by the Norwegian team (sometimes by people who don't actually have asthma, but self-confessed use the nebulizers "when I experience asthma-like symptoms"), use of TUE systems, use up to the limit of substances which are controlled and not outright banned, and so on, and so she may genuinely feel she does not 'do' doping, yet still takes products that could result in an AAF, much as the much-discussed Froome case at present (as opposed to Femke, who could perhaps legitimately claim that she did not do doping, but was cheating in other ways).

That said, a Russian testing positive for "a heart drug" points very much in the direction of meldonium in most people's minds, I would think, and although that was an absolute fiasco in January-February 2017, by this point there's really no excuse.

 

[TheSpud]

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Remember, Femke van den Driessche rode for team Kleur op Maat-NoDrugs - just like that, Sergeeva being photographed like that kind of shows how inconsequential that kind of anti-doping platitude is. Or, suggests that people do not consider certain items to be doping, as has been oft-discussed around grey area substances such as the asthma products used by the Norwegian team (sometimes by people who don't actually have asthma, but self-confessed use the nebulizers "when I experience asthma-like symptoms"), use of TUE systems, use up to the limit of substances which are controlled and not outright banned, and so on, and so she may genuinely feel she does not 'do' doping, yet still takes products that could result in an AAF, much as the much-discussed Froome case at present (as opposed to Femke, who could perhaps legitimately claim that she did not do doping, but was cheating in other ways).

That said, a Russian testing positive for "a heart drug" points very much in the direction of meldonium in most people's minds, I would think, and although that was an absolute fiasco in January-February 2017, by this point there's really no excuse.

Its Trimetazidine - http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/winter-olympics/43180504

 

[Kokoso]

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as has been oft-discussed around grey area substances such as the asthma products used by the Norwegian team (sometimes by people who don't actually have asthma, but self-confessed use the nebulizers "when I experience asthma-like symptoms")

Oh, Libertine...using nebulizer IS NOT grey area and using certain substances is not grey area, too.

Calling things "asthma products" or similar misleading names or saying misleading informations (for example that using nebulizers is grey area)- that is grey area.

 

[meat puppet]

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as has been oft-discussed around grey area substances such as the asthma products used by the Norwegian team (sometimes by people who don't actually have asthma, but self-confessed use the nebulizers "when I experience asthma-like symptoms")

Oh, Libertine...using nebulizer IS NOT grey area and using certain substances is not grey area, too.

Calling things "asthma products" or similar misleading names or saying misleading informations (for example that using nebulizers is grey area)- that is grey area.

Fair enough. Now that you mention it, recovery aiding mild anabolics with aerobic and anaerobic benefits is much more accurate.

 

[alternator]

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again a russian
(swedish)
https://www.svt.se/sport/pyeongchang-2018/rysk-olympier-misstankt-for-dopning/

i heard that reuters speculated it was their curling player found out on a highly controversial meldonium. if true, some pretty stupid persons are managing that team

Yep, Russian Curler.

Doping in curling. FFS. :lol:

Got bronze.
Lost the bronze!
And that was one quickly solved doping case.

Well, he did not even make any excuse like "needed heart medication to keep just married wife satisfied"!

So fair enough. Getting caught for meldonium is weird, though, as at this point it should be well known to stay in your system for a long time.

 

[glassmoon]

so apparently Jeglic from Slovenia (who scored decisive shot-out goal against Slovakia) had a positive doping test.
how are the rules regarding those team/collective sports (like hockey,etc.)
I mean, he personally scored the decisive goal...
EDIT: found an older article regarding team sports: it says there have to be more then one violation within the team during the tournament to possibly sanction (even DSQ) the whole team.