2021 Tour de France CQ game

Must be time to start this one up.


For those who already know the games: 4000 points, 8 riders, prices as of 20th June, selection tool, submit by 12:30 pm French time on 26 June.


If that does not tell you all you need to know, here is the fuller explanation. This is the latest in a series of games for which the points scheme at cqranking.com provides both the cost of the riders and the reward scale for their performance.

You have to select 8 riders whose total cost is 4000 points (or less), the cost of each rider being his CQ score for the year to 20th June (these were released in a CQ download on 21st); the points he can score are those given for stage top tens, GC position, KoM and Sprints Classifications and Yellow jersey wearer. The prices, start-list (as it gradually moves towards confirmation), and the scoring tables are in a spreadsheet here.

That spreadsheet (or the team lists that will usually appear in this thread a few days before the race starts) will also give the version of names that I would ask you to use when you send in your team: it makes my task of entering the teams into the game's spreadsheet easier if you would follow that name format (Surname[space]Forename; but care with Danish, Portuguese, Spanish and some other names is needed).

I will provide a daily breakdown of scores and standings, based on projected positions as the race progresses, and there will be a secondary classification (the green jersey game), based on stage points only.

Send your team to me by PM on VeloRooms or Cycling News forum before the race starts at 12:30 (French time) on Saturday 26th. If you choose anyone who does not start, or your team is overbudget, I will replace the non-starter (or cheapest single rider who can be removed to bring you under budget) with the next cheapest rider (and first alphabetically if there is more than one of the same price). If you don't leave it until the last moment, I will be able to alert you if there are any problems with your selection.

(Tuesday update) A new player, @Alien Performance , was the first to send in a team, and so gets to be moral guardian of my team.

By all means start thinking about your team, but don't commit to it until the prices are clarified; in the meantime, you could always alert others to the game and help boost the numbers taking part. And now (editing this on Monday 21st) it is time to start making those choices.
 
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All teams have now confirmed their intended starters.

For those who do not want to use the spreadsheet, and inspired by the list that @search has done for years at Velorooms, here is the startlist as we believe it will be. If I spot any unscheduled changes, I will alter it appropriately.

These are the prices and the versions of riders' names that I would ask you to use.

TeamRiderCostTeam cost
ACTCOSNEFROY Benoît
281​
GODON Dorian
308​
NAESEN Oliver
404​
O'CONNOR Ben
424​
PARET-PEINTRE Aurélien
485​
PETERS Nans
174​
SCHÄR Michael
81​
VAN AVERMAET Greg
846​
3003​
AFCDILLIER Silvan
137​
MERLIER Tim
925​
MEURISSE Xandro
82​
PHILIPSEN Jasper
868​
RICKAERT Jonas
118​
SBARAGLI Kristian
151​
VAKOC Petr
187​
VAN DER POEL Mathieu
1404​
3872​
APTARANBURU DEBA Alexander
620​
DE BOD Stefan
123​
FRAILE MATARRANZ Omar
266​
FUGLSANG Jakob
1076​
GRUZDEV Dmitriy
55​
HOULE Hugo
128​
IZAGIRRE INSAUSTI Ion
735​
LUTSENKO Alexey
479​
3482​
ARKBARGUIL Warren
480​
BOUHANNI Nacer
458​
DELAPLACE Anthony
178​
GESBERT Elie
288​
MCLAY Daniel
339​
QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander
615​
RUSSO Clément
144​
SWIFT Connor
306​
2808​
BBKBARTHE Cyril
107​
BONNAMOUR Franck
86​
CHEVALIER Maxime
69​
COQUARD Bryan
391​
GAUTIER Cyril
59​
LEMOINE Cyril
81​
PACHER Quentin
139​
ROLLAND Pierre
249​
1181​
BEXCHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban
783​
DURBRIDGE Luke
183​
HAMILTON Lucas
361​
JANSEN Amund Grøndahl
66​
JUUL JENSEN Christopher
81​
MATTHEWS Michael
798​
MEZGEC Luka
427​
YATES Simon
991​
3690​
BOHBUCHMANN Emanuel
169​
KELDERMAN Wilco
473​
KONRAD Patrick
465​
OSS Daniel
82​
POLITT Nils
322​
PÖSTLBERGER Lukas
125​
SAGAN Peter
866​
SCHELLING Ide
365​
2867​
COFFERNANDEZ ANDUJAR Ruben
129​
GESCHKE Simon
218​
HERRADA LOPEZ Jesus
594​
LAPORTE Christophe
568​
MARTIN Guillaume
900​
PEREZ Anthony
147​
PERICHON Pierre-Luc
103​
WALLAYS Jelle
65​
2724​
DQTALAPHILIPPE Julian
1462​
ASGREEN Kasper
858​
BALLERINI Davide
522​
CATTANEO Mattia
436​
CAVENDISH Mark
358​
DECLERCQ Tim
52​
DEVENYNS Dries
102​
MØRKØV CHRISTENSEN Michael
189​
3979​
DSMANDERSEN Søren Kragh
536​
BENOOT Tiesj
422​
BOL Cees
232​
DONOVAN Mark
78​
EEKHOFF Nils
174​
NIEUWENHUIS Joris
122​
PEDERSEN Casper Phillip
227​
SÜTTERLIN Jasha
153​
1944​
EFNBISSEGGER Stefan
390​
CORT NIELSEN Magnus
263​
GUERREIRO Ruben Antonio Almeida
130​
HIGUITA GARCIA Sergio Andres
159​
POWLESS Neilson
221​
RUTSCH Jonas
62​
URAN URAN Rigoberto
477​
VALGREN HUNDAHL (ANDERSEN) Michael
263​
1965​
GFCARMIRAIL Bruno
158​
DEMARE Arnaud
1174​
GAUDU David
1004​
GUARNIERI Jacopo
28​
KONOVALOVAS Ignatas
45​
KÜNG Stefan
792​
MADOUAS Valentin
316​
SCOTSON Miles
100​
3617​
IGDCARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio
1596​
CASTROVIEJO NICOLAS Jonathan
88​
GEOGHEGAN HART Tao
143​
KWIATKOWSKI Michal
619​
PORTE Richie
1202​
ROWE Luke
55​
THOMAS Geraint
848​
VAN BAARLE Dylan
495​
5046​
ISNBOIVIN Guillaume
35​
FROOME Chris
35​
GREIPEL André
195​
HOLLENSTEIN Reto
55​
MARTIN Daniel
809​
NEILANDS Krists
131​
WOODS Michael
1048​
ZABEL Rick
43​
2351​
IWGBAKELANTS Jan
176​
KOCH Jonas
151​
MEINTJES Louis
121​
ROTA Lorenzo
179​
VAN POPPEL Boy
153​
VAN POPPEL Danny
532​
VLIEGEN Loïc
195​
ZIMMERMANN Georg
187​
1694​
LTSDE BUYST Jasper
212​
DE GENDT Thomas
111​
EWAN Caleb
829​
GILBERT Philippe
213​
KLUGE Roger
51​
SWEENY Harrison
42​
VAN DER SANDE Tosh
182​
VAN MOER Brent
159​
1799​
MOVARCAS PEÑA Jorge
52​
ERVITI OLLO Imanol
86​
GARCIA CORTINA Ivan
206​
LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel
824​
MAS NICOLAU Enric
906​
SOLER GIMENEZ Marc
564​
VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro
1326​
VERONA QUINTANILLA Carlos
207​
4171​
TBVBILBAO LOPEZ DE ARMENTIA Pello
679​
COLBRELLI Sonny
844​
HAIG Jack
354​
HALLER Marco
150​
MOHORIC Matej
467​
POELS Wout
423​
TEUNS Dylan
151​
WRIGHT Fred
75​
3143​
TDEBOASSON HAGEN Edvald
110​
CABOT Jérémy
117​
DE LA PARTE GONZALEZ Victor
146​
DOUBEY Fabien
46​
LATOUR Pierre
279​
RODRIGUEZ MARTIN Cristian
310​
SIMON Julien
155​
TURGIS Anthony
421​
1584​
TFSBERNARD Julien
84​
ELISSONDE Kenny
126​
MOLLEMA Bauke
819​
NIBALI Vincenzo
482​
PEDERSEN Mads
699​
SKUJINS Toms
312​
STUYVEN Jasper
718​
THEUNS Edward
274​
3514​
TJVGESINK Robert
98​
KRUIJSWIJK Steven
137​
KUSS Sepp
407​
MARTIN Tony
80​
ROGLIC Primoz
3387​
TEUNISSEN Mike
133​
VAN AERT Wout
2256​
VINGEGAARD RASMUSSEN Jonas
562​
7060​
TQABARBERO CUESTA Carlos
102​
BENNETT Sean
42​
CAMPENAERTS Victor
243​
CLARKE Simon
180​
DLAMINI Nicholas
30​
GOGL Michael
162​
HENAO MONTOYA Sergio Luis
188​
WALSCHEID Maximilian
254​
1201​
UADBJERG Mikkel
137​
COSTA Rui Alberto Faria
466​
FORMOLO Davide
190​
HIRSCHI Marc
600​
LAENGEN Vegard Stake
103​
MAJKA Rafal
253​
MCNULTY Brandon
185​
POGACAR Tadej
2701​
4635​
 
A day plus two and a half-ish hours to go, a slightly disappointing 16 teams so far.
44 different riders have been named, 20 of them being unique picks while 3 are on at least half of the teams.

Most managers have only about 20 points of spare change after their selection, one managed to spend exactly the 4000 point limit, while two teams have >50 points that they have left unspent.

Four riders costing more than 1000 points have been selected, but (more unusually), only two who cost less than 100.

Popularity rankings so far range from 32% to 90% of the current maximum possible.

Don't forget to get your team in.
 
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And we are off.

First of all, an apology: I seem to have missed a squad replacement for ISN, and I have had Neilands listed rather than Omar Goldstein in the selection tool and in the lists on the forums. If anyone feels that they were severely mislead by that, and wants to submit their Goldstein-focussed team (or alteration to your team) before the end of today;'s stage, I will admit it. Otherwise, 39 teams in and the game is underway.

As usual, teams alphabetically, riders by price, unique picks with an asterisk

Alien Performance
THOMAS Geraint
LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel
BILBAO LOPEZ DE ARMENTIA Pello
URAN URAN Rigoberto
KELDERMAN Wilco
HAIG Jack
MCNULTY Brandon
GEOGHEGAN HART Tao

Amis Velo
POGACAR Tadej
URAN URAN Rigoberto
MCNULTY Brandon
BUCHMANN Emanuel
HIGUITA GARCIA Sergio Andres
GEOGHEGAN HART Tao
KRUIJSWIJK Steven
GUARNIERI Jacopo

Archie Boy
CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio
THOMAS Geraint
URAN URAN Rigoberto
HAIG Jack
BOL Cees
GARCIA CORTINA Ivan
GEOGHEGAN HART Tao
PACHER Quentin *

Armchair Cyclist
THOMAS Geraint
EWAN Caleb
LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel
URAN URAN Rigoberto
HAMILTON Lucas
HAIG Jack
BUCHMANN Emanuel
KRUIJSWIJK Steven

Berflamand
THOMAS Geraint
LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel
LUTSENKO Alexey
URAN URAN Rigoberto
KELDERMAN Wilco
HAMILTON Lucas
HAIG Jack
GEOGHEGAN HART Tao

Bicycle Boy
ALAPHILIPPE Julian
THOMAS Geraint
EWAN Caleb
URAN URAN Rigoberto
BUCHMANN Emanuel
GEOGHEGAN HART Tao
FROOME Chris
GUARNIERI Jacopo

BikeRacer33
PORTE Richie *
THOMAS Geraint
LUTSENKO Alexey
KELDERMAN Wilco
O'CONNOR Ben
CORT NIELSEN Magnus *
HIGUITA GARCIA Sergio Andres
GEOGHEGAN HART Tao

Blue Roads
VAN DER POEL Mathieu *
EWAN Caleb
LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel
URAN URAN Rigoberto
GOGL Michael
MEINTJES Louis
BERNARD Julien *
SCHÄR Michael *

Blues in the Bottle
POGACAR Tadej
SAGAN Peter
HIGUITA GARCIA Sergio Andres
GEOGHEGAN HART Tao
BOIVIN Guillaume *
FROOME Chris
DLAMINI Nicholas *
GUARNIERI Jacopo

Bminchow
THOMAS Geraint
EWAN Caleb
LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel
KELDERMAN Wilco
HAMILTON Lucas
HAIG Jack
HIGUITA GARCIA Sergio Andres
KRUIJSWIJK Steven

Bonimenier
THOMAS Geraint
LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel
URAN URAN Rigoberto
KELDERMAN Wilco
O'CONNOR Ben
CAVENDISH Mark
HAIG Jack
MCNULTY Brandon

Comodoro
GAUDU David
THOMAS Geraint
URAN URAN Rigoberto
KELDERMAN Wilco
O'CONNOR Ben
COQUARD Bryan
HIGUITA GARCIA Sergio Andres
GEOGHEGAN HART Tao

Del1962
THOMAS Geraint
LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel
QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander *
URAN URAN Rigoberto
KELDERMAN Wilco
CAVENDISH Mark
BUCHMANN Emanuel
GEOGHEGAN HART Tao

DJSprtsch
ALAPHILIPPE Julian
SAGAN Peter
URAN URAN Rigoberto
KONRAD Patrick *
POELS Wout *
MCNULTY Brandon
WRIGHT Fred *
ZABEL Rick *

Earns1985
SAGAN Peter
EWAN Caleb
LAPORTE Christophe *
URAN URAN Rigoberto
CAVENDISH Mark
HAIG Jack
COSNEFROY Benoît *
BUCHMANN Emanuel

Fivezzz
THOMAS Geraint
LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel
URAN URAN Rigoberto
KELDERMAN Wilco
O'CONNOR Ben
HAMILTON Lucas
HAIG Jack
HIGUITA GARCIA Sergio Andres

Googolplex
THOMAS Geraint
LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel
BILBAO LOPEZ DE ARMENTIA Pello
KELDERMAN Wilco
COQUARD Bryan
CAVENDISH Mark
BOL Cees
GREIPEL André

Jon Ezeitza
SAGAN Peter
THOMAS Geraint
EWAN Caleb
URAN URAN Rigoberto
HAIG Jack
WALSCHEID Maximilian *
BOL Cees
BJERG Mikkel *

Kazistuta
THOMAS Geraint
EWAN Caleb
LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel
URAN URAN Rigoberto
CAVENDISH Mark
FRAILE MATARRANZ Omar *
BOL Cees
HIGUITA GARCIA Sergio Andres

Koronin
SAGAN Peter
ARANBURU DEBA Alexander
HERRADA LOPEZ Jesus *
SOLER GIMENEZ Marc *
LUTSENKO Alexey
COQUARD Bryan
POWLESS Neilson *
GARCIA CORTINA Ivan

Laarsland
THOMAS Geraint
LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel
URAN URAN Rigoberto
KELDERMAN Wilco
O'CONNOR Ben
HAMILTON Lucas
HAIG Jack
BOL Cees

Leadbelly
THOMAS Geraint
BILBAO LOPEZ DE ARMENTIA Pello
LUTSENKO Alexey
URAN URAN Rigoberto
KELDERMAN Wilco
O'CONNOR Ben
CAVENDISH Mark
BUCHMANN Emanuel

Lecko
THOMAS Geraint
LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel
URAN URAN Rigoberto
KELDERMAN Wilco
MOHORIC Matej *
CAVENDISH Mark
BOL Cees
GREIPEL André

Mellow Velo
CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio
LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel
URAN URAN Rigoberto
HAMILTON Lucas
HAIG Jack
BUCHMANN Emanuel
KRUIJSWIJK Steven
MEURISSE Xandro

Northerner
THOMAS Geraint
EWAN Caleb
LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel
URAN URAN Rigoberto
CAVENDISH Mark
HAIG Jack
HIGUITA GARCIA Sergio Andres
GEOGHEGAN HART Tao

Otoxiep87
THOMAS Geraint
LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel
URAN URAN Rigoberto
KELDERMAN Wilco
O'CONNOR Ben
CAVENDISH Mark
HAIG Jack
BOL Cees

Pantani Lives
PHILIPSEN Jasper *
EWAN Caleb
LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel
KELDERMAN Wilco
HAIG Jack
PEDERSEN Casper Phillip *
GOGL Michael
GEOGHEGAN HART Tao

Ray 10
CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio
WOODS Michael *
COQUARD Bryan
BOL Cees
GARCIA CORTINA Ivan
FORMOLO Davide *
BUCHMANN Emanuel
HIGUITA GARCIA Sergio Andres

Redhead Dane
SAGAN Peter
CATTANEO Mattia *
O'CONNOR Ben
VALGREN HUNDAHL (ANDERSEN) Michael *
VLIEGEN Loïc *
DILLIER Silvan *
NIEUWENHUIS Joris *
KLUGE Roger *

Rote Laterne
CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio
EWAN Caleb
URAN URAN Rigoberto
KELDERMAN Wilco
BUCHMANN Emanuel
HIGUITA GARCIA Sergio Andres
GEOGHEGAN HART Tao
KRUIJSWIJK Steven

Rufs
THOMAS Geraint
COLBRELLI Sonny
EWAN Caleb
URAN URAN Rigoberto
HAMILTON Lucas
HAIG Jack
HIGUITA GARCIA Sergio Andres
DE GENDT Thomas *

Salvarani
ALAPHILIPPE Julian
GAUDU David
URAN URAN Rigoberto
CAVENDISH Mark
BOL Cees
BUCHMANN Emanuel
HIGUITA GARCIA Sergio Andres
TEUNISSEN Mike *

Search
THOMAS Geraint
COLBRELLI Sonny
EWAN Caleb
URAN URAN Rigoberto
KELDERMAN Wilco
GARCIA CORTINA Ivan
GREIPEL André
MEINTJES Louis

Shalgo
POGACAR Tadej
URAN URAN Rigoberto
HAMILTON Lucas
GEOGHEGAN HART Tao
ELISSONDE Kenny *
MEURISSE Xandro
CHEVALIER Maxime *
FROOME Chris

Titan31
THOMAS Geraint
EWAN Caleb
URAN URAN Rigoberto
KELDERMAN Wilco
O'CONNOR Ben
BISSEGGER Stefan *
HAMILTON Lucas
MCNULTY Brandon

Triley36
THOMAS Geraint
LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel
LUTSENKO Alexey
URAN URAN Rigoberto
O'CONNOR Ben
KUSS Sepp *
HAIG Jack
HIGUITA GARCIA Sergio Andres

Vladimir
GAUDU David
THOMAS Geraint
LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel
URAN URAN Rigoberto
HAMILTON Lucas
MAJKA Rafal
HIGUITA GARCIA Sergio Andres
GAUTIER Cyril *

Yellow Knight
YATES Simon *
THOMAS Geraint
ARANBURU DEBA Alexander
URAN URAN Rigoberto
KELDERMAN Wilco
MAJKA Rafal
MCNULTY Brandon
GEOGHEGAN HART Tao

Zaka Fan
SAGAN Peter
EWAN Caleb
LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel
LUTSENKO Alexey
HAIG Jack
SKUJINS Toms *
BUCHMANN Emanuel
HIGUITA GARCIA Sergio Andres


One team sent me their alternative team, and I have offered the chance to a couple of other teams, to track unselected lineups on the spreadsheet. It is only a quick copy and paste if you would like me to do that for the team you didn't pick.
 
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74 of the 184 riders have been selected, and while no-one thought that it was worth putting 85% of their budget on Roglic's shoulders, three have decided to go big on Pogacar, costing 2/3 of the funds available. It is probably fair to say that one day of the Tour de Suisse made a big difference to may selections.

Rider popularity
30 teams (out of 39): URAN URAN Rigoberto
25: THOMAS Geraint
19: LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel
18: KELDERMAN Wilco
17: HAIG Jack
15: HIGUITA GARCIA Sergio Andres
14: EWAN Caleb, GEOGHEGAN HART Tao
I will treat that group of 8 as the Collective Wisdom team. It is over budget (4107), but if I were to drop Ewan for the next most popular it would be way below, and would be even more similar to some of the teams. It gives us something to compare ourselves with anyway.

11: BUCHMANN Emanuel
10: CAVENDISH Mark, HAMILTON Lucas, O'CONNOR Ben
9: BOL Cees
7: SAGAN Peter
6: LUTSENKO Alexey, MCNULTY Brandon
5: KRUIJSWIJK Steven
4: CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio, COQUARD Bryan, GARCIA CORTINA Ivan
3: ALAPHILIPPE Julian, BILBAO LOPEZ DE ARMENTIA Pello, FROOME Chris, GAUDU David, GREIPEL André, GUARNIERI Jacopo, POGACAR Tadej
2: ARANBURU DEBA Alexander, COLBRELLI Sonny, GOGL Michael, MAJKA Rafal, MEINTJES Louis, MEURISSE Xandro


There are a lot of fairly similar teams: 13 have Thomas, Uran and Lopez. The minor picks could be key... (and I started writing that before Lopez became less of a GC candidate today)


Picks of over 750 points
Pogacar with Sagan: Blues in the Bottle
Amis Velo, Shalgo

Carapaz with Woods: Ray10
with Thomas: Archie Boy
with Ewan: Rote Laterne
with Lopez: Mellow Velo

Alaphilippe with Thomas and Ewan: Bicycle Boy
with Gaudu: Salvarani
with Sagan: DJSprtsch

Van der Poel with Ewan and Lopez: Blue Roads

Porte with Thomas: BikeRacer33

Gaudu with Thomas and Lopez: Vladimir
with Thomas: Comodoro

Yates with Thomas: Yellow Knight

Philipsen with Ewan and Lopez: Pantani Lives

Sagan with Thomas and Ewan: Jon Ezeitza
with Ewan and Lopez: Zaka Fan
with Ewan: Earns1985
Koronin, Redhead Dane

Thomas with Colbrelli and Ewan: Rufs, Search
with Ewan and Lopez: Armchair Cyclist, Bminchow, Kazistuta, Northerner
with Ewan: Titan31
with Lopez: Alien Performance, Berflamand, Bonimenier, Del1962, Fivezzz, Googolplex, Laarsland, Lecko, Otoxiep87, Triley36
Leadbelly
 
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Teams by popularity

1​
Fivezzz
144​
1​
Northerner
144​
3​
Berflamand
139​
4​
Laarsland
138​
4​
Otoxiep87
138​
6​
Bonimenier
135​
7​
AlienPerformance
132​
8​
Armchair_Cyclist
131​
9​
Del1962
128​
10​
Bminchow
123​
10​
Kazistuta
123​
10​
Triley36
123​
13​
Comodoro
119​
14​
Lecko
115​
15​
Rufs
114​
15​
Titan31
114​
17​
Leadbelly
113​
18​
Rote_Laterne
111​
19​
Vladimir
105​
20​
ArchieBoy
104​
20​
JonEzeitza
104​
22​
BicycleBoy
103​
23​
Mellow_Velo
98​
23​
Search
98​
23​
Yellow_Knight
98​
26​
Earns1985
91​
26​
Googolplex
91​
28​
BikeRacer33
90​
28​
ZakaFan
90​
30​
AmisVelo
87​
31​
Pantani_lives
86​
32​
Salvarani
82​
33​
BlueRoads
70​
34​
Shalgo
64​
35​
DJSprtsch
50​
36​
Ray10
49​
37​
BluesInTheBottle
47​
38​
Koronin
26​
39​
RedheadDane
23​
Collective_Wisdom
152​

There are no identical teams requiring a tiebreaker selection, but teams with 7 riders in common are:
Bonimenier & Otoxiep87
Fivezzz & Laarsland
Laarsland & Otoxiep87
and Northerner with the Collective Wisdom team.
 
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For whoever still cares about the Tour, enjoy it, but as far as I'm concerned after today's stage any small interest I had it in it fully gone and I can find much better uses of time.
Then please do. The first week of the Tour is almost always a crash fest, but I guess it feels particularly bad due to a.o. Movistar being majorly hit this time. I'm sure we're in for a lot of great racing anyway.
 
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Then please do. The first week of the Tour is almost always a crash fest, but I guess it feels particularly bad due to a.o. Movistar being majorly hit this time. I'm sure we're in for a lot of great racing anyway.
It's not that. It's first a stupid moron that proved the UCI doesn't care about the riders safety. Then we have injuries to likely half the peloton. Then we have the worst rider winning the stage. On top of that, this is a race I really don't like to begin with. I find it to be the worst race of the season and of course NBC has the worst two commentators for cycling on the planet in the broadcast booth for this race. So the Tour is usually a waste of time anyway, but this year it's just even MORE of a waste of time.

I had almost no interest in the Tour BEFORE stage 1 and I haven't watched a flat stage of the Tour in years. As in like the last time I watched a flat stage it was probably 2014 or something.
 
Stage 1 Falling like skittles, and Ala on a mur

Green points
For our new entrants (great to have you), these points cannot be lost, and are earned by the top ten in each stage. Unlike the Tour's Green Jersey, the same points scale applies to every stage, so climbers can be just as valuable here as sprinters.

RiderPointsTeams
ALAPHILIPPE Julian
80​
3​
MATTHEWS Michael
50​
0​
ROGLIC Primoz
35​
0​
HAIG Jack
25​
17​
KELDERMAN Wilco
15​
18​
POGACAR Tadej
10​
3​
GAUDU David
5​
3​
HIGUITA GARCIA Sergio Andres
3​
15​
MOLLEMA Bauke
2​
0​
THOMAS Geraint
1​
25​

I'll normally only give the top ten (or so) in this classification, but for today, let's all get a mention, as nearly everyone has scored. The three Alaphilippe teams are clear to see: Salvaranni also has Gaudu and Higuita.

1​
Salvarani
88​
2​
BicycleBoy
81​
3​
DJSprtsch
80​
4​
Bminchow
44​
4​
Fivezzz
44​
6​
AlienPerformance
41​
6​
Berflamand
41​
6​
Bonimenier
41​
6​
Laarsland
41​
6​
Otoxiep87
41​
11​
Pantani_lives
40​
12​
Northerner
29​
12​
Rufs
29​
12​
Triley36
29​
15​
ZakaFan
28​
16​
ArchieBoy
26​
16​
Armchair_Cyclist
26​
16​
JonEzeitza
26​
19​
Earns1985
25​
19​
Mellow_Velo
25​
21​
Comodoro
24​
22​
BikeRacer33
19​
23​
Rote_Laterne
18​
24​
Del1962
16​
24​
Googolplex
16​
24​
Leadbelly
16​
24​
Lecko
16​
24​
Search
16​
24​
Titan31
16​
24​
Yellow_Knight
16​
31​
AmisVelo
13​
31​
BluesInTheBottle
13​
33​
Shalgo
10​
34​
Vladimir
9​
35​
Kazistuta
4​
36​
Ray10
3​
37​
BlueRoads
0​
37​
Koronin
0​
37​
RedheadDane
0​
Collective_Wisdom
44​

Yellow Points
This is the main game: the points for each rider, and therefore the teams, are the sum of stage points, GC and sprint/KoM classifications projected as though current positions are held on the last stage, and the 20 points given each day to the overnight leader (Yellow jersey bonus). Thus Alaphilippe now has 80 stage points +600 as putative GC winner as it stands + 80 as leader of the points classification + 50 as 2nd in polka dot category + 20 as overnight leader =830 points. Because he can lose places in GC and the two jersey classifications, he can lose points, but the stage and yellow jersey points are secure, even if he were to fail to reach Paris.
1​
Salvarani
1452​
2​
Fivezzz
1242​
3​
BicycleBoy
1204​
4​
Bminchow
1174​
5​
Berflamand
1138​
6​
AlienPerformance
1125​
7​
Comodoro
1075​
8​
Laarsland
1059​
9​
DJSprtsch
1047​
10​
Bonimenier
1026​
10​
Otoxiep87
1026​
12​
Triley36
1009​
13​
Rufs
964​
14​
Northerner
918​
15​
Leadbelly
885​
16​
BikeRacer33
875​
17​
ZakaFan
834​
18​
Pantani_lives
822​
19​
Vladimir
817​
20​
Armchair_Cyclist
784​
21​
Rote_Laterne
778​
22​
ArchieBoy
775​
23​
Del1962
752​
24​
JonEzeitza
728​
25​
Titan31
719​
26​
Search
713​
27​
Googolplex
711​
28​
Yellow_Knight
708​
29​
AmisVelo
685​
30​
Lecko
681​
31​
Mellow_Velo
678​
32​
BluesInTheBottle
625​
33​
Earns1985
597​
34​
Kazistuta
578​
35​
Shalgo
519​
36​
Ray10
412​
37​
BlueRoads
318​
38​
Koronin
311​
39​
RedheadDane
190​
Collective_Wisdom
1208​

Last, but by no means least, is the inter-forum battle, with teams representing Cycling News Forum and VeloRooms, with the mean average score being taken for each group. There have always been more teams in the CN camp, but this time the imbalance of numbers is more marked, which I guess makes the performance of each VR team more important.

CN (AlienPerformance, Berflamand, BicycleBoy, BlueRoads, BluesInTheBottle, Bminchow, Bonimenier, Comodoro, Del1962, DJSprtsch, Earns1985, Fivezzz, Googolplex, JonEzeitza, Kazistuta, Koronin, Laarsland, Lecko, Northerner, Pantani_lives, Ray10, RedheadDane, Rufs, Salvarani, Shalgo, Titan31, Triley36, Vladimir, Yellow_Knight) 825
VR (AmisVelo, ArchieBoy, BikeRacer33, Leadbelly, Mellow_Velo, Otoxiep87, Rote_Laterne, Search, ZakaFan) 805
My score is not included in this: my neutrality is impeccable.


To investigate further, the spreadsheet is updated (so long as I remember to press save) each night as I do the update, and is available at the same location (here) throughout, although I won't post the link every evening.

And for the sake of my work, I hope I will normally have updates done rather earlier than this.
 
Reactions: shalgo
Dec 27, 2016
258
12
3,060
Stage 1 Falling like skittles, and Ala on a mur

Green points
For our new entrants (great to have you), these points cannot be lost, and are earned by the top ten in each stage. Unlike the Tour's Green Jersey, the same points scale applies to every stage, so climbers can be just as valuable here as sprinters.

RiderPointsTeams
ALAPHILIPPE Julian
80​
3​
MATTHEWS Michael
50​
0​
ROGLIC Primoz
35​
0​
HAIG Jack
25​
17​
KELDERMAN Wilco
15​
18​
POGACAR Tadej
10​
3​
GAUDU David
5​
3​
HIGUITA GARCIA Sergio Andres
3​
15​
MOLLEMA Bauke
2​
0​
THOMAS Geraint
1​
25​

I'll normally only give the top ten (or so) in this classification, but for today, let's all get a mention, as nearly everyone has scored. The three Alaphilippe teams are clear to see: Salvaranni also has Gaudu and Higuita.

1​
Salvarani
88​
2​
BicycleBoy
81​
3​
DJSprtsch
80​
4​
Bminchow
44​
4​
Fivezzz
44​
6​
AlienPerformance
41​
6​
Berflamand
41​
6​
Bonimenier
41​
6​
Laarsland
41​
6​
Otoxiep87
41​
11​
Pantani_lives
40​
12​
Northerner
29​
12​
Rufs
29​
12​
Triley36
29​
15​
ZakaFan
28​
16​
ArchieBoy
26​
16​
Armchair_Cyclist
26​
16​
JonEzeitza
26​
19​
Earns1985
25​
19​
Mellow_Velo
25​
21​
Comodoro
24​
22​
BikeRacer33
19​
23​
Rote_Laterne
18​
24​
Del1962
16​
24​
Googolplex
16​
24​
Leadbelly
16​
24​
Lecko
16​
24​
Search
16​
24​
Titan31
16​
24​
Yellow_Knight
16​
31​
AmisVelo
13​
31​
BluesInTheBottle
13​
33​
Shalgo
10​
34​
Vladimir
9​
35​
Kazistuta
4​
36​
Ray10
3​
37​
BlueRoads
0​
37​
Koronin
0​
37​
RedheadDane
0​
Collective_Wisdom
44​

Yellow Points
This is the main game: the points for each rider, and therefore the teams, are the sum of stage points, GC and sprint/KoM classifications projected as though current positions are held on the last stage, and the 20 points given each day to the overnight leader (Yellow jersey bonus). Thus Alaphilippe now has 80 stage points +600 as putative GC winner as it stands + 80 as leader of the points classification + 50 as 2nd in polka dot category + 20 as overnight leader =830 points. Because he can lose places in GC and the two jersey classifications, he can lose points, but the stage and yellow jersey points are secure, even if he were to fail to reach Paris.
1​
Salvarani
1452​
2​
Fivezzz
1242​
3​
BicycleBoy
1204​
4​
Bminchow
1174​
5​
Berflamand
1138​
6​
AlienPerformance
1125​
7​
Comodoro
1075​
8​
Laarsland
1059​
9​
DJSprtsch
1047​
10​
Bonimenier
1026​
10​
Otoxiep87
1026​
12​
Triley36
1009​
13​
Rufs
964​
14​
Northerner
918​
15​
Leadbelly
885​
16​
BikeRacer33
875​
17​
ZakaFan
834​
18​
Pantani_lives
822​
19​
Vladimir
817​
20​
Armchair_Cyclist
784​
21​
Rote_Laterne
778​
22​
ArchieBoy
775​
23​
Del1962
752​
24​
JonEzeitza
728​
25​
Titan31
719​
26​
Search
713​
27​
Googolplex
711​
28​
Yellow_Knight
708​
29​
AmisVelo
685​
30​
Lecko
681​
31​
Mellow_Velo
678​
32​
BluesInTheBottle
625​
33​
Earns1985
597​
34​
Kazistuta
578​
35​
Shalgo
519​
36​
Ray10
412​
37​
BlueRoads
318​
38​
Koronin
311​
39​
RedheadDane
190​
Collective_Wisdom
1208​

Last, but by no means least, is the inter-forum battle, with teams representing Cycling News Forum and VeloRooms, with the mean average score being taken for each group. There have always been more teams in the CN camp, but this time the imbalance of numbers is more marked, which I guess makes the performance of each VR team more important.

CN (AlienPerformance, Berflamand, BicycleBoy, BlueRoads, BluesInTheBottle, Bminchow, Bonimenier, Comodoro, Del1962, DJSprtsch, Earns1985, Fivezzz, Googolplex, JonEzeitza, Kazistuta, Koronin, Laarsland, Lecko, Northerner, Pantani_lives, Ray10, RedheadDane, Rufs, Salvarani, Shalgo, Titan31, Triley36, Vladimir, Yellow_Knight) 825
VR (AmisVelo, ArchieBoy, BikeRacer33, Leadbelly, Mellow_Velo, Otoxiep87, Rote_Laterne, Search, ZakaFan) 805
My score is not included in this: my neutrality is impeccable.


To investigate further, the spreadsheet is updated (so long as I remember to press save) each night as I do the update, and is available at the same location (here) throughout, although I won't post the link every evening.

And for the sake of my work, I hope I will normally have updates done rather earlier than this.
Thanks for the daily update! Really fun to check every morning while watching the early part of the next stage.
 
Stage 2 Mathieu on a mur, in Mûr

VAN DER POEL Mathieu
80​
1 (Blue Roads)​
POGACAR Tadej
50​
3(Amis Velo, Blues in the Bottle, Shalgo)​
ROGLIC Primoz
35​
0​
KELDERMAN Wilco
25​
18​
ALAPHILIPPE Julian
15​
3​
MOLLEMA Bauke
10​
0​
VINGEGAARD RASMUSSEN Jonas
5​
0​
HIGUITA GARCIA Sergio Andres
3​
15​
LATOUR Pierre
2​
0​
HAIG Jack
1​
17​

Green points
Today
1​
BlueRoads
80​
2=​
AmisVelo
53​
2=​
BluesInTheBottle
53​
4​
Shalgo
50​
5=​
Bminchow
29​
5=​
Fivezzz
29​
7=​
BikeRacer33
28​
7=​
Comodoro
28​
7=​
Rote_Laterne
28​
10=​
Six teams with Kelderman and Haig
26​
16=​
Seven teams with Kelderman alone
25​

Standings
The top eleven is yesterday's top ten, plus today's top scorer. Some days several teams get multiple good scorers, some days they don't.
1​
Salvarani
106​
0​
2​
BicycleBoy
96​
0​
3​
DJSprtsch
95​
0​
4​
BlueRoads
80​
33​
5​
Bminchow
73​
-1​
5​
Fivezzz
73​
-1​
7​
AlienPerformance
67​
-1​
7​
Berflamand
67​
-1​
7​
Bonimenier
67​
-1​
7​
Laarsland
67​
-1​
7​
Otoxiep87
67​
-1​


Yellow points
I mentioned yesterday that because most of these points are projections, they can be lost. Alaphilippe is still doing well, but he is now second, not first, in the GC rankings, and has fallen in the KoM rankings, so his score is still good, but 160 points lower than it was yesterday.
I show the riders who are the main gainers and losers that have been selected each day, like these:
VAN DER POEL Mathieu
758​
1​
POGACAR Tadej
203​
3​
KELDERMAN Wilco
30​
18​
KRUIJSWIJK Steven
24​
5​
QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander
22​
1​
BUCHMANN Emanuel
20​
11​
LUTSENKO Alexey
20​
6​
SOLER GIMENEZ Marc
-20​
1​
BOIVIN Guillaume
-27​
1​
GAUDU David
-71​
3​
HAIG Jack
-72​
17​
THOMAS Geraint
-88​
25​
ALAPHILIPPE Julian
-160​
3​

Team change on the day
Because a rider's score can be negative on the day, so can a team's.
1​
BlueRoads
769​
2​
AmisVelo
250​
3​
Shalgo
215​
4​
BluesInTheBottle
176​
5​
Rote_Laterne
87​
6​
Ray10
27​
7​
Mellow_Velo
14​
8​
Del1962
-3​
9​
Koronin
-17​
10​
RedheadDane
-21​
11​
ZakaFan
-22​
12​
BikeRacer33
-29​
13​
Leadbelly
-30​
14​
Search
-45​
15​
Lecko
-46​
16​
Pantani_lives
-48​
17​
Googolplex
-55​
18​
Yellow_Knight
-58​
19​
Titan31
-61​
20​
Earns1985
-63​
21​
Kazistuta
-79​
22​
Berflamand
-91​
22​
Bminchow
-91​
24​
Armchair_Cyclist
-104​
25​
Fivezzz
-110​
26​
Laarsland
-113​
27​
Bonimenier
-119​
27​
Otoxiep87
-119​
29​
Triley36
-126​
30​
AlienPerformance
-127​
31​
Comodoro
-128​
32​
Vladimir
-137​
33​
Rufs
-140​
34​
ArchieBoy
-145​
35​
DJSprtsch
-148​
36​
Northerner
-151​
37​
JonEzeitza
-170​
38​
Salvarani
-208​
39​
BicycleBoy
-235​
Collective_Wisdom
-121​

Standings
So although Salvarani lost a load of points today, he is still top of the game: daily scores can be misleading. And we can probably assume that rises of 34 places only happen in the very early stages of the game.
1​
Salvarani
1244​
0​
2​
Fivezzz
1132​
0​
3​
BlueRoads
1087​
34​
4​
Bminchow
1083​
0​
5​
Berflamand
1047​
0​
6​
AlienPerformance
998​
0​
7​
BicycleBoy
969​
-4​
8​
Comodoro
947​
-1​
9​
Laarsland
946​
-1​
10​
AmisVelo
935​
19​
11​
Bonimenier
907​
-1​
11​
Otoxiep87
907​
-1​
13​
DJSprtsch
899​
-4​
14​
Triley36
883​
-2​
15​
Rote_Laterne
865​
6​
16​
Leadbelly
855​
-1​
17​
BikeRacer33
846​
-1​
18​
Rufs
824​
-5​
19​
ZakaFan
812​
-2​
20​
BluesInTheBottle
801​
12​
21​
Pantani_lives
774​
-3​
22​
Northerner
767​
-8​
23​
Del1962
749​
0​
24​
Shalgo
734​
11​
25​
Mellow_Velo
692​
6​
26​
Armchair_Cyclist
680​
-6​
26​
Vladimir
680​
-7​
28​
Search
668​
-2​
29​
Titan31
658​
-4​
30​
Googolplex
656​
-3​
31​
Yellow_Knight
650​
-3​
32​
Lecko
635​
-2​
33​
ArchieBoy
630​
-11​
34​
JonEzeitza
558​
-10​
35​
Earns1985
534​
-2​
36​
Kazistuta
499​
-2​
37​
Ray10
439​
-1​
38​
Koronin
294​
0​
39​
RedheadDane
169​
0​
Collective_Wisdom
1087​

Velorooms has taken the lead, 801 to778

Sprint stages, like tomorrow, usually see little change other than the stage points and the yellow bonus. But tomorrow might not be a typical sprint.
 
Dec 27, 2016
258
12
3,060
Ugh. My boy Haig is down and out and Ewan blew a chance at a win with that crap riding. I need Thomas and Lopez to do something later in the race or i am done for.
 
Stage 3 Falls all over the place, and a sprint from a very small group

My last words yesterday were, "But tomorrow might not be a typical sprint," but I don't think any of us expected that.
Even the sprinters that were chosen were not the ones to score most.

MERLIER Tim
80​
0​
PHILIPSEN Jasper
50​
1​
BOUHANNI Nacer
35​
0​
BALLERINI Davide
25​
0​
COLBRELLI Sonny
15​
2​
ALAPHILIPPE Julian
10​
3​
VAN DER POEL Mathieu
5​
1​
BOL Cees
3​
9​
TURGIS Anthony
2​
0​
WALSCHEID Maximilian
1​
1​

Today
1​
Pantani_lives
50​
2=​
Rufs
15​
2=​
Search
15​
4​
Salvarani
13​
5=​
BicycleBoy
10​
5=​
DJSprtsch
10​
7​
BlueRoads
5​
8​
JonEzeitza
4​
9=​
Seven teams with Bol
3​

Standings
As yesterday, only one team breaks into the previous top ten.
1​
Salvarani
119​
0​
2​
Pantani_lives
116​
10​
3​
BicycleBoy
106​
-1​
4​
DJSprtsch
105​
-1​
5​
BlueRoads
85​
-1​
6=​
Bminchow
73​
-1​
6=​
Fivezzz
73​
-1​
8=​
Laarsland
70​
-1​
8=​
Otoxiep87
70​
-1​
10=​
AlienPerformance
67​
-3​
10=​
Berflamand
67​
-3​
10=​
Bonimenier
67​
-3​


Yellow points
Carapaz aside, few riders increased their standings (and therefore their projected points) by positive action, and more by passing those who lost position due to misfortune.
CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio
298​
4​
QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander
90​
1​
PHILIPSEN Jasper
60​
1​
COLBRELLI Sonny
31​
2​
ALAPHILIPPE Julian
10​
3​
THOMAS Geraint
10​
25​
LUTSENKO Alexey
-10​
6​
LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel
-14​
19​
KRUIJSWIJK Steven
-18​
5​
GAUDU David
-30​
3​
ARANBURU DEBA Alexander
-35​
2​
HIGUITA GARCIA Sergio Andres
-40​
15​
BILBAO LOPEZ DE ARMENTIA Pello
-59​
3​
POGACAR Tadej
-130​
3​
HAIG Jack
-262​
17​

Ray10 has Carapaz, but Higuita; Rote Laterne has Carapaz, but Higuita and Kruijswijk; and the other Carapaz teams, Archie Boy and Mellow Velo, have the gains wiped out by Haig (and Kruijswijk and Lopez in MV's case). The unexpected bonus of Quintana gaining 90 points on a sprint stage is gained by Del1962.
1​
Ray10
270​
2​
Rote_Laterne
244​
3​
Del1962
90​
4​
ArchieBoy
59​
5​
Search
45​
6​
BicycleBoy
32​
7​
Mellow_Velo
24​
8​
DJSprtsch
20​
9​
Titan31
18​
10​
Lecko
4​
11​
RedheadDane
2​
12​
BlueRoads
-7​
13​
Yellow_Knight
-27​
14​
Kazistuta
-35​
15​
BikeRacer33
-44​
16​
Salvarani
-45​
17​
Koronin
-46​
18​
Leadbelly
-53​
19​
Comodoro
-60​
19​
Vladimir
-60​
21​
Googolplex
-68​
22​
Shalgo
-116​
23​
BluesInTheBottle
-170​
24​
AmisVelo
-176​
25​
Pantani_lives
-224​
26​
JonEzeitza
-242​
27​
Rufs
-247​
28​
Earns1985
-250​
29​
Laarsland
-255​
30​
Otoxiep87
-263​
31​
Armchair_Cyclist
-264​
32​
Bonimenier
-266​
33​
Berflamand
-270​
34​
Fivezzz
-298​
35​
Northerner
-300​
36​
Triley36
-308​
37​
ZakaFan
-316​
38​
Bminchow
-324​
39​
AlienPerformance
-327​
Collective_Wisdom
-308​

Standings
Another drop in points for our leader, but still no-one can catch him.
1​
Salvarani
1199​
0​
2​
Rote_Laterne
1109​
13​
3​
BlueRoads
1080​
0​
4​
BicycleBoy
1001​
3​
5​
DJSprtsch
919​
8​
6​
Comodoro
887​
2​
7​
Del1962
839​
16​
8​
Fivezzz
834​
-6​
9​
BikeRacer33
802​
8​
9​
Leadbelly
802​
7​
11​
Berflamand
777​
-6​
12​
AmisVelo
759​
-2​
12​
Bminchow
759​
-8​
14​
Mellow_Velo
716​
11​
15​
Search
713​
13​
16​
Ray10
709​
21​
17​
Laarsland
691​
-8​
18​
ArchieBoy
689​
15​
19​
Titan31
676​
10​
20​
AlienPerformance
671​
-14​
21​
Otoxiep87
644​
-10​
22​
Bonimenier
641​
-11​
23​
Lecko
639​
9​
24​
BluesInTheBottle
631​
-4​
25​
Yellow_Knight
623​
6​
26​
Vladimir
620​
0​
27​
Shalgo
618​
-3​
28​
Googolplex
588​
2​
29​
Rufs
577​
-11​
30​
Triley36
575​
-16​
31​
Pantani_lives
550​
-10​
32​
ZakaFan
496​
-13​
33​
Northerner
467​
-11​
34​
Kazistuta
464​
2​
35​
Armchair_Cyclist
416​
-9​
36​
JonEzeitza
316​
-2​
37​
Earns1985
284​
-2​
38​
Koronin
248​
0​
39​
RedheadDane
171​
0​
Collective_Wisdom
779​

As befits my position in the game, I should give in predicting how tomorrow will go.
 
Stage 4 Heartbreak for van Moer, then Cav rolls back the years.

CAVENDISH Mark
80​
10​
BOUHANNI Nacer
50​
0​
PHILIPSEN Jasper
35​
1​
MATTHEWS Michael
25​
0​
SAGAN Peter
15​
7​
BOL Cees
10​
9​
LAPORTE Christophe
5​
1​
PEDERSEN Mads
3​
0​
VAN POPPEL Boy
2​
0​
GREIPEL André
1​
3​

Green points
Today:
Some teams seem more made for stage points like today's than trying to harvest the GC points: Earns (a new player, good to see rookies making an impression on the game) has Cavendish, Sagan and Leporte, and 5 teams have Cavendish and Bol (and two of them also have Greipel)
1​
Earns1985
100​
2=​
Googolplex
91​
2=​
Lecko
91​
4=​
Kazistuta
90​
4=​
Otoxiep87
90​
4=​
Salvarani
90​
7=​
Bonimenier
80​
7=​
Del1962
80​
7=​
Leadbelly
80​
7=​
Northerner
80​
11​
Pantani_lives
35​

Standings
1​
,Salvarani
209​
0​
2​
,Otoxiep87
160​
6​
3​
,Pantani_lives
151​
-1​
4​
,Bonimenier
147​
6​
5=​
,Googolplex
135​
16​
5=​
,Lecko
135​
16​
7​
,Earns1985
126​
26​
8=​
,Del1962
121​
15​
8=​
,Leadbelly
121​
15​
10​
,DJSprtsch
120​
-6​

Yellow points
There are changes in the Points classification, and a few swaps of GC position on countback among riders on the same time, but most of today's points are from the finish.

CAVENDISH Mark
160​
10​
PHILIPSEN Jasper
35​
1​
GAUDU David
30​
3​
LUTSENKO Alexey
20​
6​
SAGAN Peter
18​
7​
BOL Cees
10​
9​
URAN URAN Rigoberto
10​
30​
POGACAR Tadej
-14​
3​
VAN DER POEL Mathieu
-15​
1​
MOLLEMA Bauke
-20​
0​
EWAN Caleb
-23​
14​
ALAPHILIPPE Julian
-30​
3​
HIGUITA GARCIA Sergio Andres
-30​
15​

No prize for spotting the ten teams with Cavendish
1​
Leadbelly
188​
2​
Lecko
179​
3​
Otoxiep87
178​
4​
Earns1985
170​
5​
Googolplex
169​
6​
Bonimenier
168​
6​
Del1962
168​
8​
Salvarani
150​
9​
Kazistuta
127​
10​
Northerner
117​
11​
Koronin
34​
12​
Berflamand
28​
13​
ArchieBoy
20​
14​
Laarsland
18​
14​
RedheadDane
18​
16​
JonEzeitza
15​
17​
Pantani_lives
10​
17​
Vladimir
10​
19​
AlienPerformance
8​
19​
Comodoro
8​
21​
Mellow_Velo
6​
22​
Yellow_Knight
4​
23​
DJSprtsch
2​
24​
Triley36
0​
25​
Shalgo
-8​
26​
BikeRacer33
-12​
27​
Armchair_Cyclist
-13​
28​
Titan31
-15​
28​
ZakaFan
-15​
30​
Search
-16​
31​
Ray10
-18​
32​
Fivezzz
-22​
33​
BluesInTheBottle
-26​
34​
BlueRoads
-32​
35​
AmisVelo
-34​
36​
Rufs
-41​
37​
BicycleBoy
-43​
38​
Rote_Laterne
-45​
39​
Bminchow
-55​
Collective_Wisdom
-45​

Standings
That lead grows a lot today: Rote Laterne and Blue Roads hang on the the podium positions despite negative scores today.

1​
Salvarani
1349​
0​
2​
Rote_Laterne
1064​
0​
3​
BlueRoads
1048​
0​
4​
Del1962
1007​
3​
5​
Leadbelly
990​
4​
6​
BicycleBoy
958​
-2​
7​
DJSprtsch
921​
-2​
8​
Comodoro
895​
-2​
9​
Otoxiep87
822​
12​
10​
Lecko
818​
13​
11​
Fivezzz
812​
-3​
12​
Bonimenier
809​
10​
13​
Berflamand
805​
-2​
14​
BikeRacer33
790​
-5​
15​
Googolplex
757​
13​
16​
AmisVelo
725​
-4​
17​
Mellow_Velo
722​
-3​
18​
ArchieBoy
709​
0​
18​
Laarsland
709​
-1​
20​
Bminchow
704​
-8​
21​
Search
697​
-6​
22​
Ray10
691​
-6​
23​
AlienPerformance
679​
-3​
24​
Titan31
661​
-5​
25​
Vladimir
630​
1​
26​
Yellow_Knight
627​
-1​
27​
Shalgo
610​
0​
28​
BluesInTheBottle
605​
-4​
29​
Kazistuta
591​
5​
30​
Northerner
584​
3​
31​
Triley36
575​
-1​
32​
Pantani_lives
560​
-1​
33​
Rufs
536​
-4​
34​
ZakaFan
481​
-2​
35​
Earns1985
454​
2​
36​
Armchair_Cyclist
403​
-1​
37​
JonEzeitza
331​
-1​
38​
Koronin
282​
0​
39​
RedheadDane
189​
0​
Collective_Wisdom
734​

Time trials are likely to bring considerable change to the tables, and we should see some of the riders who do not have trus GC potential drop down the GC rankings a bit, so we should get closer to a realistic table. "should".
 
Stage 5 TT

It's late, I won't add much prose.
POGACAR Tadej
80​
3​
KÜNG Stefan
50​
0​
VINGEGAARD RASMUSSEN Jonas
35​
0​
VAN AERT Wout
25​
0​
VAN DER POEL Mathieu
15​
1​
ASGREEN Kasper
10​
0​
ROGLIC Primoz
5​
0​
CATTANEO Mattia
3​
1​
PORTE Richie
2​
1​
LUTSENKO Alexey
1​
6​

Green:
Today
1=​
AmisVelo
80​
1=​
BluesInTheBottle
80​
1=​
Shalgo
80​
4​
BlueRoads
15​
5=​
BikeRacer33
3​
5=​
RedheadDane
3​
7=​
Berflamand
1​
7=​
Koronin
1​
7=​
Leadbelly
1​
7=​
Triley36
1​
7=​
ZakaFan
1​

Standings
1​
Salvarani
209​
0​
2​
BluesInTheBottle
161​
13​
3​
Otoxiep87
160​
-1​
4​
Pantani_lives
151​
-1​
5​
Bonimenier
147​
-1​
6​
AmisVelo
146​
15​
7​
Shalgo
140​
15​
8​
Googolplex
135​
-3​
8​
Lecko
135​
-3​
10​
Earns1985
126​
-3​

Yellow
Lots of GC change
POGACAR Tadej
279​
3​
LUTSENKO Alexey
151​
6​
URAN URAN Rigoberto
120​
30​
VAN DER POEL Mathieu
55​
1​
THOMAS Geraint
48​
25​
PORTE Richie
31​
1​
COLBRELLI Sonny
-24​
2​
HIGUITA GARCIA Sergio Andres
-58​
15​
GAUDU David
-72​
3​
QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander
-118​
1​
ALAPHILIPPE Julian
-130​
3​
KELDERMAN Wilco
-170​
18​
CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio
-200​
4​

1​
Shalgo
392​
2​
AmisVelo
351​
3​
Triley36
281​
4​
BluesInTheBottle
219​
5​
Armchair_Cyclist
176​
6​
BlueRoads
175​
7​
JonEzeitza
166​
8​
Leadbelly
163​
9​
Koronin
152​
10​
Berflamand
147​
11​
Kazistuta
118​
11​
Northerner
118​
13​
Earns1985
114​
14​
ZakaFan
91​
15​
Rufs
76​
16​
Vladimir
36​
17​
BicycleBoy
34​
18​
RedheadDane
19​
19​
Bonimenier
18​
19​
Otoxiep87
18​
21​
Lecko
15​
22​
BikeRacer33
14​
23​
AlienPerformance
12​
24​
Laarsland
8​
25​
Titan31
0​
26​
Yellow_Knight
-2​
27​
DJSprtsch
-23​
28​
Search
-34​
29​
ArchieBoy
-42​
30​
Fivezzz
-50​
31​
Mellow_Velo
-69​
32​
Googolplex
-108​
33​
Del1962
-116​
34​
Comodoro
-120​
35​
Salvarani
-144​
36​
Pantani_lives
-167​
37​
Bminchow
-168​
38​
Ray10
-269​
39​
Rote_Laterne
-298​
Collective_Wisdom
-52​

Standings
Pogacar teams move up, but thus far they are 4th, 5th and 14th. GC hits to Alaphilippe, Gaudu and Higuita topple Salvarani from the lead.
1​
BlueRoads
1223​
2​
2​
Salvarani
1205​
-1​
3​
Leadbelly
1153​
2​
4​
AmisVelo
1076​
12​
5​
Shalgo
1002​
22​
6​
BicycleBoy
992​
0​
7​
Berflamand
952​
6​
8​
DJSprtsch
898​
-1​
9​
Del1962
891​
-5​
10​
Triley36
856​
21​
11​
Otoxiep87
840​
-2​
12​
Lecko
833​
-2​
13​
Bonimenier
827​
-1​
14​
BluesInTheBottle
824​
14​
15​
BikeRacer33
804​
-1​
16​
Comodoro
775​
-8​
17​
Rote_Laterne
766​
-15​
18​
Fivezzz
762​
-7​
19​
Laarsland
717​
-1​
20​
Kazistuta
709​
9​
21​
Northerner
702​
9​
22​
AlienPerformance
691​
1​
23​
ArchieBoy
667​
-5​
24​
Vladimir
666​
1​
25​
Search
663​
-4​
26​
Titan31
661​
-2​
27​
Mellow_Velo
653​
-10​
28​
Googolplex
649​
-13​
29​
Yellow_Knight
625​
-3​
30​
Rufs
612​
3​
31​
Armchair_Cyclist
579​
5​
32​
ZakaFan
572​
2​
33​
Earns1985
568​
2​
34​
Bminchow
536​
-14​
35​
JonEzeitza
497​
2​
36​
Koronin
434​
2​
37​
Ray10
422​
-15​
38​
Pantani_lives
393​
-6​
39​
RedheadDane
208​
0​
Collective_Wisdom
682​

That ought to be the biggest shake up for a few days.

VR 799
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Spreadsheet
 
Stage 6 Chateauxroux III, this time it's personal

It was too late for me to add much comment on the results for stage 5, today it is simply that there is little to comment on as it was the archetypal sprint stage.

CAVENDISH Mark
80​
10​
PHILIPSEN Jasper
50​
1​
BOUHANNI Nacer
35​
0​
DEMARE Arnaud
25​
0​
SAGAN Peter
15​
7​
BOL Cees
10​
9​
MERLIER Tim
5​
0​
VAN AERT Wout
3​
0​
MATTHEWS Michael
2​
0​
PEDERSEN Mads
1​
0​

Green
Points today:
1​
Earns1985
95​
Cavendish & Sagan
2=​
Googolplex/Kazistuta/Lecko/Otoxiep87/Salvarani
90​
Cavendish & Bol
7=​
Bonimenier/Del1962/Leadbelly/Northerner
80​
Cavendish
11​
Pantani_lives
50​
Philipsen
12​
JonEzeitza
25​
Sagan & Bol
13=​
BluesInTheBottle/DJSprtsch/Koronin/RedheadDane/ZakaFan
15​
Sagan
18=​
ArchieBoy/Laarsland/Ray10
10​
Bol


Standings:
Only 9 of the Cavendish teams are in this top ten: the other one is 11th. Pantani Lives, courtesy of Philipsen, is the interloper.

1​
Salvarani
299​
0​
2​
Otoxiep87
250​
1​
3​
Bonimenier
227​
2​
4​
Googolplex
225​
4​
4​
Lecko
225​
4​
6​
Earns1985
221​
4​
7​
Leadbelly
202​
4​
8​
Del1962
201​
4​
8​
Pantani_lives
201​
-4​
10​
Northerner
193​
4​

Yellow points
20 for MvdP as the yellow jersey wearer, to mitigiate his losses in the points 'classement', but hardly any GC change to effect the scores. Because Philipsen could move up in the green jersey placings and Cav couldn't (already being top), he has more of a point boost today.
PHILIPSEN Jasper
95​
1​
CAVENDISH Mark
80​
10​
SAGAN Peter
19​
7​
BOL Cees
10​
9​
MEURISSE Xandro
-5​
2​
VAN DER POEL Mathieu
-5​
1​
POGACAR Tadej
-8​
3​
ALAPHILIPPE Julian
-35​
3​



1​
Earns1985
99​
2​
Pantani_lives
97​
3​
Lecko
94​
3​
Otoxiep87
94​
5​
Googolplex
92​
5​
Kazistuta
92​
7​
Bonimenier
84​
8​
Del1962
82​
8​
Leadbelly
82​
8​
Northerner
82​
11​
Salvarani
55​
12​
JonEzeitza
29​
13​
RedheadDane
23​
14​
ZakaFan
21​
15​
Laarsland
14​
16​
Koronin
12​
17​
BluesInTheBottle
11​
17​
Ray10
11​
19​
ArchieBoy
10​
20​
Armchair_Cyclist
4​
20​
Bminchow
4​
20​
Fivezzz
4​
20​
Search
4​
20​
Triley36
4​
25​
Rufs
3​
26​
AlienPerformance
2​
26​
Berflamand
2​
26​
BikeRacer33
2​
26​
Comodoro
2​
26​
Rote_Laterne
2​
26​
Titan31
2​
26​
Vladimir
2​
33​
Mellow_Velo
-1​
34​
BlueRoads
-2​
35​
Yellow_Knight
-4​
36​
AmisVelo
-6​
37​
Shalgo
-13​
38​
DJSprtsch
-15​
39​
BicycleBoy
-35​
Collective_Wisdom
2​

Standings
Salvarani was not out of the lead for long:
1​
Salvarani
1260​
1​
2​
Leadbelly
1235​
1​
3​
BlueRoads
1221​
-2​
4​
AmisVelo
1070​
0​
5​
Shalgo
989​
0​
6​
Del1962
973​
3​
7​
BicycleBoy
957​
-1​
8​
Berflamand
954​
-1​
9​
Otoxiep87
934​
2​
10​
Lecko
927​
2​
11​
Bonimenier
911​
2​
12​
DJSprtsch
883​
-4​
13​
Triley36
860​
-3​
14​
BluesInTheBottle
835​
0​
15​
BikeRacer33
806​
0​
16​
Kazistuta
801​
4​
17​
Northerner
784​
4​
18​
Comodoro
777​
-2​
19​
Rote_Laterne
768​
-2​
20​
Fivezzz
766​
-2​
21​
Googolplex
741​
7​
22​
Laarsland
731​
-3​
23​
AlienPerformance
693​
-1​
24​
ArchieBoy
677​
-1​
25​
Vladimir
668​
-1​
26​
Earns1985
667​
7​
26​
Search
667​
-1​
28​
Titan31
663​
-2​
29​
Mellow_Velo
652​
-2​
30​
Yellow_Knight
621​
-1​
31​
Rufs
615​
-1​
32​
ZakaFan
593​
0​
33​
Armchair_Cyclist
583​
-2​
34​
Bminchow
540​
0​
35​
JonEzeitza
526​
0​
36​
Pantani_lives
490​
2​
37​
Koronin
446​
-1​
38​
Ray10
433​
-1​
39​
RedheadDane
231​
0​
Collective_Wisdom
684​
 
Stage 7 The Morvans might be more interesting than the Alps or Pyrenees

But not for the stage points
MOHORIC Matej
80​
1​
STUYVEN Jasper
50​
0​
CORT NIELSEN Magnus
35​
1​
VAN DER POEL Mathieu
25​
1​
ASGREEN Kasper
15​
0​
BONNAMOUR Franck
10​
0​
KONRAD Patrick
5​
1​
VAN AERT Wout
3​
0​
VAN MOER Brent
2​
0​
GODON Dorian
1​
0​

1​
Lecko
80​
2​
BikeRacer33
35​
3​
BlueRoads
25​
4​
DJSprtsch
5​
Of these, only Lecko is in the top 10 in the Green points classification, and he moves from joint 4th to top, removing Salvarani who has been there since stage 1.

Yellow points
Although there was very little of game relevance in the stage result, it has given the GC a real shake-up, such that among the top 23 riders this morning, only MvdP is in the same position this evening.
MOHORIC Matej
437​
1​
VAN DER POEL Mathieu
70​
1​
CORT NIELSEN Magnus
48​
1​
SKUJINS Toms
29​
1​
MEURISSE Xandro
12​
2​
KELDERMAN Wilco
-10​
18​
THOMAS Geraint
-10​
25​
GAUDU David
-11​
3​
PHILIPSEN Jasper
-15​
1​
COLBRELLI Sonny
-35​
2​
CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio
-50​
4​
QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander
-62​
1​
URAN URAN Rigoberto
-70​
30​
LUTSENKO Alexey
-90​
6​
ALAPHILIPPE Julian
-115​
3​
POGACAR Tadej
-168​
3​

Many of those gains and losses will be reversed over the weekend, but not, I suspect, all of them.


Only three scores in the black, of which one has a huge score and one is a random selection.
1​
Lecko
355​
2​
BlueRoads
21​
3​
RedheadDane
7​
4​
Bminchow
-13​
5​
Googolplex
-14​
6​
Pantani_lives
-17​
7​
Ray10
-49​
8​
ZakaFan
-54​
9​
BikeRacer33
-61​
10​
Armchair_Cyclist
-64​
11​
Earns1985
-66​
12​
Bonimenier
-76​
12​
Laarsland
-76​
12​
Otoxiep87
-76​
15​
Kazistuta
-77​
15​
Northerner
-77​
17​
JonEzeitza
-80​
18​
Fivezzz
-81​
19​
Koronin
-82​
20​
AlienPerformance
-84​
20​
Titan31
-84​
20​
Yellow_Knight
-84​
23​
Vladimir
-88​
24​
Mellow_Velo
-92​
25​
Comodoro
-100​
26​
Search
-113​
27​
Rufs
-120​
28​
ArchieBoy
-124​
29​
Rote_Laterne
-127​
30​
Del1962
-140​
31​
Triley36
-161​
32​
Berflamand
-172​
32​
Leadbelly
-172​
34​
BluesInTheBottle
-173​
35​
DJSprtsch
-178​
36​
BicycleBoy
-191​
37​
Salvarani
-197​
38​
Shalgo
-226​
39​
AmisVelo
-235​
Collective_Wisdom
-87​


Standings
The teams that suffered the greatest losses today were largely those at the top of the table, which is why such a leap to the top became possible.
1​
Lecko
1282​
9​
2​
BlueRoads
1242​
1​
3​
Leadbelly
1063​
-1​
3​
Salvarani
1063​
-2​
5​
Otoxiep87
858​
4​
6​
AmisVelo
835​
-2​
6​
Bonimenier
835​
5​
8​
Del1962
833​
-2​
9​
Berflamand
782​
-1​
10​
BicycleBoy
766​
-3​
11​
Shalgo
763​
-6​
12​
BikeRacer33
745​
3​
13​
Googolplex
727​
8​
14​
Kazistuta
724​
2​
15​
Northerner
707​
2​
16​
DJSprtsch
705​
-4​
17​
Triley36
699​
-4​
18​
Fivezzz
685​
2​
19​
Comodoro
677​
-1​
20​
BluesInTheBottle
662​
-6​
21​
Laarsland
655​
1​
22​
Rote_Laterne
641​
-3​
23​
AlienPerformance
609​
0​
24​
Earns1985
601​
2​
25​
Vladimir
580​
0​
26​
Titan31
579​
2​
27​
Mellow_Velo
560​
2​
28​
Search
554​
-2​
29​
ArchieBoy
553​
-5​
30​
ZakaFan
539​
2​
31​
Yellow_Knight
537​
-1​
32​
Bminchow
527​
2​
33​
Armchair_Cyclist
519​
0​
34​
Rufs
495​
-3​
35​
Pantani_lives
473​
1​
36​
JonEzeitza
446​
-1​
37​
Ray10
384​
1​
38​
Koronin
364​
-1​
39​
RedheadDane
238​
0​
Collective_Wisdom
597​
 
Stage 8 Well that looks pretty decisive

TEUNS Dylan
80​
0​
IZAGIRRE INSAUSTI Ion
50​
0​
WOODS Michael
35​
1​
POGACAR Tadej
25​
3​
POELS Wout
15​
1​
YATES Simon
10​
1​
PARET-PEINTRE Aurélien
5​
0​
MARTIN Guillaume
3​
0​
CATTANEO Mattia
2​
1​
VINGEGAARD RASMUSSEN Jonas
1​
0​

1​
Ray10
35​
2=​
AmisVelo/BluesInTheBottle/Shalgo
25​
5​
DJSprtsch
15​
6​
Yellow_Knight
10​
7​
RedheadDane
2​

BitB moves up from 12th to joint 8th, the rest of today's scorers are fairly low in the Green classification.


Yellow points
You thought the point changes were big yesterday?

POGACAR Tadej
369​
3​
LUTSENKO Alexey
180​
6​
POELS Wout
160​
1​
URAN URAN Rigoberto
160​
30​
CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio
130​
4​
KELDERMAN Wilco
120​
18​
WOODS Michael
108​
1​
GAUDU David
103​
3​
BILBAO LOPEZ DE ARMENTIA Pello
95​
3​
YATES Simon
72​
1​
O'CONNOR Ben
59​
10​
CATTANEO Mattia
50​
1​
QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander
34​
1​
BUCHMANN Emanuel
-26​
11​
HAMILTON Lucas
-27​
10​
HIGUITA GARCIA Sergio Andres
-44​
15​
SKUJINS Toms
-58​
1​
THOMAS Geraint
-94​
25​
ALAPHILIPPE Julian
-179​
3​
MOHORIC Matej
-333​
1​
VAN DER POEL Mathieu
-587​
1​


1​
Shalgo
514​
Pogacar and Uran but Hamilton
2​
Leadbelly
494​
Lutsenko/Uran/Kelderman/Bilbao and O'Connor but Buchmann and Thomas
3​
AmisVelo
459​
Pogacar and Uran but Buchmann and Higuita
4​
Rote_Laterne
340​
Uran/Crapaz/Kelderman but Buchmann and Higuita
5​
Berflamand
337​
Lutsenko/Uran/Kelderman but Hamilton and Thomas
6​
BluesInTheBottle
322​
Pogacar but Higuita
7​
Comodoro
304​
Uran/Kelderman/Gaudu/O'Connor but Higuita and Thomas
8​
AlienPerformance
279​
9​
Triley36
261​
10​
Yellow_Knight
258​
11​
Bonimenier
243​
11​
Otoxiep87
243​
13​
Mellow_Velo
230​
14​
Titan31
218​
15​
Laarsland
216​
15​
Search
216​
17​
BikeRacer33
204​
18​
ArchieBoy
196​
19​
Del1962
192​
20​
Ray10
177​
21​
Fivezzz
172​
22​
Koronin
169​
23​
DJSprtsch
138​
24​
Earns1985
131​
25​
Googolplex
119​
26​
Pantani_lives
108​
27​
RedheadDane
106​
28​
Vladimir
96​
29​
JonEzeitza
63​
30​
ZakaFan
47​
31​
Kazistuta
20​
31​
Northerner
20​
33​
Salvarani
14​
34​
Armchair_Cyclist
11​
35​
Rufs
2​
36​
Bminchow
-47​
37​
BicycleBoy
-139​
38​
Lecko
-149​
39​
BlueRoads
-406​
Collective_Wisdom
140​


Standings
The teams who were first and second this morning were the last two in the daily scores,opening the door for Leadbelly to step up from third to take the lead with what looks like a very healthy margin. But he doesn't have Pogacar, and the other virtual podium teams do.
1​
Leadbelly
1557​
2​
2​
AmisVelo
1294​
4​
3​
Shalgo
1277​
8​
4​
Lecko
1133​
-3​
5​
Berflamand
1119​
4​
6​
Otoxiep87
1101​
-1​
7​
Bonimenier
1078​
-1​
8​
Salvarani
1077​
-5​
9​
Del1962
1025​
-1​
10​
BluesInTheBottle
984​
10​
11​
Comodoro
981​
8​
11​
Rote_Laterne
981​
11​
13​
Triley36
960​
4​
14​
BikeRacer33
949​
-2​
15​
AlienPerformance
888​
8​
16​
Laarsland
871​
5​
17​
Fivezzz
857​
1​
18​
Googolplex
846​
-5​
19​
DJSprtsch
843​
-3​
20​
BlueRoads
836​
-18​
21​
Titan31
797​
5​
22​
Yellow_Knight
795​
9​
23​
Mellow_Velo
790​
4​
24​
Search
770​
4​
25​
ArchieBoy
749​
4​
26​
Kazistuta
744​
-12​
27​
Earns1985
732​
-3​
28​
Northerner
727​
-13​
29​
Vladimir
676​
-4​
30​
BicycleBoy
627​
-20​
31​
ZakaFan
586​
-1​
32​
Pantani_lives
581​
3​
33​
Ray10
561​
4​
34​
Koronin
533​
4​
35​
Armchair_Cyclist
530​
-2​
36​
JonEzeitza
509​
0​
37​
Rufs
497​
-3​
38​
Bminchow
480​
-6​
39​
RedheadDane
344​
0​
Collective_Wisdom
737​

So, can a team of balanced spends with a sprinter and a bunch of top five contenders see off those with the very expensive winner and, essentially, cheap makeweights? We will see as the yellow jersey bonus points pile up. There again, the fall down the GC table that must be expected from Van Aert cannot benefit Pogacar's score, and it can boost other riders'.
 

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