2021 World Championships in Flanders - Time Trials

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OK, it seems like I missed Bjerg. It was the closest I got to Bjerg, I hope that's good enough for most on here :cool:
15Jan Tratnik (Slovenia)0:02:04


14Rémi Cavagna (France)0:01:59



13Nelson Oliveira (Portugal)0:01:55



12Jos van Emden (Netherlands)



11Max Walscheid (Germany)0:01:54



10Tadej Pogačar (Slovenia)0:01:53

 
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As a total non-expert, non-professional aka "I probably have no idea what I'm talking about" person merely watching all these races on my TV, I've reached the conclusion in recent TT's that Stefan Kung has it all wrong. Namely the gearing he uses, i.e. he's spinning his legs like he's Chris Froome on the Ventoux when all the other top guys are pulling big gears & putting the power down.

For such a tall, big guy, it looks wrong. Especially on such a flat long TT.
 
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Or they just never adjust it. I know that in tennis they overestimate hight a lot by measuring in inches then rounding up. Murray confirmed his height 8 years ago and the ATP site still has this wrong, but considering UCI regulations mean the height matters for what bike setups are allowed they should take a lot better care in this.
I suppose if it is in the regulations, the UCI will measure the riders themselves and not take values list on the web at face value right? (at least I hope).


As a total non-expert, non-professional aka "I probably have no idea what I'm talking about" person merely watching all these races on my TV, I've reached the conclusion in recent TT's that Stefan Kung has it all wrong. Namely the gearing he uses, i.e. he's spinning his legs like he's Chris Froome on the Ventoux when all the other top guys are pulling big gears & putting the power down.

For such a tall, big guy, it looks wrong. Especially on such a flat long TT.
Not sure, seems to work well for other riders. Maybe it is just him not really handling the longer distance well. Or maybe he is just not good into headwind? (I saw some posts earlier stating the 2nd part contained more headwind)

But i do agree that we saw lots of riders push a much bigger gear than usual in the last 10K.
 
I just don't generally think commentators should be expected to always notice details like that.
I do. The camera zoomed in on the bike frame for ten seconds where you could see that there was no bottle. Seconds after there was a replay where we saw the bottle dropping. I expect a commentator to observe that and at least say something about it. A bit later, there was a similar situation with Van Aert's backwheel sliding during a left turn. There was a replay showing it. The commentator didn't mention it. It's so bad. (And there is absolutely no indication that the tragic accicent yesterday had anything to do with this.)
 
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I do. The camera zoomed in on the bike frame for ten seconds where you could see that there was no bottle. Seconds after there was a replay where we saw the bottle dropping. I expect a commentator to observe that and at least say something about it. A bit later, there was a similar situation with Van Aert's backwheel sliding during a left turn. There was a replay showing it. The commentator didn't mention it. It's so bad. (And there is absolutely no indication that the tragic accicent yesterday had anything to do with this.)
I expect commentators to know who the riders are, not to observe tiny details like a bottle dropping.
 
I do. The camera zoomed in on the bike frame for ten seconds where you could see that there was no bottle. Seconds after there was a replay where we saw the bottle dropping. I expect a commentator to observe that and at least say something about it. A bit later, there was a similar situation with Van Aert's backwheel sliding during a left turn. There was a replay showing it. The commentator didn't mention it. It's so bad. (And there is absolutely no indication that the tragic accicent yesterday had anything to do with this.)
I honestly don't expect a commentator to keep his eyes on the screen the entire time on a TT (where you have to keep yourself up to date with off-screen time splits) the day after having lost a dear colleague. Also, usually there are two or three sets of eyes to catch a bit of everything.
 
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(And there is absolutely no indication that the tragic accicent yesterday had anything to do with this.)
Wait, what? Lack of concentration is like a text book example on how people react in situations like that. The commentator was clearly affected by CAS' passing the day before - he even said so himself at the very beginning - and for obvious reasons he didn't have time to prepare himself for the broadcast.
 
Or they just never adjust it. I know that in tennis they overestimate hight a lot by measuring in inches then rounding up. Murray confirmed his height 8 years ago and the ATP site still has this wrong, but considering UCI regulations mean the height matters for what bike setups are allowed they should take a lot better care in this.
Yes, they should undoubtedly have settling Internet forum spats as a mandate. :tearsofjoy:
 
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Wait, what? Lack of concentration is like a text book example on how people react in situations like that. The commentator was clearly affected by CAS' passing the day before - he even said so himself at the very beginning - and for obvious reasons he didn't have time to prepare himself for the broadcast.
Bit hard to prepare for [Rider X]'s bottle dropping at Kilometer [Y] anyway.
But, honestly, even Chris Anker hadn't passed away, and the originally scheduled guys had been commentating, I still wouldn't have expected them to notice.
 
There might be other riders, who could have deserved one beer, but these are my final ratings for tomorrow.

Men's U23

:beermug::beermug::beermug: Price-Pejtersen. Plapp
:beermug::beercheers: Wærenskjold, Vermeersch
:beermug::beermug: Hoole, Van Dijke, Hessmann, Fisher-Black
:beermug: Ballerstedt, Baroncini, García Pierna, Balmer, Azparren, Vauquelin, Healy

Women's ITT

:beermug::beermug::beermug: Van Vleuten, Reusser
:beermug::beercheers: Van Dijk
:beermug::beermug: Brennauer, Neben, Klein
:beermug: Markus, Guazzini, Norsgaard, Thomas, Kiesenhofer, Kononenko, Cordon-Ragot/Labouse, Lowden
 
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Ganna just a born TT rider... Wout so powerful - just such a complete rider.

Remco was just great once again. 60 kgs of pure power. It is a pleasure to watch him. You can see how he likes what he does. For me, Remco‘s was the performance of the day.

Slowly, bit by bit, I start to believe he (Remco) has his pelvis issue behind him. I actually feared the worst after Lombardia, and in late winter.

Can‘t wait to see WVA and Remco in the WC RR...
 
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Why? Sure, most of the time commentators probably do notice stuff like that. But if they don't, no big deal. Certainly nothing to call someone horrible at their job over.
Unlike the young/old situation which on this forum has a universally agreed upon clear-cut limit (30 years), I think there are different degrees to which one can judge a commentator. And even if he misses a few things I would have expected him to notice, he isn't necessarily "horrible at his job".

I remember a few times during the Olympics where I was really exasperated by the commentators of the track and field events. There was one race where a runner evidently lost a shoe, which was clear to see from 1) his feet, 2) the fact that they showed the shoe being lost several times and 3) the fact that they filmed a shoe lying on the track. It still never occurred to the commentators what had happened, and when the runner in question suddenly appeared in the finale even if he didn't qualify on time (he had gotten a dispensation) there was no explanation. If that was the only mistake they did, I wouldn't call them "horrible at their jobs", just not particularly vigilant. Yet, Liniger has tons of other flaws that do make him worthy of such a description.
 
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There might be other riders, who could have deserved one beer, but these are my final ratings for tomorrow.

Men's U23

:beermug::beermug::beermug: Price-Pejtersen. Plapp
:beercheers: Wærenskjold, Vermeersch
:beermug::beermug: Hoole, Van Dijke, Hessmann, Fisher-Black
:beermug: Ballerstedt, Baroncini, García Pierna, Balmer, Azparren, Vauquelin, Healy

Women's ITT

:beermug::beermug::beermug: Van Vleuten, Reusser
:beercheers: Van Dijk
:beermug::beermug: Brennauer, Neben, Klein
:beermug: Markus, Guazzini, Norsgaard, Thomas, Kiesenhofer, Kononenko, Cordon-Ragot/Labouse, Lowden
Is it best to get two beers or a double-beer?
 
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